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CCM Fans and the club
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nebakke
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So I'm thinking that the interesting one is this - does anyone know how much - if anything - we're currently getting, beyond the salary cap? Is 600000 about the same, an upgrade or a drop?
JoyfulPenguin
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Some slightly worrying quotes from Charlesworth:
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/arti...ers-fear-theyll-be-left-short-changed-tv-deal
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/arti...ers-fear-theyll-be-left-short-changed-tv-deal
JoyfulPenguin
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pjennings
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It is an upgrade because it is over and above the cap - but short of what the owners want. This is another thing that the commercial FTA and overseas rights need to cover. I know MC is after clarity - but I doubt he will get it until the other deals are done next year. In the meantime he is keeping the pressure on the FFA, not only citing the Mariners but by extension anyone that is not a 'big club'. TBH the only clubs that can be considered big are the 2 Sydney and 2 Melbourne teams.
Luke
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That was very tongue in cheek haha
nebakke
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I'm guessing, from the way the talk is though, that there's likely to be a bit more coming once the other deals are signed and, while it might not be the 15 mill that FFA would like, you'd still expect it to have the potential to put quite a bit extra in the kitty for the clubs.
Also - isn't WSW only just keeping their heads above water financially? I seem to recall having read somewhere that they're not exactly in the black and that the Primo guy wasn't impressed - although it's not like they're in disaster territory.
nebakke
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My God... The FFA actually negotiated a clause in to allow Fox to resell the Sat-night game at whatever price they want while also setting a price for them to purchase it. Way to fix the price of the FTA deal you dimwits! Combined with the lack of consultation with primary stakeholders and the 6-year deal I can't say I blame the owners for feeling that the whole thing reeks somewhat of amateur hour.
true believer
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Added that fox no longer have the EPL.
Maybe the police should be called in.
Maybe the police should be called in.
Forum Phoenix
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Hey JP, that second Australian article is behind a pay wall - any chance you could cut and paste please.
Clubs will need to push for the structure to changes it's sounding like - sustainability and supporting those who supply the main product should be the first and foremost objective. They need to listen to the clubs on this - not dictate.
Clubs will need to push for the structure to changes it's sounding like - sustainability and supporting those who supply the main product should be the first and foremost objective. They need to listen to the clubs on this - not dictate.
JoyfulPenguin
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Can't access it either now, wasn't behind a pay wall when I first accessed it sorry FP.
Forum Phoenix
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Thx anyway JP
nebakke
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Just copy the address from the post and dump it in a google search. The link it'll show you will circumvent the paywall
JoyfulPenguin
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Soccer’s new broadcast deal a ‘quantum leap’, says Steven Lowy
FFA chairman Steven Lowy, left, with his chief executive David Gallop at yesterday’s announcement.
By Ray Gatt
Football Federation Australia chairman Steven Lowy has trumpeted Australian soccer’s new six-year, $346 million television broadcast deal as “a quantum leap for the game in this country”, but it has been met with anger and disappointment from A-League club owners.
In the deal with current broadcasters Foxtel and Fox Sports, which will run until 2023, FFA will receive a little over $57m a year, an increase of $24m a year on its previous four-year contract.
It will involve a package of four of the five A-League games — one game is being held back to sell to free-to-air television in the new year — plus the rights to some Socceroos and Matildas matches.
“The transformation for the game since 2003 has been remarkable and football is now entrenched as a mainstream Australian sport,” Lowy said yesterday.
“Our game has never seen a deal of this magnitude.
“It is a quantum leap for us and gives us the certainty to continue to implement our strategy to grow the A-League, the W-League, the Socceroos and Matildas and grassroots football.”
Part of the rights will allow $3m a season for attracting more marquee players along the lines of the deal under which Socceroos great Tim Cahill signed to play with Melbourne City this season.
FFA chairman Steven Lowy, left, with his chief executive David Gallop at yesterday’s announcement.
By Ray Gatt
Football Federation Australia chairman Steven Lowy has trumpeted Australian soccer’s new six-year, $346 million television broadcast deal as “a quantum leap for the game in this country”, but it has been met with anger and disappointment from A-League club owners.
In the deal with current broadcasters Foxtel and Fox Sports, which will run until 2023, FFA will receive a little over $57m a year, an increase of $24m a year on its previous four-year contract.
It will involve a package of four of the five A-League games — one game is being held back to sell to free-to-air television in the new year — plus the rights to some Socceroos and Matildas matches.
“The transformation for the game since 2003 has been remarkable and football is now entrenched as a mainstream Australian sport,” Lowy said yesterday.
“Our game has never seen a deal of this magnitude.
“It is a quantum leap for us and gives us the certainty to continue to implement our strategy to grow the A-League, the W-League, the Socceroos and Matildas and grassroots football.”
Part of the rights will allow $3m a season for attracting more marquee players along the lines of the deal under which Socceroos great Tim Cahill signed to play with Melbourne City this season.
JoyfulPenguin
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Fox Sports chief executive Patrick Delaney said he was delighted the company would be backing up for another six years.
They have been there since the start of the A-League in 2005.
He also revealed the negotiations had been “nerve racking” and that FFA chief executive David Gallop had “got every bit of petrol that was in the tank”.
Yet despite a deal many believe is a win-win for the sport, the club owners were left bitterly upset, especially with the process.
Despite having two members on a special broadcasting rights advisory board, they were informed of the full details only yesterday via a teleconference call just one hour before FFA officially announced the deal.
