Central Coast Mariners Squad for 2009/10 HAL Season

[snowroo]

Viduka would be nice but it sounds like he might retire alltogether, besides price and his questionable comittment.

Sterjovski I think would be a good option. Would put bums on seats as well as a good consistant player.

 

[snowroo]

We got good value from Aloisi while he was here and made a good call on letting him go and know what you mean with marquee's though. Just no old fat guys!

Wonder how Fowler will go. He looks like that marquee the jets had judging by a photo I saw the other day. Glad he's not with us but who knows he might be a sensation, doubtful.

 

[Eternal Optimist]

We got good value from Aloi$i while he was here and made a good call on letting him go and know what you mean with marquee's though. Just no old fat guys!

Wonder how Fowler will go. He looks like that marquee the jets had judging by a photo I saw the other day. Glad he's not with us but who knows he might be a sensation, doubtful.

Robbie was an ace in his day, but I haven't seen him play over the last couple of years. I go up to Townsville quite often, and the humidity in summer up there is a killer. I just wonder about his general fitness and if he could cope with that. I wasn't surprised that he was enticed over here, just surprised that he went so far up north.

 

[snowroo]

I had similar thoughts on the heat factor and certainly realise that he was a great player in his prime, GOD I believe at Liverpool. I do hope he's got some go in him still it would be good for the A-League and would draw a crowd for our games with them too.

Does anyone know what sort of form he was in when he last played?

 

[Deej]

LOL at people suggesting Mark Viduka as a marquee, as if we could afford him lol

Our best bet at a marquee at this stage is definitely Sterjovski, but even his asking price is not cheap and our budgets are tight.

I don't care who we sign as long as they're better than the players we have let go and they give us something we've been desperately missing since Jedinak left.

 

[snowroo]

Management must realise that continuing to play the way we have will lead to much bigger problems than shelling out a few buck on a player that will make a big difference to crowd numbers, sponsorship and media exposure. Something we had when we had a marquee.

Look at the money that could have been made if management had not been such tight asses and purchased better players before th CL.

 

[dru]

Management must realise that continuing to play the way we have will lead to much bigger problems than shelling out a few buck on a player that will make a big difference to crowd numbers, sponsorship and media exposure. Something we had when we had a marquee.

Look at the money that could have been made if management had not been such tight asses and purchased better players before th CL.

How could they of made money?

 

[bjw]

Management must realise that continuing to play the way we have will lead to much bigger problems than shelling out a few buck on a player that will make a big difference to crowd numbers, sponsorship and media exposure. Something we had when we had a marquee.

Look at the money that could have been made if management had not been such tight asses and purchased better players before th CL.

How could they of made money?

gotta spend money to make money...

 

[dru]

Management must realise that continuing to play the way we have will lead to much bigger problems than shelling out a few buck on a player that will make a big difference to crowd numbers, sponsorship and media exposure. Something we had when we had a marquee.

Look at the money that could have been made if management had not been such tight asses and purchased better players before th CL.

How could they of made money?

gotta spend money to make money...

We already did spend money on our squad, also spending money doesn't guarantee making money. I want to know where he thinks we were going to make money.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Management must realise that continuing to play the way we have will lead to much bigger problems than shelling out a few buck on a player that will make a big difference to crowd numbers, sponsorship and media exposure. Something we had when we had a marquee.

Look at the money that could have been made if management had not been such tight asses and purchased better players before th CL.

How could they of made money?

gotta spend money to make money...

Really? I reckon LG/PT crunched the numbers pretty hard and failed to find where that is ever true in football

 

[Kareem]

i transferred Doig into our team on Fifa09 (the rest apart from Viduka + Mile) dont exist on Fifa09
Doig at the back- wow
NB: Skill level 62
my defence is so much better...however i dont think anyone disputes that this guy sounds like a good player- just question marks over injuries!

 

[snowroo]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I understand the Jets got money from the AFC for making the second round. I'm sure I read in the daily tele that they got $250,000 and $250,000 more if they get to the following round.

There is 1.5 million for the winner and $750,000 for the runner up. As we know Adelaide achieved that so why could'nt have we with a revamped team. Is it the coach? Maybe partly but he does'nt kick the ball.

It will be interesting to see how far Newcastle, who did exactly what we should have done, go in the CL. Con might be an asshole but a smart one.

Besides that the media exposure both here and in Asia may have drawn potential sponsors and investors. Certainly better than the only media exposure we have had during the CL that has had the anti football brigade writing how crap we are and how the A-League is crap blah,blah. That is sure to turn potential sponsors off. That's sure to further reduce crowd numbers.

What money on new players did we spend leading into the CL? It seems like we have spent way to much on average players on longer contracts than should have been the case IMO. Clarke is a perfect example. Should have been gone after his last contract expired or even before. We need to start plugging the leaky ship that is defence, we should have started long ago.

If the NRL came into the CC now I think it would make it very hard for the Mariners as a club.

 

[Ben]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I understand the Jets got money from the AFC for making the second round. I'm sure I read in the daily tele that they got 250,000 and 250,000 more if they get to the finals.

Besides that the media exposure both here and in Asia may have drawn potential sponsors and investors. Certainly better than the only media exposure we have had during the CL that has had the anti football brigade writing how crap we are and how the A-League is crap blah,blah. That is sure to turn potential sponsors off. That's sure to further reduce crowd numbers.

What money on new players did we spend leading into the CL? It seems like we have spent way to much on average players on longer contracts than should have been the case IMO. Clarke is a perfect example. Should have been gone after his last contract expired or even before. We need to start plugging the leaky ship that is defence, we should have started long ago.

