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A-League Expansion

Kanagawa

Member
A-League expansion hits a financial snag

Michael Cockerill
March 7, 2008

PLANS for the A-League to expand to 10 teams for next season are likely to be put on hold, with Gold Coast and North Queensland told to wait another year.

A fortnight after the Football Federation Australia board provisionally granted licences for both franchises to join the league for 2008-09, it's now likely they will have to wait until the 2009-10 season. While the FFA remains committed to creating a 12- or 14-team league, it doesn't want to risk the viability of the competition, and it's believed there are lingering doubts about the financial readiness of North Queensland and Gold Coast for next season.

Last week, North Queensland imploded following a split in the ranks, and Melbourne businesswoman Melissa Fischer-Massa, the club's main backer, yesterday formally advised the FFA that while she still wanted the licence on her own, she now preferred to join the league in 2009. She is believed to have handed over the necessary $6 million in cash, bank guarantees and term deposits, and told the FFA she will start employing staff within a month if she is given the green light.

The effective withdrawal of the Townsville team for next season has left Gold Coast Galaxy vulnerable, with the FFA increasingly reluctant to operate a nine-team league with a bye. Gold Coast have also had to go the extra yard to convince the FFA of their financial model, while there has been some concerns about their planned lease agreement with Skilled Stadium. It's understood the Galaxy are now more willing to wait until 2009 - although they have also indicated they are prepared to play in 2008 if required.

FFA chief executive Ben Buckley last night refused to confirm that expansion had been put on hold, saying: "I have a proposal from Gold Coast in front of me, I have a proposal from Townsville in front of me, we are reviewing both proposals, and we will make a final deliberation in the next few days."

The outcome, however, seems certain to be a delay - although the overall expansion timetable might actually be fast-tracked with a Wollongong-based team and either a second Sydney or Melbourne side joining the league in 2009 along with Gold Coast and North Queensland.

In transfer news, fringe Socceroos winger Ahmad Elrich is poised to join minor premiers Central Coast Mariners after rejecting offers from Newcastle Jets and Adelaide United.




Oh dear, I was looking forward to watching an extra game a week  :( and even more disappointing is that we might be signing A.Elrich. If we do sign him I sure hope he plays better than he did for Wellington  :-\
 

greenpoint

Well-Known Member
thanman said:
Know a few people who like soccer in that crazy state.
They either follow us.
Or MV.

I remember back in October 2006, I noticed a huge crowd of Tasmanian junior reps at the Australia v Bahrain match in Sydney. Then, two nights later, they turned up at Bluetongue and witnessed our 3-1 win over the Flying Circus. I spoke with one of the rep managers and he was confident Tassie could support an A-League club ...
 

Tassiemariner

Well-Known Member
greenpoint said:
thanman said:
Know a few people who like soccer in that crazy state.
They either follow us.
Or MV.

I remember back in October 2006, I noticed a huge crowd of Tasmanian junior reps at the Australia v Bahrain match in Sydney. Then, two nights later, they turned up at Bluetongue and witnessed our 3-1 win over the Flying Circus. I spoke with one of the rep managers and he was confident Tassie could support an A-League club ...
I'm not sure if this was the same incident but in know our Under 15 and Under 17 state girls team watched a Mariners match before they went to National Champs in Coffs Harbour about the same time.
Good to see the tassie team was recognised up there anyway.
 

coast

Well-Known Member
Has the expansion been finalised either way yet? Would love an extra 4 games per season, it's way too short atm.
 

graaant

Well-Known Member
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/galaxy-and-thunder-on-hold-107935/

No expansion. f**kin' FFA useless bastards.
 

Gav...

Well-Known Member
i pretty sure there is a meeting on friday about it and the thunder is trying to get more support because the galaxy is already to come into the league next year
 

Kanagawa

Member
Yep there's still a chance for North Queensland to make it in apparently, fingers crossed, but I wouldn't hold your breath 

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/71663,north-queenslands-late-surge.aspx
 

bathurstmariner

Well-Known Member
From 442:

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/71730,mckinna-we-need-answers.aspx

McKinna: We Need Answers

Mar 10 2008 18:53

THE issue of A-League expansion is giving Lawrie McKinna a major headache and the Central Coast Mariners boss is desperate for a decision from the FFA.
While the Gold Coast Galaxy and North Queensland Thunder wait to learn their respective fates, it seems those already present at the A-League party arent sleeping too well either.

McKinna has had a topsy turvy couple of weeks with the ongoing Danny Vukovic affair, the departure of John Aloisi and the boost of Ahmad Elrichs capture.

