The Salt Mine: Dig Deep, Stay Salty

[sydmariner]

Climate change is a hoax isn’t it?.

 

[Ironbark]

Following a TC, jeeez must be climate change eh? Spare me

For some reason, unlike the best ways to treat leukaemia or how best to scale quantum computing, people feel qualified to have sure opinions on climate science which is every bit as complex.

There'd be no arguments over the science behind it if it weren't politicised. The status quo is profitable to the establishment, so the same strategies big tobacco threw at keeping smoking viable has been used by the fossil fuel industry.

The science is not in doubt and hasn't been for a long time. The same science that brings you your phone, air travel and modern medical treatments.

While there have been cyclones this far south in the past (although rare) this one was without doubt driven by a changing climate - and specifically the several degrees average above normal sea temperatures that have been persistent for a few years now. Ocean temperate is a key driver.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Following a TC, jeeez must be climate change eh? Spare me

Yes.

 

[Ironbark]

Just for reference

 

[Hello Sailor]

Great list, the only point I'd like clarified is the one about most new unemployment claims; does this include the presidencies of Hoover and Roosevelt in the Depression? Beating that is a hell of an achievement.

 

[true believer]

that's 1.25 billion is oz dollars

 

[true believer]

Following a TC, jeeez must be climate change eh? Spare me

umm guy the believes bleach is a cure for covid
but a drop of 2 million square km's in arctic seas ice is not proof of warming

fauci killed puppies

Charctic Interactive Sea Ice Graph

How to use CharcticDeveloped at NSIDC with support from NASA, the Charctic Interactive Sea Ice Graph enables users to more easily access and explore the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Ad

nsidc.org

 

[FFC Mariner]

In Brick Lane (London) over the weekend. That grubby little git Farage is a private. Whoever does these is so clever, they look like genuine Nazis.
Oh wait.

 

[true believer]

bleach is the cure for covid , fauci killed puppies

 

[FFC Mariner]

bleach is the cure for covid , fauci killed puppies

Climate change is a hoax you say?

 

[true believer]

homophobia 101 , closet queens and fundamentalist christians

just brilliant

 

[Jerem]

285 people died to measles in 2024 in the USA, a population of 340 million.

Not a big deal.

pretty sure it’s a big deal to 285+

 

[Jerem]

For some reason, unlike the best ways to treat leukaemia or how best to scale quantum computing, people feel qualified to have sure opinions on climate science which is every bit as complex.

There'd be no arguments over the science behind it if it weren't politicised. The status quo is profitable to the establishment, so the same strategies big tobacco threw at keeping smoking viable has been used by the fossil fuel industry.

The science is not in doubt and hasn't been for a long time. The same science that brings you your phone, air travel and modern medical treatments.

While there have been cyclones this far south in the past (although rare) this one was without doubt driven by a changing climate - and specifically the several degrees average above normal sea temperatures that have been persistent for a few years now. Ocean temperate is a key driver.

I have difficulty with that. Climates are always changing, hence the need to claim that title and change it from “global warming “. The science is only based on a couple of hundred, maybe thousand years, but the planet is billions of years old. Don’t mind reducing emissions, but how bout we do it by reducing our “need” for new and cheap. Not reproducing our insatiable capacity to burn through resources with a shinier advertisement

 

[true believer]

I have difficulty with that. Climates are always changing, hence the need to claim that title and change it from “global warming “. The science is only based on a couple of hundred, maybe thousand years, but the planet is billions of years old. Don’t mind reducing emissions, but how bout we do it by reducing our “need” for new and cheap. Not reproducing our insatiable capacity to burn through resources with a shinier advertisement

utter rubbish records go back billions of years .once you get to ice cores then their pretty accurate .
the resent records are unprecedented . despite koch funded lies .

Annual temperature anomalies relative to the pre-industrial period

The difference in average land-sea surface temperature compared to the 1861-1890 mean, in degrees Celsius.

ourworldindata.org

Current & Historical Global Temperature Graph

See how global temperatures are climbing with this fully interactive graph of the past 800,000 years. A project by the 2 Degrees Institute.

www.temperaturerecord.org

https://www.savethesound.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Varekamp-chart-1-1024x517.png

 

[Ozhammer]

umm guy the believes bleach is a cure for covid
but a drop of 2 million square km's in arctic seas ice is not proof of warming

fauci killed puppies

Charctic Interactive Sea Ice Graph

How to use CharcticDeveloped at NSIDC with support from NASA, the Charctic Interactive Sea Ice Graph enables users to more easily access and explore the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Ad

nsidc.org

Man you are some kind of ‘special’ (and I don’t mean in a good way) aren’t you TB?

You post a photo of damage to a GC beach immediately after a TC, which is not any indication of any climatic change in isolation and somehow then go on to sling another childish insult at me when I point that out but that’s your normal MO, so I shouldn’t be surprised.

Records actually show that there have been fewer and less severe cyclonic events since the 80’s but that doesn’t fit the narrative, so you deflect by slating me from another angle, how utterly childish.

Why don’t you try debating an issue instead of posting puerile personal barbs you moron.

 

[Ironbark]

I have difficulty with that. Climates are always changing, hence the need to claim that title and change it from “global warming “. The science is only based on a couple of hundred, maybe thousand years, but the planet is billions of years old. Don’t mind reducing emissions, but how bout we do it by reducing our “need” for new and cheap. Not reproducing our insatiable capacity to burn through resources with a shinier advertisement

Completely agree with the need to reduce relentless, and regularly fairly redundant, consumerism

 

[marinermick]

Man you are some kind of ‘special’ (and I don’t mean in a good way) aren’t you TB?

You post a photo of damage to a GC beach immediately after a TC, which is not any indication of any climatic change in isolation and somehow then go on to sling another childish insult at me when I point that out but that’s your normal MO, so I shouldn’t be surprised.

Records actually show that there have been fewer and less severe cyclonic events since the 80’s but that doesn’t fit the narrative, so you deflect by slating me from another angle, how utterly childish.

Why don’t you try debating an issue instead of posting puerile personal barbs you moron.

Hey Mark. Can you link to some evidence supporting what you are claiming here? I am interested in reading this.

 

[Spacks]

Hey Mark. Can you link to some evidence supporting what you are claiming here? I am interested in reading this.

"Research has shown a statistically-significant downward trend in the annual number of tropical cyclones in the Australian region over the period extending from 1981/82 to 2017/18"

Here are seven things to know about tropical cyclones

We’ve got some answers to a few questions you may have about cyclones.

www.csiro.au

 

[marinermick]

"Research has shown a statistically-significant downward trend in the annual number of tropical cyclones in the Australian region over the period extending from 1981/82 to 2017/18"

Here are seven things to know about tropical cyclones

We’ve got some answers to a few questions you may have about cyclones.

www.csiro.au

Cheers for that. So OzHammer was half right - less cyclones but the ones that come are more severe with more rainfall.

Nothing that really disputes what True Believer was posting.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Cheers for that. So OzHammer was half right - less cyclones but the ones that come are more severe with more rainfall.

Nothing that really disputes what True Believer was posting.

So the climate, is, changing you say?

Interesting how much climate change frightens people into grasping at anything that allows them to deny reality - maybe thats what drove/drives flat earthers or the luddites back in the day.

The disinformation is similar to the tactics used by the tobacco lobby and is now being used by the gambling lobby and Duttons backers