Interesting stats - Breeze v Mariners

[striker]

Team                        P  W  D  L  F  A  GD  Pts
Central Coast Mariners FC 21 10 4 7 30 25 5 34

Mick..... according to your stats we lost 8 games and the table for the last season above shows 7 losses. + 1-  I guess last night's game. 

Does that mean that the mariners only lost when Breeze and Shields are in charge? Unreal!

 

[Rubbernose]

It kinda goes against my grain to say this but f**k it, I've seen enough and I'm gonna have a dummy spit and call it; Breeze is a shitc**t and a f**ken cheat who, of late at least, has an obvious bias against the Mariners.

People who reckon he did alright last night, I dunno what game they were watching because I thought it was once again a dead set bloody farce, as arguably subtle as it may have been.

The Jets were flying in everywhere with chops, bumps, hacks and late tackles - particularly on Aloisi - in the first half of that game and I could see the Mariners cracking the shits about it. He let at least two clear yellow cards go but hey, at least pulled up about 6 free kicks out of 10. Then I think it was Pondeljak puts in a fairly innocuous challenge and he blows his stupid farken whistle multiple times and runs over wagging his little finger saying, none of that, and Tommy is looking at him like WTF you shit c**t, you're chastising me after the plethora of shit challenges you've just let go from Newcastle? It was a dead set farce.

He's unbelievably inconsistent, and we aint the only one he's screwed over, but I'm starting to get bloody suss about it to be honest. Those stats don't surprise me at all, and I reckon they'd be FAR worse if you just isolated them to the last 3 games.

I'm sitting there with my mate and I'm saying can you believe the Jets haven't copped a yellow card yet and he says no but I bet you anything the Mariners get the first card and the worst card count, despite what we've seen. Which is exactly what happened, he didn't even give out a yellow for kicking someone in the head in the penalty area, but he gave Aloisi a yellow, inexplicably the first of the game, obviously for being quite rightly none too happy about that friggen joke of a no goal call in the 46th minute.

There's no farken way in the world that was offside to anyone with 2 working eyeballs, there's no farken way in the world the Jets were only 2 yellows to our FOUR (and we were 19 fouls to their 13, GET FARKED), and there's no farken way the Jets deserved to win that game by 2 goals like they did.

I'm a bit sore about the whole thing to be honest, I'm not handling that loss very well at all. I watched the replay and broke my remote by pegging it at the farking wall. Everyone and everything can go and get f**ked, arrrrrrghh.

 

[marinermick]

Team                        P  W  D  L  F  A  GD  Pts
Central Coast Mariners FC 21 10 4 7 30 25 5 34

Mick..... according to your stats we lost 8 games and the table for the last season above shows 7 losses. + 1-  I guess last night's game. 

Does that mean that the mariners only lost when Breeze and Shields are in charge? Unreal!

you may well be right and when i get some more time will check the facts again with them combined

 

[striker]

Team                        P  W  D  L  F  A  GD  Pts
Central Coast Mariners FC 21 10 4 7 30 25 5 34

Mick..... according to your stats we lost 8 games and the table for the last season above shows 7 losses. + 1-  I guess last night's game. 

Does that mean that the mariners only lost when Breeze and Shields are in charge? Unreal!

you may well be right and when i get some more time will check the facts again with them combined

From where do you get the stats?  or do you flick thu all the match reports (that's the long way)

 

[Pete]

When CCM vs NEW at Bluetongue Stadium in the World Club Championship Qualifier Mrdja broke Durante's leg, 3 years later and Talay does same thing to Heff, both only got yellow cards.

WHY THE f**k IS BREAKIN A GUY'S LEG ONLY A YELLOW CARD?

because both players were just unlucky - neither tackle was worthy of a red

Disagree Mick, from we stood and the Fox coverage, Talay's was a swinging scythe of a reckless and dangerous tackle - very worthy of a red!

Having said that - the actual harm to a player has nothing to do with getting a card (of whatever colour). It is about how it breaches the laws of the game. You could technically get a red card without actually touching the player if the tackle under the rules was bad enough.

And remember, a player can end up with a broken leg even if the tackle is legal. Sometimes, bad luck just happens.