If the NRL came into the CC now I think it would make it very hard for the Mariners as a club.

correct me if i am wrong but i am pretty sure that the prize money is split up by the FFA and given to all the clubs and the cost of continuing in the competition may be more then the potential income that the jets will recieve from competing.
I do agree with your comments about sponsors and that our unsuccesful campaign may discourage some potential sponsors

 

[snowroo]

Now you mention it I think your right but does that extend to the winner and runner up at 1.5m and 750k prizemoney? Adelaide got there.

I was'nt trying to be smart just incase you......

 

[Ben]

Now you mention it I think your right but does that extend to the winner and runner up at 1.5m and 750k prizemoney? Adelaide got there.

I was'nt trying to be smart just incase you......

I am pretty sure that all prize money earnt by a club is shared with all the a league clubs. This happened last year with adelaide when they made the final and also when they went the club world championship they had to share the money. Because adelaide had to share the money around they made a loss with their ACL campaign and that semi led to their bad financial state now

 

[snowroo]

I understand that the prize money was greatly increased for this year which helps cover financial costs but we incurred them without getting anything in return. Other than our share of the Jets booty.

Is Adelaides financial position directly contributed to the CL and CWC expences?

Do the FFA not contribute to CL expenses even though they divide the money up with other clubs? Does'nt seem fair. I'll have to suss it out a bit more.

 

[dru]

afc article on prize money, these have never been publicly confirmed as far as I can tell.

Sponsors- In this economic climate no one is going to come knocking with big dollars everyone is cutting back. Sony scrapped the deal with the nix, pretty sure sampsung pulled out of sponsoring the victory. If anyone was going to get a big deal out of asia it would of been Adelaide funnily enough nothing has arrived even though they will be competing again next year. we have one of the better models for this, lots of smaller sponors means they will most likely stick with us when big deals are getting scrapped.

Players- you keep on coming back to clarky, squad player who is on little of our playing budget because he is also part of out coaching staff. Yes our defence needs to be strengthened, no arguments there but at the time we could sign out of contract players or possibly from lower leagues in Australia. Where have the jets good recruits come from out of contract players in Ljubo and Sasho. Name players reasonably priced that we could of got to strengthen the defence before the ACL. Should we possibly have got Bosnich in, maybe it wouldn't of hurt but lets see how the Jets go against pohang before we judge how they would of gone in our group.

Prize money - Hand up I got part of this wrong, didn't know about the travel subsidy for away game payed by the afc. looking at the figures though it wouldn't be covering your costs for the squad plus support staff. Nothing has changed though the FFA still takes half of any prize money earned and distributes between the rest of the clubs. It did extend to adelaide making the final and the cwc as they complained about the situation in the media. I can't believe you believe something written in the tele, I have a bridge you might be interested in 

 

[Ben]

Is Adelaides financial position directly contributed to the CL and CWC expences?

Do the FFA not contribute to CL expenses even though they divide the money up with other clubs? Does'nt seem fair. I'll have to suss it out a bit more.

The ACL wasn't the only thing that led to the adelaide financial crisis but it was one of the most recent, Their problems started several years ago.
I defintily agree with you that spliting up the prize money is unfair

 

[Bex]

I believe its a case of FFA getting some of the prize money and Adelaide getting some of the prize money. There would be articles that mention the numbers but I haven't got time to do the searches ATM.

 

[promdi442]

afc article on prize money, these have never been publicly confirmed as far as I can tell.


Yes our defence needs to be strengthened, no arguments there but at the time we could sign out of contract players or possibly from lower leagues in Australia. Where have the jets good recruits come from out of contract players in Ljubo and Sasho.

Well it seems that one of the jets GOOD (???) recruits Ljubo could be on the tarmac waiting to be flown out of Newcastle. After his vitriolic outburst in yesterdays Herald Con has now had a few things to say about Ljubo and his future at the Jets.

Con returns serve on Ljubo
3/06/2009 4:00:00 AM
LJUBO Milicevic faces a club sanction after his latest outburst, but Jets owner Con Constantine insisted yesterday that he intended to sell the outspoken defender, not sack him.

Constantine also dismissed Milicevic's status as a self-proclaimed players' advocate, saying the players "wouldn't piss on Ljubo if he was on fire".
In what has become a regular occurrence since his arrival in February, Milicevic launched a stinging attack on the club and Constantine in yesterday's Herald over the way they had handled out-of-contract midfielder Kaz Patafta.
The volatile centre-back also questioned the owner's motives in an expletive-riddled spray and virtually dared the club to sack him.
"He wants to be sacked so he can be seen as a martyr, but he will never be sacked he will be sold," Constantine said, adding that the club had received an offer from Asia.
"The players wouldn't piss on Ljubo if he was on fire.

"The boy has problems. He needs to get his act together, put a Band-Aid over his mouth, or no one will touch him.
"When you piss on the system it gets wet. When the system pisses on you, you drown.
"He is heading that way.
"He would have lasted five minutes if he was in Italy and two minutes in Greece."
Milicevic, 28, is contracted with the Jets until March 31, but the round-of-16 Asian Champions League battle against Pohang in Korea on June 24 is almost certain to be his final game for the club.
"I will be here for the next game,' Milicevic said.
"Asia is my last option. I am 28 and believe I still have many years in Europe. I have not hit my peak. I feel super-fresh and motivated.
"I had a bit of time off, which I needed. I have readjusted, refocused and I am playing better than ever. My mind is more settled and clearer than ever."
Milicevic's hopes of returning to Europe would hinge on the Jets agreeing to a transfer fee.
"We can't have Ljubo trying to run this club and tell us what to do," Constantine said.
"If we have to, we will keep him outside the square and watching inside."

What a dick head. Thank God we have a no dick head policy that keeps egotistical dick heads like Ljubo from playing with the Mariners.