One angry source texted The Australian saying: “The deal stinks. It is amateur hour. My kids could have done a better deal.”
Another source suggested it was a far from happy discussion with FFA yesterday. “Let’s just say one side of the table was happy, the other wasn’t.”
The clubs have a number of concerns, notably the cash component of the deal and how much of it is contra.
The recently formed Australian Professional Football Clubs Association, which represents the A-League clubs, issued a statement after the announcement.
“APFCA members received a briefing today from Steven Lowy and David Gallop on the FFA broadcast rights sale to Fox. Regrettably, the APFCA have not been directly involved in the negotiations and therefore are not in a position to comment on the outcomes,” the statement read.
“In the interest of Australian football at large, the focus of the APFCA remains on the viability of the clubs and the league and therefore on seeking appropriate distribution of the revenues that the A-League generates.
“Following the announcement of the broadcast rights sale, the APFCA has sought immediate assurances from FFA regarding the future distributions and associated financial models required to ensure the sustainable financial health of the league and its clubs.”
Gallop, who said the Fox deal was more than double the existing broadcast deal “on a like-for-like basis”, confirmed the head body had spoken with the owners yesterday.
“We told them we would work quickly to come up with a funding and distribution model that reflects their investment. We acknowledged we have a responsibility to other parts of the game,” Gallop said.
“But there is no doubt this will be an increase of some significance for the A-League clubs.
“We can’t set a level today, but we are confident we can move quickly over the next few months to ensure a significant increase for clubs.”
Gallop said FFA hoped to sort out a free-to-air component, plus radio and digital rights, some time in the new year. The head body is waiting for cricket’s broadcast rights to be determined first.
That will hopefully result in a Saturday game being shown live on FTA. Gallop said there had been interest from the commercial television channels, though it has been reported by website DeciderTV that the Nine Network is not interested.
Gallop confirmed that if a free-to-air deal did not eventuate, then the fifth game would revert to Fox Sports, which will fork out extra money.
The Australian understands the figure is around $3m and that, theoretically, Fox could sell that game to networks for significantly less than the $10m to $15m FFA would like to get for it.
They have been there since the start of the A-League in 2005.
He also revealed the negotiations had been “nerve racking” and that FFA chief executive David Gallop had “got every bit of petrol that was in the tank”.
Yet despite a deal many believe is a win-win for the sport, the club owners were left bitterly upset, especially with the process.
Despite having two members on a special broadcasting rights advisory board, they were informed of the full details only yesterday via a teleconference call just one hour before FFA officially announced the deal.
One angry source texted The Australian saying: “The deal stinks. It is amateur hour. My kids could have done a better deal.”
Another source suggested it was a far from happy discussion with FFA yesterday. “Let’s just say one side of the table was happy, the other wasn’t.”
The clubs have a number of concerns, notably the cash component of the deal and how much of it is contra.
The recently formed Australian Professional Football Clubs Association, which represents the A-League clubs, issued a statement after the announcement.
“APFCA members received a briefing today from Steven Lowy and David Gallop on the FFA broadcast rights sale to Fox. Regrettably, the APFCA have not been directly involved in the negotiations and therefore are not in a position to comment on the outcomes,” the statement read.
“In the interest of Australian football at large, the focus of the APFCA remains on the viability of the clubs and the league and therefore on seeking appropriate distribution of the revenues that the A-League generates.
“Following the announcement of the broadcast rights sale, the APFCA has sought immediate assurances from FFA regarding the future distributions and associated financial models required to ensure the sustainable financial health of the league and its clubs.”
Gallop, who said the Fox deal was more than double the existing broadcast deal “on a like-for-like basis”, confirmed the head body had spoken with the owners yesterday.
“We told them we would work quickly to come up with a funding and distribution model that reflects their investment. We acknowledged we have a responsibility to other parts of the game,” Gallop said.
“But there is no doubt this will be an increase of some significance for the A-League clubs.
“We can’t set a level today, but we are confident we can move quickly over the next few months to ensure a significant increase for clubs.”
Gallop said FFA hoped to sort out a free-to-air component, plus radio and digital rights, some time in the new year. The head body is waiting for cricket’s broadcast rights to be determined first.
That will hopefully result in a Saturday game being shown live on FTA. Gallop said there had been interest from the commercial television channels, though it has been reported by website DeciderTV that the Nine Network is not interested.
Gallop confirmed that if a free-to-air deal did not eventuate, then the fifth game would revert to Fox Sports, which will fork out extra money.
The Australian understands the figure is around $3m and that, theoretically, Fox could sell that game to networks for significantly less than the $10m to $15m FFA would like to get for it.
Coast Football Ramble
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That's the problem with our trolling and joking, we get quoted when people take it seriously.
Holy
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It wasn't taken too seriously, thus my comment "read into that what you will".That's the problem with our trolling and joking, we get quoted when people take it seriously.
Great job by the way boys, love your regular updates with Shaun
@JoyfulPenguin any chance you can post links to these articles when copying them over as well? Just so I know where they're from
JoyfulPenguin
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Will do@JoyfulPenguin any chance you can post links to these articles when copying them over as well? Just so I know where they're from
JoyfulPenguin
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Less involvement from Harry Redknapp:
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/12/22/definitely-no-aussie-sun-tan-redknapp
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/12/22/definitely-no-aussie-sun-tan-redknapp
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