FFC Mariner
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You guys deserved the 3points tonight for your intensity.
Another dreadful crowd
Another dreadful crowd
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FFC Mariner
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p-diddy said:
LOL moment of the evening?
About 20 mins to go and I am standing next to a local having a smoke. He was convinced that CCM would nick it,I was equally sure we wouldnt (you got the "meh" Mariners tonight).
p-diddy
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My post was in reference to the shit crowd, btw. Wasn't trying to rub the loss in.
I had a fiver on Jets winning 2-1. Was not confident of getting the result, just expected us to f**k ourselves in the arse again. Definitely thought the you guys would find a goal, or 2, in the 2nd half.
I had a fiver on Jets winning 2-1. Was not confident of getting the result, just expected us to f**k ourselves in the arse again. Definitely thought the you guys would find a goal, or 2, in the 2nd half.
Not Aloi$i FC
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FFC Mariner said:
He openly ripped into a young goalkeeper for a mistake last week, didn't he? Just about the last thing you want to be doing. Goalkeepers are maligned enough as it is without coaches telling them off IN PUBLIC ...
The players have probably also realised by now, along with the rest of us, that Wanko just talks shit all the time.
FFC Mariner
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Apparently Ljubo has lost it again.
Waiting for another quality Ljubo rant in the media
Waiting for another quality Ljubo rant in the media
FFC Mariner
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Not what Branko said
Blackadder
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Well Ljubo is a heel so could explain it 
FFC Mariner
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Look what we missed?
Scum are stone motherless last again.
2nd spoon coming up
Scum are stone motherless last again.
2nd spoon coming up
Part_Timer
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they could finish above us and i wouldnt care if we had beaten them every time in the season...
marinermick
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Con dubs ACL cash black hole
BY ROBERT DILLON
6/11/2009
JETS owner Con Constantine queried yesterday whether the Asian Champions League was a futile exercise as he warned Newcastle players not to expect any remuneration for their success in this year's tournament.
Jets players have been waiting since May, when they threatened to strike, to find out how much they would earn in match payments and win bonuses from the ACL, in which they played seven games and made it through to the round of 16.
But their hopes that Football Federation Australia and the Professional Footballers Association, who represent all A-League players, would be able to negotiate an ACL Collective Bargaining Agreement were dashed recently when talks reached a stalemate.
As revealed in The Herald this week, FFA tabled a proposal that players at A-League clubs would earn nothing additional unless their teams reached the ACL semi-finals, whereby they would share 30 per cent of the prizemoney for that game.
PFA chief executive Brendan Schwab described the FFA offer, which would apply retrospectively to Newcastle and Central Coast Mariners, as unacceptable.
Schwab indicated the next move could be for the PFA and players to negotiate with management on a club-by-club basis.
But Constantine indicated yesterday he would be in no mood to further recompense his players for their ACL efforts, having lost $200,000 on the tournament.
"When your boss gives you a contract, it is for 52 weeks in the year," Constantine said.
"You get four weeks off, and 48 you work. We pay our players a full year. Everyone out there wants an extra dollar, but the bottom line is there are no extra dollars coming in for the clubs.
"There's no money at the moment. Every club at the moment is losing money.
"Clubs are drowning."
Constantine said "if the clubs are making money, we don't mind giving some of it out", but he estimated he had lost $50,000 on each of Newcastle's four away ACL games.
Given that clubs are finding the ACL a costly exercise and players appear unlikely to be financially rewarded for extra games, Constantine said it was debatable whether the ACL was worth the effort.
"In five years or 10 years down the track things might change," Constantine said.
"But I can assure you that every club that has been there [in the ACL] has lost mega dollars . . . unfortunately because we're under the guidance of the FFA, we've got to be there. But I tell you, there's not one [A-League club] that made any money.
"Not one. They all lost. So what is the purpose?"