 

[marinermick]

Team                        P  W  D  L  F  A  GD  Pts
Central Coast Mariners FC 21 10 4 7 30 25 5 34

Mick..... according to your stats we lost 8 games and the table for the last season above shows 7 losses. + 1-  I guess last night's game. 

Does that mean that the mariners only lost when Breeze and Shields are in charge? Unreal!

you may well be right and when i get some more time will check the facts again with them combined

From where do you get the stats?   or do you flick thu all the match reports (that's the long way)

added up the mtach stats from the a-league website

 

[midfielder]

Marinermick these are stats for the last eight games Matthew Breeze has refereed the Mariners as per your various summaries:

8 games - 0 wins, 2 draws, 6 losses

Yellow card count - Mariners 20, opposition 12
Red card count - Mariners 3, opposition 0
Foul count - Mariners 132, opposition 107

Wife picked eight random numbers between 1 and 21 to analyse the difference:

8 games - 4 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses

Red card count - Mariners 3, opposition 2
Yellow card count - Mariners 15, opposition 23
Foul count - Mariners 128, opposition 132

Referee who took the Mariners the second most number of times.

That is be mark shield (last four games against Melbourne as well!):

8 games, 2 wins, 2 draws, 4 losses

Red cards: Mariners 2, opposition 2
Yellow cards: Mariners 24, opposition 18
Foul count: Mariners 109, opposition 112

VERY interesting and shows IMO a bias against the Mariners.

Marinermick RU sure of these stats because as stirker 9 says we never win with Breeze, 50 50 with shield, and win with everyone else.

 

[marinermick]

Marinermick RU sure of these stats because as stirker 9 says we never win with Breeze, 50 50 with shield, and win with everyone else.

add them up yourself

these are taken over two seasons

 

[Dr Nick]

well the people that count think its a problem

Mariners to blow whistle on ref
By Ray Gatt
January 30, 2008 CENTRAL COAST officials will make a point of the club's poor record under referee Matthew Breeze when they ask for a "please explain" in the wake of the controversial loss to Newcastle Jets in the first leg of the major semi-final last Sunday.

While the club continued to maintain a cautious stance, it is understood the Mariners will soon send a letter to Football Federation Australia seeking clarification on a number of issues arising from their 2-0 defeat at EnergyAustralia Stadium.

The players and coaching staff remain upset that John Aloisi had what looked to be a legitimate goal disallowed in the first half after assistant referee Jason Power ruled him offside.

The goal would have levelled the match at 1-1.

It is believed that decision won't be the main complaint as the Mariners try to keep their championship hopes alive.

It is understood the club will go in hard in pointing out some startling statistics that show the Mariners have not won a game under Breeze in their past eight matches, five of them this season.

In the 12 matches Breeze has officiated with the Mariners since the A-League kicked off three seasons ago, the Central Coast has managed just two wins and three draws with seven defeats.

Not surprisingly, Central Coast officials, wary of upsetting FFA and earning a charge for bringing the game into disrepute, refuse to be drawn publicly on the matter.

Coach Lawrie McKinna would not comment specifically about Breeze's performance last Sunday, or the match official's record involving the Central Coast.

"We have ways of dealing with these situations," McKinna said.

"And that will be going through the proper channels by forwarding a letter to the FFA.

"We want to discuss a number of issues regarding the refereeing and I'll just leave it at that."

Asked if Breeze's record in Mariners' matches would be brought up, McKinna bluntly replied: "No comment."

Asked if he could put a finger on why his team has such a poor record under him he again replied: "No comment."

McKinna did admit he wanted matters from Sunday's loss cleared up as quickly as possible "so everyone can move on".

Assistant referee Power could also be put under scrutiny for his performance.

Questions are being asked as to why he was appointed to one of the biggest matches of the season with just six regular season matches under his belt, while more experienced officials were ignored.

Power, who was on the line for the Socceroos-Paraguay match at Suncorp Stadium in October, 2006, has officiated in 19 A-League matches over three seasons and is a FIFA-sanctioned assistant referee.

Interestingly, the Central Coast's record under Australia's No1 rated referee Mark Shield is not much better than under Breeze, with the club recording just four wins in 16 matches.

By contrast, the Mariners have enjoyed their best results under referee Peter Green, winning five games, including all four this season, and drawing once in the past two seasons.

