Interesting stats - Breeze v Mariners

[striker]

According to this morning's Australian...... we'll get Breeze in the playoffs on 17th Feb.  unless, we win against the Jets on the 10th. and qualify.

Shields is the ref v Jets on the 10th and he'll ref the grand-finale as well.

 

[skilbeck]

Arent there enough Breeze threads floating around this forum. Our record against Newcastle with Breeze reffing wont be challenged again until next season at least

 

[Jaza_SFC]

I love the way this forum has x number of threads on Matthew Breeze but only one small portion of a thread on the way Pondeljak, Kwanik and Hutchinson consistently went walkabout and left Jedinak out to dry in midfield last Sunday.

 

[marinermick]

I love the way this forum has x number of threads on Matthew Breeze but only one small portion of a thread on the way Pondeljak, Kwanik and Hutchinson consistently went walkabout and left Jedinak out to dry in midfield last Sunday.

well jaza, that is because if the ref was fair we would have drawn on sunday

the rest is just academic

 

[Ursus]

Speaking of academic. I suggest that someone get one with appropriate statistical skills to analyse this data set.
I would bet that while at first glance the stats look interesting you will find they are of no significance.

Beware of "Grassy Knolls" :

 

[Deej]

I love the way this forum has x number of threads on Matthew Breeze but only one small portion of a thread on the way Pondeljak, Kwanik and Hutchinson consistently went walkabout and left Jedinak out to dry in midfield last Sunday.

to be fair it was only really the second half that our midfield started to play walk about........Lawrie had little options down the left side, Hutch had a niggling injury so when he went off only really Kwassy was an option to go down there, and tbh I think Kwas had a poor second half and should have come off based on form.  Owens was on the bench, he's been having injury problems, and then of course Gumps came on but did sweet FA.......what we need is a creative midfielder, I love Tommy but he's not consistent enough, I would love to see Lawrie sign someone is this position for V4 (as well as a left sided player)

The week off will do our boys some good, I just hope Aloisi comes through the socceroos game ok, 2 goals is achieveable (with a bit of luck and determination) but if we conceed it's preliminary final time at Bluetongue!

 

[neverwozza]

what are his stats like for Sydney FC?

well having a quick look on the website shows some interesting figures.

When Breeze has been ref for a Sydney game:

Won - 6
Drawn - 2
Lost - 2
Yellow cards for Sydney - 20
Yellow cards for opposition - 22
Red cards for Sydney - 1
Red cards for opposition - 4
Injury time goals for Sydney - 3 lol (vs us, Perth and Newcastle)

Yellow card count could be out slightly as it was only a quick look

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2004/s1253917.htm

Lowy pressuring a NSW public servant to further his interests? I don't think he is capable (heavy sarcasm).

 

[striker]

Speaking of academic. I suggest that someone get one with appropriate statistical skills to analyse this data set.
I would bet that while at first glance the stats look interesting you will find they are of no significance.

Mate..one doesn't have t be statistically significant to show bias or act corruptly!... there was trend identified that points to Breeze's performance against the mariners.....

 

[FFC Mariner]

I love the way this forum has x number of threads on Matthew Breeze but only one small portion of a thread on the way Pondeljak, Kwanik and Hutchinson consistently went walkabout and left Jedinak out to dry in midfield last Sunday.

The main culprit was Kwassie dropping off that slimy piece of shite Holland and allowing him to hooooooooooooooooooooooof it up to that bloke who likes to fondle mens balls.

 

[Deej]

Referees to miss key fixtures
By Ray Gatt
January 31, 2008 THE A-League finals series, already embroiled in controversy over match officials, has suffered another blow with the revelation that Australia's leading referees will be unavailable for two of the biggest games of the season.

FIFA-badged Mark Shield and Matthew Breeze will be missing during one of the most critical stages of the championship because they are required to attend a compulsory course for prospective 2010 World Cup referees, in the Canary Islands, from February 10 to 18.

One or the other will most likely officiate in the return leg of the minor semi-final between Queensland Roar and Sydney FC at Suncorp Stadium on February 8, but neither will be available for the second leg of the major semi-final between Central Coast and Newcastle at Bluetongue Stadium two days later.

And they won't return in time for the February 17 preliminary final to decide the second team to play in the grand final.

It will be the second time in three weeks that Shield and Breeze, rated the top two whistleblowers in the country, have been forced to miss A-League duties.

They were unavailable for the final round of the season, when four teams were locked on 31 points and chasing the minor premiership and/or a spot in the top two, as they were required to attend an Asian Football Confederation referees' course.

