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RD 19: Mariners at WSW Away at Spotless Stadium.

JoyfulPenguin

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Central Coast Mariners star Roy O’Donovan turns up heat on Western Sydney Wanderers
Tom Smithies, Football Editor, The Daily Telegraph
February 9, 2017 9:11pm


“IT’S pretty tight,” says Roy O’Donovan, and the striker is clear his Mariners are ready to make the battle to secure a place in the A-League finals even tighter, at Western Sydney’s expense.

As the two teams meet on Sunday, with the Gosford club aiming to reel the Wanderers in through a third straight victory, O’Donovan said there is “pressure on Western Sydney every week” — especially against a side “always taken quite lightly”.

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Mariners striker Roy O'Donovan takes a shot at goal. Picture: AAP

Western Sydney’s players have been taking the threat of the Mariners very seriously, with a gap of just five points in the midst of a five-team arm-wrestle for the last places in the top six. In round four the Mariners took a point off Tony Popovic’s side, part of a winless streak at Spotless Stadium that O’Donovan said remains an issue.

“There’s pressure on them every week, they’re a big club and well supported,” he said. “They’ll be very keen to get their first win at their temporary new home (at Spotless Stadium) but we go full of confidence having won our last two.

“Western Sydney haven’t kicked on the way people might have expected, and hopefully we can stick to our game plan. It won’t be easy — Western Sydney are a strong side and have weapons at their disposal. But the Mariners as a team are always taken quite lightly — that’s probably been fair enough in what, the last three seasons? But we’ve been unlucky at times this season.

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Roy O'Donovan believes the pressure is on the Wanderers this weekend. Picture: Getty Images

“We drew with Melbourne City on New Year’s Eve, a last-minute equaliser that was hard to take, and the week after we looked like the only side capable of beating Sydney FC, only to lose to an off-side goal.

“But our performances have been good, and importantly when we haven’t played so well the last couple of weeks, we’ve still ground out a result.”

On Thursday, the FFA said the game would go ahead as planned despite the scorching temperatures forecast across the state all weekend, with a southerly wind scheduled to bring some relief by Sunday afternoon.

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Central Coast’s Liam Rose clashes with Wanderers veteran Brendon Santalab during their match at Central Coast Stadium in December. Picture: Getty Images

Newcastle’s home game against Melbourne Victory at the same time the day before has been moved to Monday and O’Donovan said the predicted heat would undoubtedly affect the game.

“It is difficult — we played in Canberra last week, and so far inland the humidity and the heat made for hard conditions,” he said. “It probably wasn’t the best game to watch as a result, but for once we came out on the right side of a tight situation.

“To be honest you can’t learn much from it, except that you have to survive it. It’ll be a very hot day in Western Sydney, and we all have to deal with that.”

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...s/news-story/75de7bb43a60cb81502aafb384104f64
 

dibo

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Basically a loss here ends any outside chance of finals.
On current points per game, Wanderers (1.17 PPG) are set to hit 32, so we're really needing to aim for about 33. Even still, that'd be one of the lowest totals to get a side into the finals since we went to a 27 game season. We're currently tracking to hit 24.

We get to play them of course, which knocks them down if we win, and we get to play the Jets twice, which is also helpful. Take nine points from those matches, and we'd probably be looking at a total of about 32pts but they'd be looking at roughly 30 and 27. Wanderers and Jets also play each other, so hopefully they do some some damage to each other.

Then we've got to worry about Wellington, but we win this week and we're level with them on points anyway.

Wanderers and Jets have easier runs in than us, but we can make some easy points less easy to get. But really, it's between them.

The run ins are:

Wanderers - 21pts, 1.17PPG, on track for 32pts:
Home to Central Coast Mariners

Home to Sydney FC
Perth Glory Away

Home to Adelaide United
Home to Wellington Phoenix
Home to Melbourne City
Newcastle Jets Away
Home to Melbourne Victory
Adelaide United Away

4 games vs top 6 teams. They're obviously the favourites to hang on. They've got a pretty decent run in, with only one really hard away game and they are very hard to beat.

Jets - 20pts, 1.11PPG, on track for 30pts:
Home to Melbourne Victory
Adelaide United Away
Home to Central Coast Mariners
Home to Brisbane Roar
Melbourne City Away

Wellington Phoenix Away
Home to Western Sydney Wanderers
Central Coast Mariners Away
Sydney FC Away

5 games vs top 6 teams. Their run is alright, and they'd be looking at us as 6pts for the taking.

Phoenix - 19pts, 1.06PPG, on track for 29pts:
Home to Melbourne City
Brisbane Roar Away
Home to Perth Glory
Western Sydney Wanderers Away

Home to Newcastle Jets
Melbourne Victory Away
Home to Sydney FC
Brisbane Roar Away


7 games vs top 6 teams. This is a nightmare run. I can see them struggling to get more than a couple of wins.

Mariners - 16pts, 0.89PPG, on track for 24pts:
Western Sydney Wanderers Away
Home to Melbourne Victory

Newcastle Jets Away
Home to Melbourne City
Sydney FC Away

Home to Adelaide United
Brisbane Roar Away
Home to Newcastle Jets
Melbourne Victory Away

6 games vs top 6 teams. We only leave NSW twice, which is good, but it's not an easy run. This is the stack of homework you leave yourself if you don't study until the night before the exam...

