clarifying a small point about Roy.

[yorkshireman]

Ok, all the talk in the papers and on the net is stating that Roy will be cited for the headbutt in the NYE game BUT the laws state that if the ref deals with the issue (which he did by issuing a yellow), no further action can be taken. Am I correct in this or do the FFA ignore the internationally accepted rules and do what they like anyway?

Thanks

 

[Big Al]

Also depends on what the yellow was issued for.

The match report is critical.

Was it for the New Years kiss or the melee after it?

Also would like the media to stop saying how long they think he should be out for.

 

[Pirate Pete]

I think it's been pointed out elsewhere there is something now called "obvious error". I understand that the incident can be looked at again by the FFA.
In one of the stills it did look Roy was just resting his head on Muscat's shoulder to be honest.

I've thought about how long he'll be out for and I was hoping for a couple of weeks. However I now think the FFA will throw the book at him.
Reason being is because of all the bad behaviour by fans being talked about in the press recently. They've got to be seen doing something about the violence.

 

[adz]

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au...ons - FINAL v2_1ard7g03so5nd1r1eo4we9ckj9.pdf

4.2 A Disciplinary Committee may:
(c) on application from a Competition Administrator, rectify an obvious error in the Referee’s disciplinary decision.

 

[yorkshireman]

reckon the "apology" helped or made matters worse with the oscar comment?

 

[dibo]

It's irrelevant. The referee made an obvious error, the rules provide for the MRP to review, and he's gonna have a case to answer.

Given that Muscat is in the same boat, I'm perfectly happy with that outcome. You don't want kids watching the game to think elbowing or headbutting are acceptable.

 

[shipwreck]

Videos from Facebook have over half a million views of the incident, good publicity?

Interesting that the vast majority of the neutral viewers who don't even know it's the Aleague comment that it's a result of poor refereeing, if Muscat got sent for the first elbow it never would have happened....

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Videos from Facebook have over half a million views of the incident, good publicity?

Interesting that the vast majority of the neutral viewers who don't even know it's the Aleague comment that it's a result of poor refereeing, if Muscat got sent for the first elbow it never would have happened....

It's true. Not that it mitigates responsibility. I have to laugh at the sheepshaggers that reckon there was no swinging arm from Muscat! Thug had a history of throwing elbows.
But yeah, there's the 'we know the ref made a decision, but he clearly had no idea what was happening, so we're going to look at it anyway' clause. Incidents like this probably show why its in place.
Disappointed that they seems to have stopped adjudicating on dives though.

I'd love to know what Muscat said when he ran back to get in Roy's face though.

 

[Bladesman]

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/dct/ffa-dtc-performgroup-eu-west-1/National Disciplinary Regulations - FINAL v2_1ard7g03so5nd1r1eo4we9ckj9.pdf

4.2 A Disciplinary Committee may:
(c) on application from a Competition Administrator, rectify an obvious error in the Referee’s disciplinary decision.

MRP will be sitting 24 x 7 dealing with all the "obviously errors" made by the aleague officials if they start applying this rule.

 

[adz]

MRP will be sitting 24 x 7 dealing with all the "obviously errors" made by the aleague officials if they start applying this rule.

Need some more ratings here, funny, agree, and some sort of sad because it's true

 

[Big Al]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/central-coast-mariners-roy-odonovan-catches-wellingtons-manny-muscat-with-vicious-headbutt/story-e6frf423-122769406368

Both O’Donovan and Muscat have been cited by FFA over the incident and may be banned.

First I've seen a citing being mentioned

 

[Gratis]

"In one of the stills it did look Roy was just resting his head on Muscat's shoulder to be honest."

Hehe like it

 

[Pirate Pete]

Not having Fox, that's about the best quality I've seen of the incident. Looks like another headbutt to me.

 

[Pirate Pete]

nevermind. tried to upload a gif, but can't get it to work.
shows up OK in the preview though

http://imgur.com/Pqwnk17

 

[true believer]

seems a lot of physical contact was inflected on roys head without KGJ
seeing anything .

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

So does anybody have any idea when his cheek was cut? It looks fine in that gif then.

 

[Gratis]

yeah it was only a few moments before - muscat flings an elbow and misses and catches Roy across the face with his wrist. Roy throws up his hands and looks at the ref but nothing. In an article I saw Roy suggests it happened more than once too but that was the only one i saw

 

[Pirate Pete]

So does anybody have any idea when his cheek was cut? It looks fine in that gif then.

I reckon you can see it already cut in the gif. I reckon it's when he rested his head on Muscats shoulder.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

yeah it was only a few moments before - muscat flings an elbow and misses and catches Roy across the face with his wrist. Roy throws up his hands and looks at the ref but nothing. In an article I saw Roy suggests it happened more than once too but that was the only one i saw

Yeah Muscat definitely took two cracks at it - and roy didnt reatilate just appeals to ref... Hope this is taken into account somewhat... Muscat going back for a third effort has got them both almost certainly suspended.

 

[nearlyyellow]

So does anybody have any idea when his cheek was cut? It looks fine in that gif then.

I reckon it's when he rested his head on Muscats shoulder

Errrhhmmm, maybe "it's when his head impacted on Muscats shoulder it opened up the cut and more of the claret flowed."

Watching copious videos of the incident I think Roy's eye was already swollen prior to the head butt. But in any case, in spite of the degree of previous provocation by Muscat, it was very injudicious of him because for sure, on a CCM complaint, Muscat would have been called before the MRP and some justice would have been served. Gotta love the Irish!