In their absence, Football Federation Australia was forced to use several referees with limited experience for two of the vital matches in round 21.

New Zealand's Michael Hester was called in to take charge of the Jets-Perth match, in which Glory's Nick Rizzo was sent off in the first half in what was regarded a dubious decision. It was only Hester's second match out in the centre this season.

Victorian Kevin Docherty, who had been used as a fourth official a number of times, controlled the Central Coast-Wellington match, his only appearance with the whistle this season.

FFA's reliance on Shield and Breeze during the play-offs is best illustrated by the fact that, between them, they have been in charge of 10 of the 14 finals matches played in the three seasons of the A-League.

Shield is in line to control his third grand final in succession, while Breeze has had charge of the only two preliminary finals to date.

The news of Shield and Breeze being absent for a portion of the play-offs comes a day after the Mariners revealed plans to discuss with FFA issues arising from last week's controversial 2-0 loss to Newcastle - and their poor record under Breeze.

The Mariners have not won a game in their last eight while Breeze has been in control, and they have an overall record of two wins in 12 matches under him. The club's record with Shield in charge is only marginally better - four wins in 16 matches.

It will be interesting to see who will be appointed to the Mariners-Jets match.

Peter Green, who has refereed in 15 of the 21 regular season games, third most behind Shield and Breeze, and has had some A-League finals experience logically would be next in line. That would not bother the Mariners as Central Coast have won four and drawn one of their past five matches under him.

 

[Deej]

Good news - NO BREEZE!

 

[skilbeck]

It is. He was the only thing IMO standing in the way of us and the champions plate

 

[Chimmi]

Hmm I wonder when the FFA knew about this?

I thought the only reason we got Breeze last week is so both refs would swap over and we would have the No.1 ref for the second leg of the Semi...

If they knew about it why did they give us the No.2?

Well looks like we are better off now anyway - and to Qld players...now is the time to buy a lotto ticket .

 

[marconigirl]

I bet Sydney will be shitting themselves if/when Breeze lets them win on the 8th and they have to play 'fairly' on the 17th.. (not having Breeze to ref..)

 

[dibo]

Speaking of academic. I suggest that someone get one with appropriate statistical skills to analyse this data set.
I would bet that while at first glance the stats look interesting you will find they are of no significance.

Beware of "Grassy Knolls" :

grassy knolls and tinfoil hats notwitstanding, no statistical test on the samples we're talking about would yield significant results. the sample sizes are simply too small.

there is also a non-random distribution of referees - breeze and shield get the big games (i.e. sydney and melbourne) pretty much every week, so there is a skew in the data that would prevent any smaller bias effects from being apparent not to mention that the form of teams is variable and that will further obscure any bias effect.

we're not talking about double blind medical trials here though, just because it's not testable to .01 significance doesn't mean there's not a systematic problem here.

 

[gull]

Best news I've heard in a long time. Now we can still win the seat!

 

[Tassiemariner]

Peter Green FTW!!!!!!!!

 

[SNOWMARINER]

Is it for real that Sheilds and Breeze will miss the 10th and the 17th (if we don't get to the GF directly). It's not a sick joke is it?

God, that would having me enter the stadium with a spring in the step. Hopefully that F**wit linesman gets a much needed rest to.

As another poster said did'nt the FFA make a point of publiclly stating early in the season that if in doubt with a line call offside the striker gets the benifit of the doubt when it results in a goal?

I hope they don't choose to reafirm that with Mr always on the brink of offside Griffiths being awarded the goal we should have had last week.

 

[Ursus]

Speaking of academic. I suggest that someone get one with appropriate statistical skills to analyse this data set.
I would bet that while at first glance the stats look interesting you will find they are of no significance.

Beware of "Grassy Knolls" :

grassy knolls and tinfoil hats notwitstanding, no statistical test on the samples we're talking about would yield significant results. the sample sizes are simply too small.

there is also a non-random distribution of referees - breeze and shield get the big games (i.e. sydney and melbourne) pretty much every week, so there is a skew in the data that would prevent any smaller bias effects from being apparent not to mention that the form of teams is variable and that will further obscure any bias effect.

Exactly.

 

[Ursus]

Speaking of academic. I suggest that someone get one with appropriate statistical skills to analyse this data set.
I would bet that while at first glance the stats look interesting you will find they are of no significance.

Beware of "Grassy Knolls" :

we're not talking about double blind medical trials here though, just because it's not testable to .01 significance doesn't mean there's not a systematic problem here.

Nor does it indicate that there is a problem.

Cup of tea, a bex and a good lie down prescribed for all.