FFA Cup

[nearlyyellow]

Courageous effort here by BG

 

[nearlyyellow]

Yep, unfortunately for BG 0, PG 3 are way too good. But all credit to BG, they have played very well to get to the FFA semis. And they've just signed the Palm Beach Sharks gun striker for next year so they can only improve. I hope they get on the scorecard in this one before full time.

 

[Wombat]

Just a thought - WSW are the Champions Of Asia and are languishing at the bottom of the A League. By what stretch of the imagination is it impossible for us not to go all the way in the FFACup?

Is there some sort of glass-half-full mentality that prevails in CCM supporters? That could explain our perpetual low crowds.

No....we play ugly boring Football. I go to every game and try my best to drag plenty with me but less than die hards don't want to see the clueless and gutless shit we serve up most weeks. Mossy has to stop being so negative or he will lose his job!

 

[nebakke]

No....we play ugly boring Football. I go to every game and try my best to drag plenty with me but less than die hards don't want to see the clueless and gutless shit we serve up most weeks. Mossy has to stop being so negative or he will lose his job!

It's funny though... The people I know that don't go, are largely split into two groups..

1) Those commonly referred to as 'euro snobs'.
They don't go because they want 'European quality football' or nothing at all. We won't get them to come consistently unless we can play like Real Madrid or Barcelone... Literally... The approximation stuff that Roar and Adelaide are toying around with won't ever be good enough.

2) Rugby/Cricket families. They don't follow because football isn't really much of an interest. They may convert if their kids start playing or they may convert because NRL f***s them over again and they want a local team to play something or some sort that they can go and watch locally. Here's the crucial thing though... They haven't got a clue whether we're playing 'boring defensive football' or whether we play 'an exciting offensive style'... All they see is 11 men kicking the ball, wearing blue and yellow.

The majority of the rest, go, at least occasionally. They go because they like football and want it to grow in Australia. They go because they're local-patriots. They go because they're number-two-converts (no, not THAT #2 ).
The ones that like it and want it to grow here - I daresay like most of the people on here - are not likely to go anywhere because that would defeat the purpose.
That doesn't mean that they should be taken for granted, they could always switch teams... But to think that we should play 'better football' to pull in more people is to fool oneself.

What's with the negativity thing though? For mine - against Perth - we did nothing but attack, for the first half. I mean Pascolieri spent most of his time in midfield - regular midfield, not that defensive stuff, with Bosnar not far behind him... How much further do you want them to push up?

 

[nearlyyellow]

Given the current stages of our team development I think that the game against AU tonight will be a tough task. tbh I'm not optimistic of a win but I am hopeful of a good performance. I don't want us to get a drubbing. I would like to see a goal difference of only 1 if we lose. C'mon you Yellow

 

[MagpieMariner]

I was a lot happier with Sunday's performance compared to the two previous games. The main thing that disturbs me is our inability to get the pill inside the net, but I think back to Matty Simon's first season, where he couldn't hit the ground if he dropped the ball. Then the next season he scored his first goal for us early on then went on to get a dozen that year. I'm hopeful the same sort of thing will happen with this team. We need to get our first one in and then a lot more will follow (I discount the one against the scum, even Dukey admits it was very arsey). I'm seeing the teamwork getting better each game, nowhere near acceptable yet, but heading in the right direction. I'm hoping for a similar improvement on Wednesday with the hope that Galec won't keep a clean one. I'll be happy with that, although I'll be even happier with a win.

 

[shelleybeach]

Definitely do not want to see a drubbing either but as a cup game we might as well really go for it, be a bit disruptive and see if they can be thrown off their game. Nothing to lose.

C'MON YOU MARINERS!

 

[Capt. Awesome]

Great interview here with Dukey. Doesn't sound like a team in crisis to me.

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2014/11/11/duke-out-rediscover-goal-scoring-touch-mariners

 

[nebakke]

Great interview here with Dukey. Doesn't sound like a team in crisis to me.

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2014/11/11/duke-out-rediscover-goal-scoring-touch-mariners

It's hard to tell, I'll acknowledge that, but considering he's one of the guys that last season's rumors had leaving, it's not too bad.
I sit near the bench at BT, was looking for discontent on the weekend... Looks can be deceiving, but communications with Mossy seemed to me to be flowing both ways, with none looking upset or ignoring each other and the boys on the bench were happily chatting and joking around at the start of the game...

 

[midfielder]

Great read on the BG's match last night from ABC reporter Francis Leach

http://www.francisleach.com/speaking-frankly-blog/2014/11/11/pretty-green-footballs-homecoming

 

[dibo]

It's hard to tell, I'll acknowledge that, but considering he's one of the guys that last season's rumors had leaving, it's not too bad.
I sit near the bench at BT, was looking for discontent on the weekend... Looks can be deceiving, but communications with Mossy seemed to me to be flowing both ways, with none looking upset or ignoring each other and the boys on the bench were happily chatting and joking around at the start of the game...

