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RESERVED SEATING?????
- Thread starter BAD BULLZ
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Sean
Well-Known Member
i think us as the marinators are going good, we are loud and we're taking well to some new songs and trying things, but this reserved ticket/no concession thing has completely f**ked us over.
why cant these people come down to the front of the bay and fill the final two thirds of the bay which have people who sit and chat instead of supporting the team instead?
brennan said:
why cant these people come down to the front of the bay and fill the final two thirds of the bay which have people who sit and chat instead of supporting the team instead?
I think the Hassett article is quite fair and we'd do well to take on board that a story is being commissioned somewhere because it's been noticed that we're quiet. No use whinging or picking it apart (no one here has done that anyway). We should simply take it on board. We should also realise it's not the fault of those who are there, it's those who aren't there who make us quieter.
Some ideas have been floated. 'Move under roofing' - any move would likely divide our small number which we can't afford to do. 'Fill from the front' - nah. People want to see the game, or people want to be in their 15 or their 17. That's fine and again, we can't afford to divide. Rather than talk about drastic action, here's my 2c for a couple of practical suggestions short term.
Sing less but louder: When we score or we're winning, everyone rides the high and we're loud. In other moments, we rarely get everyone singing all together at once. Perhaps we should try to sing a few less songs through the night but go together, full volume, and longer, when we do?
Try new things: I think it can get a bit stale, maybe trying some new things, singing more funny bits and pieces would keep it fresh. Even if it's a stupid song that will only last one night, we should relax a little and give it a go.
Clap in the air: One any chance with clapping, we should all get our hands right up. It looks more effective from afar, and it helps keep us in time within The Bay. It also shows the crowd on the sides what we're doing and if we don't have the numbers with us right now, we could do worse than focus on getting the main stands more involved.
Some ideas have been floated. 'Move under roofing' - any move would likely divide our small number which we can't afford to do. 'Fill from the front' - nah. People want to see the game, or people want to be in their 15 or their 17. That's fine and again, we can't afford to divide. Rather than talk about drastic action, here's my 2c for a couple of practical suggestions short term.
Sing less but louder: When we score or we're winning, everyone rides the high and we're loud. In other moments, we rarely get everyone singing all together at once. Perhaps we should try to sing a few less songs through the night but go together, full volume, and longer, when we do?
Try new things: I think it can get a bit stale, maybe trying some new things, singing more funny bits and pieces would keep it fresh. Even if it's a stupid song that will only last one night, we should relax a little and give it a go.
Clap in the air: One any chance with clapping, we should all get our hands right up. It looks more effective from afar, and it helps keep us in time within The Bay. It also shows the crowd on the sides what we're doing and if we don't have the numbers with us right now, we could do worse than focus on getting the main stands more involved.
I like the idea of singing some more random 1night chants but often those become "offensive" and we get divided into the argument of what can and can not be said.
I think the reason everyone wanted to be in the reason the bay "was the place to be" was because it was soo random and spontanious it seemed like littrally anything could and would be said and it seemed to be fine with the family groups long as it wasnt repeated over and over again.
Now its got more expensive
We dont seem to get on tv or in the papers as much
People have sat there for 3 seasons had great times but now it seems more entertaining to actually watch the game then play in the bay this could have something to do with the quality of the league its getting more and more watchable every season people wanna see the new big names play and these kracker goals
etc
I think the reason everyone wanted to be in the reason the bay "was the place to be" was because it was soo random and spontanious it seemed like littrally anything could and would be said and it seemed to be fine with the family groups long as it wasnt repeated over and over again.
