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AFC Champions League 2013

Gratis

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oh I enjoyed watching that, awesome game! as usual nearly paid for not converting dominance and chances but that resounding 2nd goal was quality. deserved to win and may make next round yet. sounds like it'll be a fairly different team going to China but hopefully will still do the job
 

tsd

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Replay shows that the hand ball in the penalty area about 5min in was probably deliberate, wouldn't that have made for an interesting night!

Mcbreens miss has to go down as the worst mariners miss to date, open goal standing 2m out, he is gunna hate seeing that back.

The most vocal the western stand has been in a while as well. Loved the chant hijacking and a solid mariners 3clap after the game for the players was a nice touch
 

midfielder

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If Trent does not make the next Socceroo camp then OH should be sacked...

Tho it was the best we have played in a long time...

My top three

weeMac, Trent, Bernie
 

Forum Phoenix

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OH should be sacked regardless. Once he played eight defensive players against the might of Hong kong he lost me forever. And he won't select TS. He will select Jade North, despite any number of other players surely being in front of him. I like Archie T, but if it is "skill" not age that matters, how the hell has he done enough to keep being selected, despite not even being in the top ten goal scorers in our league while another Australian striker wins the golden boot scoring nearly three times as many goals as him over the season. All the while never getting injured and having a huge work rate.

Alex Brosque, has at best in the HAL managed half the number of goals DM just scored this season. Yet keeps being selected.

Meanwhile in a team that lacks creativity, he keeps Australia's undoubtedly most promising playmaker for the next generation of Australian football, Tommy, on the bench even when the team is playing absolutely dire. Then blasts and blames the young players, when he has an all but has retirement village FC out on the park.


Sooo..... about those Mariners. Great and important win. Clearly the better side, though as ever we almost managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Surely our luck must change one day and we will cruise through the semis, blitz the GF, ass our way through to the final of ACL, and then win the bloody lot.

Sterj...

He is not a "bad" player in truth, yet he is clearly our worst. And it hurts us. He offers nothing defensively. And very rarely does he offer anything independently creative, and rarely succeeds in doing what he sets out to do when he does, excepting only the more basic of passes. His positioning and runs are decent I think. Yet he is too slow to capitalise. He is not strong, physical or passionate enough to impose himself that way. And he lacks the work rate of even a much older striker in Mc Breen. All I really see him offering is calm and experience, which is not without merit, but it is simply not enough for me. We look much better with Olly, Duke or Fitzgerald on instead. And I'd probably throw caceres, and perhaps based on other peoples thoughts of last game even Mc'Donald in there too.

Why no second and third subs tonight when we there was the opportunity to kill of the last few vulnerable minutes? Bizarre no?

This makes me feel that Arnie's head has been just about done in by our not winning games we should and the plate itself despite being the better team. It can't be about fitness and preserving players with only a few minutes left as some suggested. He has to have been scared to make a change and have something go wrong doesn't he?

Re crowds, these games MUST be marketed, the FFA needs to step up. Clubs are already taking a loss just to compete. You can't truly expect them to throw more money at them.

A suggestion to the bay... For ACL games, please seriously consider coming up into the western stand with everyone else. Tonight you would have generated and received a lot of vocal and valuable active support. You would also have helped to educate the crowd and maybe garner some new members.

There are a lot of people willing to get in on the act. Three clap proves it. But it just won't happen till people feel more comfortable, and that just won't happen without greater familiarity and exposure. I think you guys would be amazed at the amount of good you could do if you positioned yourself up there for a game or two. Indeed I believe the traditional bay 16 positioning is probably costing you a lot more than you realise. And I for one would love to see that change. Because you deserve it.

Best

FP
 

Jesus

Jesus
I have to disagree with you on Sterj FP.

I thought he was below par against heart, but tonight I easily thought that if Arnie decided, which he didnt, to make a change upfront it would be #2 instead of sterj, despite his top marksman award.

Danny was off, and has been fairly off for the later half of the season, Sterj did what he had to, the old Viduka "foil" roll. He did it well generally. Well enough to stay on for sure

As the striker he also was not expected to defend as was Danny I presume for most of it until we scored
 

Forum Phoenix

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Mmm, have to agree to disagree then. For mine he was slow to press, as ever, was two yards too slow when he had the ball in a meaningful position, and had me crying inside it wsn't Duke or BErnie on the ball instead, his one clear shot he was off target with. He never beat his man one on one and butchered one of our best three on two positions in a vital part of the game when were tied up at one - one.