The dust has barely settled on last season but already plans are being put in place for next year or at least they should be.

Not knowing when season four will start is proving a pain when it comes to putting together schedules for pre-season trips and training sessions.

As it stands, the admission of one or either of the new franchises would probably see an earlier start to the A-League. McKinna just hopes a final decision is reached soon.

He told au.fourfourtwo.com: Its a nightmare to be honest.

"Were hoping to get away for a trip and getting back to full training in May. But you need to know how and when things are scheduled to happen. Obviously we have the Pre-Season Cup and there are other games you like to organise.

Its very difficult to put everything into place when youre not sure when the season will start and who you are playing against.

But whether the Galaxy and/or the Thunder are admitted to the A-League this year or next, McKinna is among those embracing expansion.

He said: We need to play more games, simple as that. Getting two more teams in would push us in the right direction, taking the season to 27 matches. Hopefully, it will be sorted out.
 
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soccersensei

Guest
Dwight mentioned Galaxy or at least he said gold coast when I heard him interviewed re clubs interested in him... Sydney's out for him obviously, and i can see how the Gold coast would have been a match for him ;D Soooo..... maybe awaiting the "to be or not to be" of Galaxy could be another significant reason why Lawrie wants to know. They had said two new signings to be announced for today, and wasn't GC inclusion initially going to be ruled on today...

Time will tell, but speculations fun...
 

Gav...

Well-Known Member
Well there is not going to be an expansion

Fox Sports:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23353332-5000940,00.html?from=public_rss

At the bottom of the article....

Meanwhile, Football Federation Australia will officially announce on Tuesday that the A-League will remain an eight-team format next season.

FFA will meet the proposed new clubs Gold Coast Galaxy and Northern Thunder to inform them of the decision. It is expected both clubs will be included in a 10-team competition for the 2009-2010 season with another two teams to be included the following season.
 

coast

Well-Known Member
That is a let down, season really needs to go for longer. 2010-2011 will be awsome with a 12 team comp, though i think the ladder wont be as condensed as it was last season, some team's may be push-over's.
 

bathurstmariner

Well-Known Member
No Thunder or Galaxy next season.

From foxsports.com.au

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23358517-23215,00.html

Gold Coast, Townsville entry delayed

March 11

2008 FOOTBALL Federation Australia (FFA) has delayed the entry into the A-League of the Townsville and Gold Coast clubs.

FFA chief executive Ben Buckley said the decision to postpone expansion was made "in the best interests of the competition".

The Townsville-based Northern Thunder and Gold Coast Galaxy will now be considered for 2009-2010 A-League entry.

"We will be continuing discussions with the consortia on the basis of a successful entry in to the A-League in season five," Buckley said.

"Expansion of the A-League is a critical issue to the continuing evolution and growth of football.

"We stated last month that our approach to expansion has to be both prudent and planned - and it is."

The Thunder and Galaxy initially had until last Friday to meet criteria set by FFA after being granted provisional A-League licences for 2008-09.

But the Thunder hit a major hurdle after their major backer - millionaire businesswoman Millissa Fischer - sensationally left last week to establish a rival north Queensland A-League bid.

Buckley said that both teams would benefit from the additional time to finalise some critical arrangements such as long term stadium agreements.

Buckley reiterated that the A-League had the capacity to be at least a 12 team competition.
 

kepo

Well-Known Member
Good that they use there brains not there pockets.
Way too early expanding for v4. v5 maybe, ideally v6
Good to see that FFA finally did something for the benifit of the game :O
 

fish

Well-Known Member
Im not to sure if they DID do the right thing.Wouldnt the preferred option to have been to actually make sure both bids were READY in every sense then make the decision??
I think this will scare off prospective corporate interest give the relevant NRL clubs more opportunity to attack the corporate sector that has been involved who obviously have $$
 
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soccersensei

Guest
James out of all the supporters of opposing teams who come on here, i've found you and your posts to be of genuine worth and enjoyment. Could you expand on your reasoning in this regard though, as I'd be interested to hear why you are so sure. For myself I was really looking forward to an expanded league next season and felt it would help lift the profile and a lot of other positive aspects, so am quite disappointed. Even a nine team league
with a bye was preferable to me...
 

marinersman

Well-Known Member
I would have loved more rounds but I get the feeling that Thunder counted against Galaxy being admitted this year.

I'm not sure either club was really ready though.

Ultimately it may prove to be the right decision. It'll give clubs more time to really be ready and now they have 12 more months to plan, especially signing players.
 

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