Now its got more expensive
We dont seem to get on tv or in the papers as much
People have sat there for 3 seasons had great times but now it seems more entertaining to actually watch the game then play in the bay this could have something to do with the quality of the league its getting more and more watchable every season people wanna see the new big names play and these kracker goals
etc
dibo
Well-Known Member
Jeff mentioned the flat price in his quotes, which I think is a factor a lot of the younger crew simply arent in with us. Where they are is not certain, and we had a lot of people who presumably bought tickets in Bay 16 and yet were intent on sitting through the match the other day
Id love to see if there was some way of working out why people either are or are not standing with us. Im talking about genuine information there are a lot of third and fourth and fifth hand accounts of why some people arent with us anymore. Itd be nice to know whats actually going on.
Do people think you have to be a Marinators member and dont want to or dont know how to become a member? Do people think it costs too much? Do people think were too family friendly, too offensive, too drunk, not drunk enough As were not the people who dont join in (apologies for appalling sentence construction) I dont think we can assume anything about what those peoples reasons are.
I get that some people have moved to the gold seats, some have moved elsewhere for other reasons that are often declared to be one thing or another, but wherever they are theyre not making noise or doing anything particularly noticeable were not talking about something of the likes of the SDC, SCC or Northern Element here.
I know that by and large those of us in the bay are dead set flogging themselves, Ive still got no voice today. Were audible but were not deafening. This is a simple numbers issue. If we had double the numbers, wed have double the noise. We have gone backwards but what we can do to turn this around is not obvious.
If we want to suss out how to improve what we do and how we can attract more numbers I think we need to look at what were doing and what other groups are doing to build. The Squadron have gone from a group our size to something much larger in the last two years while weve done the reverse maybe they have something we can learn from?
Id love to see if there was some way of working out why people either are or are not standing with us. Im talking about genuine information there are a lot of third and fourth and fifth hand accounts of why some people arent with us anymore. Itd be nice to know whats actually going on.
Do people think you have to be a Marinators member and dont want to or dont know how to become a member? Do people think it costs too much? Do people think were too family friendly, too offensive, too drunk, not drunk enough As were not the people who dont join in (apologies for appalling sentence construction) I dont think we can assume anything about what those peoples reasons are.
I get that some people have moved to the gold seats, some have moved elsewhere for other reasons that are often declared to be one thing or another, but wherever they are theyre not making noise or doing anything particularly noticeable were not talking about something of the likes of the SDC, SCC or Northern Element here.
I know that by and large those of us in the bay are dead set flogging themselves, Ive still got no voice today. Were audible but were not deafening. This is a simple numbers issue. If we had double the numbers, wed have double the noise. We have gone backwards but what we can do to turn this around is not obvious.
If we want to suss out how to improve what we do and how we can attract more numbers I think we need to look at what were doing and what other groups are doing to build. The Squadron have gone from a group our size to something much larger in the last two years while weve done the reverse maybe they have something we can learn from?
FFC Mariner
Well-Known Member
I think we need to think in terms of opportunity and not beat ourselves up.
The Marinators club needs to further emphasise the fact that membership is not exclusive to people in Bay 16. We see "non bay" people in the Kendall to watch away games and this broadening of the groups appeal to become the de facto supporters club is the path to growth IMHO.
As to the bays themselves, piss poor crowds dont help and again that may change when numbers improve. It was noticeable this week that Coaster had drawn away a lot of the younger casual visitors (eg, my daughter and all of her friends missed the game to be there) so it certainly isnt panic stations.
Maybe as mentioned a few times above, coordination across the 3 bays would help a bit??
The Marinators club needs to further emphasise the fact that membership is not exclusive to people in Bay 16. We see "non bay" people in the Kendall to watch away games and this broadening of the groups appeal to become the de facto supporters club is the path to growth IMHO.
As to the bays themselves, piss poor crowds dont help and again that may change when numbers improve. It was noticeable this week that Coaster had drawn away a lot of the younger casual visitors (eg, my daughter and all of her friends missed the game to be there) so it certainly isnt panic stations.
Maybe as mentioned a few times above, coordination across the 3 bays would help a bit??
dibo
Well-Known Member
Greenpoleffc said:
What does coordination mean? Ive heard complaints plenty of times from a few people that the megaphone is overused and that people wont sing what they dont want to sing. On the other hand theres a desire to better coordinate whats going on in the bay/s.
