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JoyfulPenguin

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FFA boss David Gallop says crowd of at least 10,000 needed at Central Coast Mariners-Wellington Phoenix A-League game

May 2 2016 - 5:00PM
David Polkinghorne

FFA chief executive David Gallop says a crowd of at least 10,000 will be needed as a pass mark at this year's A-League fixture at Canberra Stadium.

And Canberra is in the running for the Socceroos' World Cup qualifiers against the United Arab Emirates and Thailand.

As Fairfax Media revealed last week, the Central Coast Mariners will play Wellington Phoenix at Canberra Stadium as part of the 2016-17 A-League campaign.

Likely to be held in November, it will be the first A-League fixture in the nation's capital since 2009 – when the Mariners played two games at Canberra Stadium, against Perth Glory and Adelaide United.

Crowds of 5193 and 5437 respectively turned out to those games, but Gallop said similar crowd numbers wouldn't be enough for the A-League to make a permanent return to the ACT.

Fairfax Media reported late last year the Mariners, who are struggling financially, were looking to strike a deal to play games in Canberra.

With international flights between Wellington and the ACT to begin later this year, the Phoenix have been brought on board.

Gallop was at the AIS to launch the FFA's guide for the development of women's soccer, as well as the Matildas' first camp of their campaign to win an Olympic medal.

"Any big game is an opportunity for people to vote with their feet and come out and show us that they're behind the sport," he said.

"It would also be very important for the Mariners to establish that game.

"Bluntly, 5000 would not be a result that they [the Mariners] would be looking for ... I would expect they would want to be doing significantly better than that."

When asked if at least 10,000 would be needed, Gallop said: "Yes, I would've thought so."

The ACT government is also looking to bring the Socceroos back, after almost 20,000 fans watched them beat Kyrgyzstan 3-0 at Canberra Stadium in November.

Australia has five home World Cup qualifiers coming up over 12 months, starting in September, against Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Japan, the United Arab Emirates and Thailand.

The Socceroos need to finish in the top two in their group to qualify for the 2018 World Cup in Russia, which would be their fourth straight appearance at the finals.

Gallop said the big games would be held in Australia's big cities, but Canberra was in the running to host a game.

While he wouldn't be drawn on who could play at Canberra Stadium, Fairfax Media believes it would either be the UAE or Thailand.

"It's early days on that, but we obviously had a successful event here in November and we're looking for a horses-for-courses approach to these qualifiers," Gallop said.

"Obviously we need government assistance. We unashamedly are looking for a commercial return and Canberra would be in the mix.

"Obviously the big games like Japan are going to be beyond Canberra's reach, but some of the smaller games we would certainly consider it."

As a Canberran, Gallop said an indoor stadium would obviously enhance his old home town's chances of attracting regular A-League and Socceroos fixtures.

He ruled out Canberra being home to a possible expansion team last year, with cities boasting a population in the millions preferred, but he did say an indoor stadium would bolster its claims.

The ACT government plans to build an indoor, rectangular stadium in Civic, but the Mr Fluffy asbestos debacle has forced that project to be put on hold with 2025 an earliest end date.

"I think facilities are an important part of the decisions around where we put teams," Gallop said.

"Being a Canberra boy I've always thought the place was ideally suited to an indoor facility, we know how successful it is at Etihad [Stadium] in Melbourne so we would certainly get behind [a Civic Stadium].

"Although expansion's not immediately on our agenda, it would certainly be a factor when we go to look at that."

Canberra being asked to attend to prove themselves is nothing but good news for us.
 

Rowdy

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The ACT government is also looking to bring the Socceroos back, after almost 20,000 fans watched them beat Kyrgyzstan 3-0 at Canberra Stadium in November.
Gallop said the big games would be held in Australia's big cities, but Canberra was in the running to host a game.

While he wouldn't be drawn on who could play at Canberra Stadium, Fairfax Media believes it would either be the UAE or Thailand.

"It's early days on that, but we obviously had a successful event here in November and we're looking for a horses-for-courses approach to these qualifiers," Gallop said.

"Hey Gallop, 20,000 to a Socceroo's game is a sucessful result financially for the FFA is it ???"

Well what about bringing a Socceroo's game to the Coast you prick!