The winner of this year's ACL final will pocket $US1.5 million ($1.65 million), but Constantine said it was virtually impossible for Australian clubs to challenge for the ultimate prize.
"We have a salary cap of $2 million and some of the Asian clubs spend $30 million," he said.
"How can we compete?"
Constantine said he had been happy to abide by whatever payment structure PFA and FFA managed to broker for ACL payments.
He said the two bodies needed to "compromise" and that the matter was out of his hands.
"We've been waiting for FFA and PFA to strike a deal that is good for every club in Australia," Constantine said.
"Having said that, as the clubs are all losing money, how can the PFA justify asking for the players to be paid more?"
BY ROBERT DILLON
6/11/2009
JETS owner Con Constantine queried yesterday whether the Asian Champions League was a futile exercise as he warned Newcastle players not to expect any remuneration for their success in this year's tournament.
Jets players have been waiting since May, when they threatened to strike, to find out how much they would earn in match payments and win bonuses from the ACL, in which they played seven games and made it through to the round of 16.
But their hopes that Football Federation Australia and the Professional Footballers Association, who represent all A-League players, would be able to negotiate an ACL Collective Bargaining Agreement were dashed recently when talks reached a stalemate.
As revealed in The Herald this week, FFA tabled a proposal that players at A-League clubs would earn nothing additional unless their teams reached the ACL semi-finals, whereby they would share 30 per cent of the prizemoney for that game.
PFA chief executive Brendan Schwab described the FFA offer, which would apply retrospectively to Newcastle and Central Coast Mariners, as unacceptable.
Schwab indicated the next move could be for the PFA and players to negotiate with management on a club-by-club basis.
But Constantine indicated yesterday he would be in no mood to further recompense his players for their ACL efforts, having lost $200,000 on the tournament.
"When your boss gives you a contract, it is for 52 weeks in the year," Constantine said.
"You get four weeks off, and 48 you work. We pay our players a full year. Everyone out there wants an extra dollar, but the bottom line is there are no extra dollars coming in for the clubs.
"There's no money at the moment. Every club at the moment is losing money.
"Clubs are drowning."
Constantine said "if the clubs are making money, we don't mind giving some of it out", but he estimated he had lost $50,000 on each of Newcastle's four away ACL games.
Given that clubs are finding the ACL a costly exercise and players appear unlikely to be financially rewarded for extra games, Constantine said it was debatable whether the ACL was worth the effort.
"In five years or 10 years down the track things might change," Constantine said.
"But I can assure you that every club that has been there [in the ACL] has lost mega dollars . . . unfortunately because we're under the guidance of the FFA, we've got to be there. But I tell you, there's not one [A-League club] that made any money.
"Not one. They all lost. So what is the purpose?"
The winner of this year's ACL final will pocket $US1.5 million ($1.65 million), but Constantine said it was virtually impossible for Australian clubs to challenge for the ultimate prize.
"We have a salary cap of $2 million and some of the Asian clubs spend $30 million," he said.
"How can we compete?"
Constantine said he had been happy to abide by whatever payment structure PFA and FFA managed to broker for ACL payments.
He said the two bodies needed to "compromise" and that the matter was out of his hands.
"We've been waiting for FFA and PFA to strike a deal that is good for every club in Australia," Constantine said.
"Having said that, as the clubs are all losing money, how can the PFA justify asking for the players to be paid more?"
marinermick
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Tsatsimas rules out rumours Fabio victim of visa red tape
BY ROBERT DILLON
6/11/2009
RUMOURS continued to circulate yesterday that there was more to Fabio Vignaroli's non-appearance in Wellington than has been disclosed, but Jets chief executive John Tsatsimas dismissed such speculation as unfounded.
Vignaroli travelled on the team bus to Sydney airport on Monday but then returned to Newcastle instead of boarding the trans-Tasman flight.
Jets coach Branko Culina said after Wednesday night's 3-0 loss to the Phoenix that Vignaroli was declared fit before the team left Newcastle but ruled out with a calf injury in Sydney.