Shield, who is expected to be handed next month's grand final for the third season in succession, is clearly rated Australia's best man-in-the-middle and Breeze is rated No2.

They are again expected to officiate the return legs of the Sydney-Queensland minor semi-final and Mariners-Jets major semi on Friday and Sunday week.

If the FFA sticks by its usual practice of handing the preliminary final to the No2 referee, the Central Coast is likely to again be confronted by Breeze on February 17.

The minor premier needs to win by three goals to overturn the first leg 2-0 loss to the Jets in the return leg at Bluetongue Stadium on Sunday week in order to advance straight to the grand final.

 

[FFC Mariner]

I also notice that c**tboys assault on Viddie in the 2nd half (punch off the ball that left the player on the deck) has been ignored.

Breeze looks to have seen it because he wagged his finger at c**tboy at the next break in play.

If the club made a fuss of that, we could see him rubbed out for at least 2 weeks.

 

[Gen (MarinerMum)]

It's also interesting when he pulls up play and allows to to flow.  Interesting!  In an attacking position with a possible break and he calls the ball back.

 

[Chimmi]

what are his stats like for Sydney FC?

 

[Deej]

what are his stats like for Sydney FC?

well having a quick look on the website shows some interesting figures.

When Breeze has been ref for a Sydney game:

Won - 6
Drawn - 2
Lost - 2
Yellow cards for Sydney - 20
Yellow cards for opposition - 22
Red cards for Sydney - 1
Red cards for opposition - 4
Injury time goals for Sydney - 3 lol (vs us, Perth and Newcastle)

Yellow card count could be out slightly as it was only a quick look

 

[BrisRecky]

I sorta guessed breeze was an incompetent F**k, but on reviewing my conclusion ...he appears to be a CHEATING, INCOMPETENT F**K....any chance of getting peter green for the return leg??

 

[Rubbernose]

If the FFA sticks by its usual practice of handing the preliminary final to the No2 referee, the Central Coast is likely to again be confronted by Breeze on February 17.

This would be a complete joke if we cop him again. I hope the club tell the FFA to stick Matthew Breeze up their own fundament. He's already overseen a major stuff up in this finals series, one which will no doubt have a significant impact on it, and he should be punted.

He is hardly the 2nd best ref in this country. If he is, the A-League refs should wear sponsorship from the Guide Dog Association on the front of their shirts and a big picture of a brown paper bag overflowing with money on the back.

And if our refs are that shithouse we best bring in video ref technology.

One more thing regards that disallowed goal. I thought the directive to refs was that if in doubt with close offside calls leading to goals the benefit of the doubt should be given to the attacking team. This is a clear directive as far as I know. Yet really, how often do you see this actually applied by refs. If they did apply it, calls like that would surely be fewer and far between, and we'd see more goals.

And I wouldn't be carrying on like such a whiney little bitch.

 

[BrisRecky]

if  Breeze gets the home leg....well methinks we are just about F****D.... we would have to score 10 blatantly legal goals and breeze and his decorations still might weasel us out of it....

Anyone think the appeal by the mariners will come to anything?

 

[skilbeck]

the appeal by the mariners wont do anything IMO. The best chance would be to get at least half of the clubs in the A-League and appeal with them against him. I dont think we have anymore dirt on Breeze than we did after the Sydney game as the major f**k up last game wasnt by Breeze it was by his ASSistant

 

[striker]

Team                        P  W  D  L  F  A  GD  Pts
Central Coast Mariners FC 21 10 4 7 30 25 5 34

Mick..... according to your stats we lost 8 games and the table for the last season above shows 7 losses. + 1-  I guess last night's game. 

Does that mean that the mariners only lost when Breeze and Shields are in charge? Unreal!

you may well be right and when i get some more time will check the facts again with them combined

From where do you get the stats?  or do you flick thu all the match reports (that's the long way)

added up the mtach stats from the a-league website

Mick.... there must be a database somewhere that journos etc. use which must be more accurate.  Are there a statisticians in the media boxes where you and Kevrenor sit?... maybe they could release the info?

 

[Non Troll Newy Fan]

Get your tin foil hats out.... paranoia???

 

[dibo]

Get your tin foil hats out.... paranoia???

there's actually a stat here that could do with some explaining. puts it about ten steps ahead of the usual paranoia that infests all football supporter boards.