Coasties have been supporting the game for OVER A DECADE now and we'd EASILY sell-out the stadium even if the opposition was a Vietnam, Thai or Kyrg team.

Factor in Syd and Newy die-hards making the trip and the tickets sales might create a record for the quickest sell-out for a national team game.

We wouldnt be some experiment like it would down in 'neo-con' land.

Just BRING IT already !
 
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dibo

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I doubt capacity is the only issue in Gosford. We might also have an issue with proximity to an airport (or lack of). We also lack corporate facilities - there are no large function spaces in the stadium for >100 people.
 

FFC Mariner

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100% correct. CCS is a shit NRL ground and not fit for the modern corporate side of the game now.

Also, the ACT government will chuck money at it, Gosford council cant
 

Rowdy

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So Charlesworth's dreams of the COE being used by the Socceroo's as their base for future pre-game camps/training etc means the Central Coast will only have a Caravan Park rating from the FFA.

Good enough for camping NOT showcasing the Socceroo's. :headbutt:

Only solidfies the Scummer's tag of "Gyp's". :p
 

dibo

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Funnily enough, our ground was built for about $30m in 1999. That's about $47m in today's money (I've inflation adjusted all subsequent numbers). That's a very cheap stadium.

Meanwhile, Parramatta Stadium is set to cost $300m.

Newcastle's ground got a $60m *upgrade* a couple of years ago, and in 2003 they got the Eastern Stand done which cost $41m. So they've had $100m or so since our ground was built.

Kogarah has had 3 upgrades and Wollongong 2 since our ground was built, and neither has an A-League team nor a full time NRL side.

There's an argument for some serious cash to be pointed towards our ground.
 

pjennings

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We need an independant who has a good chance of winning.

That should open their wallets (hopefully)

No - we need to make the major parties both commit to an upgrade because it is a marginal seat. An independent alone can do nothing. A win/win bet is what we need.
 

FFC Mariner

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Major parties have been shitting on the Coast for decades. A pox on both their houses.

Get LM to nominate - he will be strong enough to either win or hand it to someone on preferences.

That should get them to open their chequebooks.

Personally, I'd be happy with a roof over the open end, the Palm trees gone and a small stand (covered) together with booting out the bowling club and that being a members bar.
 

pjennings

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He did that last time and the Coast got nothing. We need commitments from the parties so that we get the money either way.
 

dibo

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I don't reckon the Coalition is going to throw money at the Central Coast, or at least not at the stadium. For 12 event days a year it's not worth it. If we had a NRL team as well it might be a different story. But if you're going to throw a big whack of money at something, there are probably other things. They picked the ATO jobs last time, they'll probably double down on that; frankly it's more likely to have a lasting positive effect on the local economy.
 

FFC Mariner

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He handed the Libs the seat last time. Got us nowhere.

Then we need a tighter contest where there is some fear of loss.

Politicians cant actually change anything - all we vote for is the degree of annoying interference. Elections are simply a chance to plunge our hands into the pork barrel

I want that roof dammit
 

dibo

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Then we need a tighter contest where there is some fear of loss.

Not sure directing preferences to the Libs helps at all there - the seat has mostly gone to them in recent elections:
2013: 3.00% Libs
2010: 1.00% Labor
2007: 0.11% Labor
2004: 6.81% Libs
2001: 6.98% Libs
1998: 2.01% Libs
1996: 3.56% Libs

That said, it's overcooking it to say he delivered Robertson to the Libs - looking at the distribution of preferences, before he was excluded Labor was down by nearly 5,000 votes. His preferences broke 53:47 to the Libs, but for Labor to win by that point he'd have had to have his preferences break 75:25 for Labor, and I'm not sure he'd have been able to get that disciplined a flow. Centrist independents' preferences tend to spray.

In Dobell, similar story, except despite indicating a preference to the Libs, the decisions of actual voters meant Bracken's preferences actually broke 52:48 for Labor, but it wasn't enough to pull in a nearly 2,000 vote lead.

Politicians cant actually change anything - all we vote for is the degree of annoying interference. Elections are simply a chance to plunge our hands into the pork barrel

I want that roof dammit[/URL]
You posted a lot about the evils about the ETS when Rudd was PM, so I don't think you actually believe that.
 
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