Anyhow, that''s football I guess, different opinions, but for mine, age and the pace of the league has passed him by.
 

Stoxxo

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On the crowd its dissapointing however we look at it, rain hail or shine, midweek, traffic etc, 2500 is really not on.
Either radio tv and newspaper advertising is too much of a financial burden on the club for ACL games or its not a priority for them at this time.

I would gladly spend a day delivering cheap junk mail advertising free for the club for ACL games, between 10 or so of us we could cover half the Coast in a few days prior to games.

Majority of fairweather fans would have not known the game was even on, and its been the case every game in this ACL campaign. The ACL is a financial burden on the club yet they do little to ease the pain. Rant over....

Mikey is our best player, we dont have anyone else near the technical level he is at, damn i love him!
Great to see Tesco get his first!
Matty saved our bacon with a few great saves
Danny.... how oh the hell how you miss that from 3 yards out o_O
Pedj decent strike but lucky goal, keeper would be spewing he let it in.
All in all a good performance, puts us in a good position for progressing through the group.
 

Roy Law

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Chinese Takeaway - nothing

What a night! Great attacking football from the Mariners, edge of the seat drama, and a brilliant winning goal. I was quite breathless by the end of it.
When Rose headed the ball against his own post and Ryan knocked it over his goal line I cursed the Mariners’ vulnerability to the dead ball in the ACL. Not again! I couldn’t believe it. And then that pocket genius Michael McGlinchey produced a move of devastating skill and Sainsbury headed the winner. What a great moment!
The Mariners were unlucky not to get off to a flyer when the referee missed a blatant handball – where’s a video replay when you need one? I was surprised by the quality of Guizhou as both sides in that first half on a wet track gave a good account of themselves. I was enjoying the game; the quality of football was good and the contest, too.
Sterjovski shot wide after a pass from McBreen; Mat Ryan somehow produced a miracle to stop Muslimovic and Bernie brilliantly set up McGlinchey but his header was wide. 0-0 at the break but the Mariners were definitely lifting the tempo.

Pedj Bojic lit up the stadium with a terrific goal, cutting in from the right and unleashing a left-foot bomb; and he meant it, too. The Mariners were playing some superb attacking football, great sharp interpassing, sweeping forward at pace, playing with width, looking for the second goal. A move of the highest quality starting deep in defence saw McGlinchey release Rose whose cross was perfectly placed for Bernie at the far post to set up McBreen for a tap in. But the big man, showing that even his good leg is only for standing on [sic], skied the chance over the top. It would have been a goal for the coaching manual. Professor Brian Cox might be able to explain the physics of the miss or perhaps it was just McBreen showing that Pedj isn’t the only one with bi-polar tendencies.
Whatever the reason we were left cursing when Guizhou got the equaliser off the unfortunate Ryan. To be fair, they had been making a game of it: Ryan, reminding us just how good he is, producing a miraculous double save to deny them which was matched minutes later by a double save from the Chinese keeper – thwarting the impressive Ibini and then Sterjovski.
The Mariners weren’t to be denied however, and in was McGlinchey, leaving the defender for dead and placing the cross on Sainsbury’s head, who won the game.

The Mariners swarming pressing defence was outstanding, the movement of the ball in the second half sharp and full of attacking threat, and their strength of character came through at the end.

Ryan was superb, the double save and the controlling on the chest of a long high ball highlights of his work; Bernie was almost unstoppable, his pace, invention and confidence regularly having defenders on the back foot; Pedj was Pedj, with a brilliant goal; Rose got forward regularly in support but my best, in a team performance, was McGlinchey, who ran and ran, and ran the show.




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12th player

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It was pleasing to see GA's more attacking tactical approach. We didn't sit back and wait for them to come at us like in previous ACL games. We took charge and we were always in command. If he had done the same against the koreans we would now be in the next round. We must put emphasis and improve our finishing. We wasted a lot of clear scoring chances that could have finished the game off in the first half.Imo Mile can't play for 90 mins.We have good options to replace him at any given time. Well done everyone and hopefully GA will implement the same approach for the game in China. This Ghizou team is not better than the CCM, not even when we'll be making so many changes.I'm confident we'll secure a next round spot on Tuesday.
 