The unusual circumstances have met with disbelief in some quarters, and sources have told The Herald that Vignaroli had encountered visa issues at the airport.
Culina denied that, and Tsatsimas was adamant yesterday that Vignaroli was "rested" for fitness reasons alone.
"I've heard those rumours; they've been put to me," Tsatsimas said yesterday.
"Obviously I've seen the article in the paper.
"The fact of the matter, and I'll say this simply, is that the player's got a visa. If he didn't have a visa, he wouldn't have been able to buy a house, he wouldn't have been able to earn an income and he wouldn't have been registered by FFA [Football Federation Australia].
"If the player didn't have a visa, the tax office wouldn't take the tax that we paid for him."
Tsatsimas said the Jets took 17 players to Sydney by bus but "we were never going to take that many to Wellington".
When it was decided Vignaroli was not fit to fly, the Jets sent a driver to collect him.
"I've heard those rumours but . . . Fabio has been under an injury cloud for the past 10 days," Tsatsimas said. "He played last weekend and was struggling the day the team was going to leave.
"The player is injured, or had a niggle, but hopefully he will be right for Sunday.
"I've heard those stories, and it's a bit concerning that they are out there, but what can we do?"
Jets owner Con Constantine said: "If you listen to rumours and innuendos, you're going to get 10 different stories."
BY ROBERT DILLON
6/11/2009
RUMOURS continued to circulate yesterday that there was more to Fabio Vignaroli's non-appearance in Wellington than has been disclosed, but Jets chief executive John Tsatsimas dismissed such speculation as unfounded.
Vignaroli travelled on the team bus to Sydney airport on Monday but then returned to Newcastle instead of boarding the trans-Tasman flight.
Jets coach Branko Culina said after Wednesday night's 3-0 loss to the Phoenix that Vignaroli was declared fit before the team left Newcastle but ruled out with a calf injury in Sydney.
The unusual circumstances have met with disbelief in some quarters, and sources have told The Herald that Vignaroli had encountered visa issues at the airport.
Culina denied that, and Tsatsimas was adamant yesterday that Vignaroli was "rested" for fitness reasons alone.
"I've heard those rumours; they've been put to me," Tsatsimas said yesterday.
"Obviously I've seen the article in the paper.
"The fact of the matter, and I'll say this simply, is that the player's got a visa. If he didn't have a visa, he wouldn't have been able to buy a house, he wouldn't have been able to earn an income and he wouldn't have been registered by FFA [Football Federation Australia].
"If the player didn't have a visa, the tax office wouldn't take the tax that we paid for him."
Tsatsimas said the Jets took 17 players to Sydney by bus but "we were never going to take that many to Wellington".
When it was decided Vignaroli was not fit to fly, the Jets sent a driver to collect him.
"I've heard those rumours but . . . Fabio has been under an injury cloud for the past 10 days," Tsatsimas said. "He played last weekend and was struggling the day the team was going to leave.
"The player is injured, or had a niggle, but hopefully he will be right for Sunday.
"I've heard those stories, and it's a bit concerning that they are out there, but what can we do?"
Jets owner Con Constantine said: "If you listen to rumours and innuendos, you're going to get 10 different stories."
FFC Mariner
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Hmmmmmmm
As someone with a working Visa for Australia he would need a visa to go to NZ wouldnt he?
Likely that the Jest f**ked up and forgot this.
BTW, there is nothing to stop overseas residents buying property in Australia.
As someone with a working Visa for Australia he would need a visa to go to NZ wouldnt he?
Likely that the Jest f**ked up and forgot this.
BTW, there is nothing to stop overseas residents buying property in Australia.
midfielder
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Seems it does not want to leave Scumcastle
Marinerchick
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I can confirm this as it was on the news last night,
fck living in the shithole i live in i dnt get CC news
fck living in the shithole i live in i dnt get CC news
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