Im coming to the view that coordination comes less from the megaphone and more from repetition the more runs a song gets each time it goes up, the more the end has a chance to carry it across several bays.
Its no accident that simple songs work best, but theres also no doubt that without some variety were going to be boring as batshit and pretty unappealing to be a part of.
Jorome Alexander Bennett
Well-Known Member
A-league is not yet mainstream.
Only a certain percentage of the population is into it.
Newcastle, Sydney and Melbourne have a population large enough such that the small percentage still translates to a good fanbase.
We don't. Our lack of numbers could lead to the marinators as framed as uncool and that would be the death of us in the eyes of the Central Coast Youth.
We need to ensure that we are having fun.
If someone comes to bay 16 they have a good night then they'll come again and maybe bring a friend.
We have purged the marinators of deviants.
We have to start recruiting the right kind of fans now.
Make bay 16 fun. Have a laugh. We need to have more laughs. I think youth league will help. Big game pressure is off. We aren't wholely gripped by the result. We can chill and have a laugh.
It doesn't need to be offensive. I've heard non offensive yet funny stuff since day one.
I think we're doing the right things at the moment. i'm having fun, we're cheering as loud as we can, we sing for the boys. We're on the right track but it might be a very steep path.
People must enjoy the mariners and the bay experience enough to pay $180. Now we can look at the price and say that it isn't that much over a season, the value one gets makes up for it or it is less than in england. But those points, while valid, mean nothing to a part time supporter who needs to be converted.
Only a certain percentage of the population is into it.
Newcastle, Sydney and Melbourne have a population large enough such that the small percentage still translates to a good fanbase.
We don't. Our lack of numbers could lead to the marinators as framed as uncool and that would be the death of us in the eyes of the Central Coast Youth.
We need to ensure that we are having fun.
If someone comes to bay 16 they have a good night then they'll come again and maybe bring a friend.
We have purged the marinators of deviants.
We have to start recruiting the right kind of fans now.
Make bay 16 fun. Have a laugh. We need to have more laughs. I think youth league will help. Big game pressure is off. We aren't wholely gripped by the result. We can chill and have a laugh.
It doesn't need to be offensive. I've heard non offensive yet funny stuff since day one.
I think we're doing the right things at the moment. i'm having fun, we're cheering as loud as we can, we sing for the boys. We're on the right track but it might be a very steep path.
People must enjoy the mariners and the bay experience enough to pay $180. Now we can look at the price and say that it isn't that much over a season, the value one gets makes up for it or it is less than in england. But those points, while valid, mean nothing to a part time supporter who needs to be converted.
Jorome Alexander Bennett
Well-Known Member
I would like us to move under cover next season, or earlier if possible without losing the whole plot.
We initially sat behind the goals because they were cheap seats that could attract more people.
If we're going to have to pay a premium we should be sitting undercover across from the away support, imo. Better view, better sound, no rain. In fact, we should sit where the away support currently sits. That way when we get bigger we are on tv and the away support either loses sound behind the goals of is off screen across from us.
As it stands the away supporters bay is more ideal in everyway than our own.
I firmly believe we should move there and would like this idea to be considered by all those who matter. Do i write a letter to the Marinators President?
We initially sat behind the goals because they were cheap seats that could attract more people.
If we're going to have to pay a premium we should be sitting undercover across from the away support, imo. Better view, better sound, no rain. In fact, we should sit where the away support currently sits. That way when we get bigger we are on tv and the away support either loses sound behind the goals of is off screen across from us.
As it stands the away supporters bay is more ideal in everyway than our own.
I firmly believe we should move there and would like this idea to be considered by all those who matter. Do i write a letter to the Marinators President?
FFC Mariner
Well-Known Member
Goldenboy said:
Seconded if you do move a motion to this effect
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