Adelaide - 11pts, 0.61PPG, on track for 17pts:
Home to Perth Glory
Home to Newcastle Jets
Melbourne Victory Away
Western Sydney Wanderers Away
Home to Brisbane Roar

Central Coast Mariners Away
Home to Perth Glory
Melbourne City Away
Home to Western Sydney Wanderers


7 games vs top 6 teams. They've got way too much ground to make up to be a factor. I can't see them getting the 7 or so wins they need.
 

dibo

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^^^
For all this, if we win and Victory wins, this is the table:

6 - WSW, 21
7 - NEW, 20
8 - WEL, 19
9 - CCM, 19

I just think Wanderers have the best run in of the lot and are the hardest to beat of that four, so unless they cave in under pressure (not at all impossible) they'll snare 6th.
 

localpom

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^^^
For all this, if we win and Victory wins, this is the table:

6 - WSW, 21
7 - NEW, 20
8 - WEL, 19
9 - CCM, 19

I just think Wanderers have the best run in of the lot and are the hardest to beat of that four, so unless they cave in under pressure (not at all impossible) they'll snare 6th.
Having had such a bad record against the Nix has really hurted us.
 

Forum Phoenix

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Ver useful posts - thanks for those Dibo.

I also think city and Perh are both capable of capitulating. SFC Roar and Victory are not going anywhere. But city in 4th are only on 26 points, have been inconsistent since the get go and imo are on the decline. Discupline looks poor - they may rally around Tims ego - but it may help break them apart - we'll see. If not for Brattan and Fornaroli I'd be confident they'd fall.

Perth, football wise, have some high quality players and did hit a good patch - but good teams have had poor days against them - and as a 'team' I they're very ordinary. Moreover, pull Castro out and I think they largely fall apart on field and from what I can fathom of the dressing room - theres a few giant tools in there - so they could easily derail them too.


Conversely I see Nix, Wanderers and Scum as being potentially quite strong. So I see 123, staying the same, barring Roar and MV shuffling, but 456 could well change in the last third of the season. Hopefully we're amongst the jockeying.
 

dibo

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So I see 123, staying the same, barring Roar and MV shuffling, but 456 could well change in the last third of the season. Hopefully we're amongst the jockeying.
If it's City and Perth sliding whilst Wellington, Wanderers and Jets kick on, then I think we're toast. We've got too many points to make up on them in too few games.

In their last nine games, they need seven and nine points respectively to match what I think we could possibly get on our *best* run through. I think they're out of reach.

And that's before you get to the fact that we're then coming from the back of the chasing pack for three spots. If there are three *other* clubs all kicking on *and* starting in front of us, even if City and Perth actually clock off and go barramundi fishing in the NT rather than playing football, I think we'd still finish 7th because we won't be able to get over the other chasers.
 

Forum Phoenix

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If it's City and Perth sliding whilst Wellington, Wanderers and Jets kick on, then I think we're toast. We've got too many points to make up on them in too few games.

In their last nine games, they need seven and nine points respectively to match what I think we could possibly get on our *best* run through. I think they're out of reach.

And that's before you get to the fact that we're then coming from the back of the chasing pack for three spots. If there are three *other* clubs all kicking on *and* starting in front of us, even if City and Perth actually clock off and go barramundi fishing in the NT rather than playing football, I think we'd still finish 7th because we won't be able to get over the other chasers.

Yeah you're right, so I hope I'm wrong.
 

Big Al

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Throw in the ACL curve ball

Does that put your team on a run or stretch it to thin?

WSW could click as starting to play well especially now they have more options upfront with the addition of Antonis but are they then required to play the young guys some more?
E.g. Are they going to play Scott up front again? He just doesn't look top notch to be leading there line yet. They can now go with Santa and Grifiths but probably need Scott as well

The roar for example have a strong squad and the ACL might be making them better
 

pjennings

Well-Known Member
^^^
For all this, if we win and Victory wins, this is the table:

6 - WSW, 21
7 - NEW, 20
8 - WEL, 19
9 - CCM, 19


I just think Wanderers have the best run in of the lot and are the hardest to beat of that four, so unless they cave in under pressure (not at all impossible) they'll snare 6th.

And Sydney will have qualified for the finals with 8 rounds to go.

It is a very tough ask for us to make the 6. We really need to get some (3 may be enough) points from these four very tough fixtures

Sydney FC Away
Brisbane Roar Away
Melbourne Victory Away
Home to Melbourne Victory

AND win every one of these fixtures

Western Sydney Wanderers Away
Newcastle Jets Away
Home to Melbourne City
Home to Adelaide United
Home to Newcastle Jets

It would be mathematically possible with less points but anything less than a win this week basically will end our run.
 

nebakke

Well-Known Member
f**k it! I'm calling it... Move over Morrow!

CCM to end Sydney's run when we next play them. We should have gotten at least 1 off them when we last and for all of everything they robbed us of 6 last season - this is when we start claiming it back!
 

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