BrisRecky

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
yep...once again we shoulda had a 1/2 dozen...but two was enough, Matty Ryan had his magnets in his gloves last night, two great scrambling saves..BERNIE what were you thinking?....and how about the chinese coach ..whinging and whining and jumping up and down about the scoreboard going to black and distracting his players, he wanted to pull the pin on the game...tell you what, Yu Suk, or whatever your name was...boil ya skull....Pedj..what can I say, cracker goal...upwards and onwards
 

dibo

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we didn't sit back in the suwon game either, but we didn't go hell for leather like we did after 1-0 last night and for the wanderers game (which frankly I think is the way we do best at home). our defence soaks counterattacks well, so we can get very high up the park and try to play through them.

getting high and in their faces also leaves lots of room for release balls back to recycle and change the point of attack (much as it seemed to piss people off last night; constant shouts of "kick it forward" etc...).

in the first half our movement was inadequate to get their lines out of shape - they played two tight and disciplined banks of four and we were too static. in the second half we got between the lines much more effectively because we got runners moving in all directions, forced their defenders to make decisions and exposed gaps. we were particularly effective down the flanks because the increased movement in the middle left them with openings out wide.
 

priorpeter

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A suggestion to the bay... For ACL games, please seriously consider coming up into the western stand with everyone else. Tonight you would have generated and received a lot of vocal and valuable active support. You would also have helped to educate the crowd and maybe garner some new members.

There are a lot of people willing to get in on the act. Three clap proves it. But it just won't happen till people feel more comfortable, and that just won't happen without greater familiarity and exposure. I think you guys would be amazed at the amount of good you could do if you positioned yourself up there for a game or two. Indeed I believe the traditional bay 16 positioning is probably costing you a lot more than you realise. And I for one would love to see that change. Because you deserve it.

I love the suggestion and TBH almost totally agree. Roof over us would be awesome too, in terms of amplifying the sound. It's a far better idea than song sheets or even having 'plants' in certain bays to amp people up IMO.

There may be some issues with security etc as Bay 16 is the designated 'Active Support Bay' and I don't know how keen they would be on having us near the 'family' areas etc.

I'll have a word with the club and a couple of YA peeps and see what we can do for next time.

Gutted I couldn't be at this one. f**king man-flu is kicking my arse. Almost got there as well.

As always, love your posts mate.
 

MrCelery

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Sainsbury is looking more like a young Dutchy every week. That headed goal would have made Patrick proud.

Great effort all round.

Glad Danny is using up all his f**kups before the Finals. I expect him to be on target from here on in.

The Glinch is definitely the best player in the A-League at the moment. Even better than Del Piero.
 

MrCelery

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snip...

A suggestion to the bay... For ACL games, please seriously consider coming up into the western stand with everyone else. Tonight you would have generated and received a lot of vocal and valuable active support. You would also have helped to educate the crowd and maybe garner some new members.

There are a lot of people willing to get in on the act. Three clap proves it. But it just won't happen till people feel more comfortable, and that just won't happen without greater familiarity and exposure. I think you guys would be amazed at the amount of good you could do if you positioned yourself up there for a game or two. Indeed I believe the traditional bay 16 positioning is probably costing you a lot more than you realise. And I for one would love to see that change. Because you deserve it.

Best

FP

I saw quite a few Bay 16 regulars at the game last night that didn't stand behind the goals. So they were obviously in the main stand. It might have had something to do with the number of 'Mariners, clap, clap, clap' chants coming from the stand. But our chanting was probably due more to the embarrassing reality that the Chinese support were owning us with their singing. It was great to see them there. Bay 16 was the worst I've ever seen it, not that the few people there didn't try hard.

Our teams deserves so, so, so much more.
 

tsd

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and the penalty miss curse has been passed on to the blue wings, who missed 3 in their game last night
 

bikinigirl

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and the penalty miss curse has been passed on to the blue wings, who missed 3 in their game last night

. which would have made the scoreline 5-6 if they had made them

. you'd reckon even macca could score against that sort of defence ;) ... we are definitely a chance to proceed beyond the group stage

. geez ... imagine us and suwon in a shootout :oops:
 

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