People were whinging in the Sydney game that people *weren't* looking agitated that we were losing; there apparently wasn't enough passion on show.

 

[nearlyyellow]

Great read on the BG's match last night from ABC reporter Francis Leach

http://www.francisleach.com/speaking-frankly-blog/2014/11/11/pretty-green-footballs-homecoming

Yeah, it is a nice write up on the FFA Cup and the success of the BG's. But I do take issue with this (quoted from the article) :
"The ethnic heritage of these clubs, so much a part of the strength and diversity of the Australian game, was seen as a liability. Australian football underwent a form of ethnic cleansing as it fought to rewrite the narrative of the game as an Australian experience."
I do hate to bang on about it (some will say then don't ) but I seem to recall that it was the perceived ethnicity of "soccer" that was holding popularity back in Australia, wasn't it? You know, Johnny Warren (RIP) and his "wogball"? Time has passed for football to be the sole precinct of ethnic groups in Australia. It has to become a wider community supported code. In part that's why the A-League has succeeded, isn't it?
And that's all from me on the for today.

 

[eenfish]

I went down to watch the Glory - Greens game, that was a barn storming effort I think. Crowd was great, there were some very good chances with the wind going their way in the 2nd half - dare say they'd pick up more than a few points if they were bumped up to the A-League, players showed some real fight and didn't seem scared by the occasion like some of the St Albans players when they played Perth a few weeks back.

As for us, I'm watching a replay of the match now, we made some seriously good chances and play and overall performance is probably the best of the season, so hopefully we can go one step further. Perth are playing well at the moment with a very good run of form, so losing 1-0 to them isn't the end of the world. Adelaide will be tough, especially considering they haven't lost at home in like 12 matches or something.

My one concern is Hutcho seems to have lost a step with some of those late challenges just outside the box. I'm still more Dibo than Wombat on the topic, but his influence and intangibles must be weighed up against his overall performance when picking a team. I guess.

 

[radar]

No....we play ugly boring Football.

...clueless and gutless shit we serve up

Mossy has to stop being so negative

yes negativity is bad

 

[midfielder]

Yeah, it is a nice write up on the FFA Cup and the success of the BG's. But I do take issue with this (quoted from the article) :
"The ethnic heritage of these clubs, so much a part of the strength and diversity of the Australian game, was seen as a liability. Australian football underwent a form of ethnic cleansing as it fought to rewrite the narrative of the game as an Australian experience."
I do hate to bang on about it (some will say then don't ) but I seem to recall that it was the perceived ethnicity of "soccer" that was holding popularity back in Australia, wasn't it? You know, Johnny Warren (RIP) and his "wogball"? Time has passed for football to be the sole precinct of ethnic groups in Australia. It has to become a wider community supported code. In part that's why the A-League has succeeded, isn't it?
And that's all from me on the for today.

Inept, corrupt, bankrupt, in-wood looking, internal conflicts, state feudal-ciations, some district- feudal-ciations, power struggles , associations V many NSL teams, beyond hopeless leadership…. The strong clubs were mostly ethnically based… in spite of all this Football managed to grow a huge player base and many that worked within what was then Soccer Australia could see the issue’s. Then old Nick from WA set up PG latter followed by the Northern Spirit and they showed what could be done..

JON had to break the mind set of the media, people involved in the game at the time and he used Old Soccer V New Football… this was always wrong as MOST folk involved in the game were decent people simply caught in a beyond crazy management structure with corrupt, inept leadership.


The newer slogan we are Football better says who we are and given the success of the A-League most of the NSL bitters have come around, and it’s time to let them back into the tent… Frank Lowy in Hal’s 1 to 6 would rather have eaten his own vomit than give any credit to a team outside Hal… However as the article implies its time to accept most of the folk in the NSL were decent Football loving folk as I said caught up in a system they could not control…


Only the Melbourne Knights and arguably a couple of other Victoria clubs have tried to buck what FFA are doing…


It’s time to declare the Old Soccer / New Football over its done the job that needed doing at the time its time now for we are Football… that’s my take …

 

[marinerfix]

C'mon Boys time to turn the form around!!!!!!

 

[Capt. Awesome]

No Bosnar ooooooo.... Sim as CB or Rose?

 

[Capt. Awesome]

Twitter just said its Rose as left CB. SIM left back

 

[Roy Law]

Very interesting...I wonder if Monty will be sitting deep in the defensive line; and Duke, Vernes, Mane and Kim - that's a lot of attacking intent. Matty Simon on the bench...COYY!

 

[shipwreck]

No Bosnar I he injured or is he getting scapegoat now?