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R9: CCM v WSW

Wombat

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Blow your ears out mate. He was not criticising his team mates he was criticising the lack of experienced depth available. He actually complimented the young guys on their commitment.
In terms of being our best striker ever, I would say it was Kwassy when he was running hot, but in overall consistency of performance Roy is the goods.

Kwassy??
Amazing player on his day......absolute mug next week.

Mori, Aloisi, Roy, Petrie, Sasho were all better than Kwassy. But hard not to love Kwas.
 

Forum Phoenix

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The problem with Kwas was that most of his chances were too easy. Would score the impossible, and butcher the unmissable.
Kwasaldhino :piano:
 

Big Al

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Missing veteran midfielders Nick Montgomery and Mickael Tavares, the Mariners struggled to exert themselves on the contest despite snatching an early lead at Central Coast Stadium.


“We need to spend more money, we need to reinforce,” O’Donovan told ABC Grandstand.

“It’s a problem we haven’t got the strength in depth that other teams have. We don’t spend any money and you can see that.

“We miss one or two like Monty and Tavares and all of a sudden we’re paper thin.

“That’s been the case since I’ve been at Mariners. I’m going to sound like a moaner for saying it but it’s the truth.

“We’ve got a great bunch of lads but we just need one or two more, that’s all.”

Wanderers leapfrog Mariners into top six

Acknowledging the “best team” won on the day, O’Donovan reserved particular praise for gifted Wanderers playmaker Nicolas Martinez.

“Every team persists with playing a number 10 but there are not many genuine ones,” the Irishman said. “You’ve got to be a really good player to play there and he is one.”

442 article.

Roy can miss a sitter, but also scores some rippers and works his arse off.

Him and Monty are our only aggressive players
 

Forum Phoenix

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Missing veteran midfielders Nick Montgomery and Mickael Tavares, the Mariners struggled to exert themselves on the contest despite snatching an early lead at Central Coast Stadium.


“We need to spend more money, we need to reinforce,” O’Donovan told ABC Grandstand.

“It’s a problem we haven’t got the strength in depth that other teams have. We don’t spend any money and you can see that.

“We miss one or two like Monty and Tavares and all of a sudden we’re paper thin.

“That’s been the case since I’ve been at Mariners. I’m going to sound like a moaner for saying it but it’s the truth.

“We’ve got a great bunch of lads but we just need one or two more, that’s all.”

Wanderers leapfrog Mariners into top six

Acknowledging the “best team” won on the day, O’Donovan reserved particular praise for gifted Wanderers playmaker Nicolas Martinez.

“Every team persists with playing a number 10 but there are not many genuine ones,” the Irishman said. “You’ve got to be a really good player to play there and he is one.”

442 article.

Roy can miss a sitter, but also scores some rippers and works his arse off.

Him and Monty are our only aggressive players

Thanks for posting that.
I don't see this as ripping on the team at all. He's being honest and he's bang on in every regard. Like him all the more for it.

I think I'd put Posc and then Ascroft as our next most aggressive players. Powell I wouldn't call aggressive but he's the next best after that.
 

Ancient Mariner

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Kwassy??
Amazing player on his day......absolute mug next week.

Mori, Aloisi, Roy, Petrie, Sasho were all better than Kwassy. But hard not to love Kwas.
Have to agree, I was having a bit of a stir naming Kwassy, maybe I could pick him as our best penalty shooter.;)
I used to like Petrie's diving headers.
 

Gratis

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I'll say it again - we weren't that bad but our lack of depth killed us

No Monty to break up play and shut down the likes of Nichols and Jumpei and Taveres maintaining possession and distributing. Kept the likes of Pain and Budgie out of the game as a result and we were open in the middle and ineffective in attack.

I stand by my earlier comments. Had we Tav and Monty I think we would have won
 

localpom

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I'll say it again - we weren't that bad but our lack of depth killed us

No Monty to break up play and shut down the likes of Nichols and Jumpei and Taveres maintaining possession and distributing. Kept the likes of Pain and Budgie out of the game as a result and we were open in the middle and ineffective in attack.

I stand by my earlier comments. Had we Tav and Monty I think we would have won
Absolutely. We really missed them....WSW just had a little bit too much time on the ball. They have some quality players and will give the comp a shake when they are fully firing. When i heard Monty and Tav were both out my heart sank as i knew it was a massive ask with such a young side. Hopefully they are not out for long.
 

MrCelery

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I agree the stadium food and drink queues were absolutely horrendous. Many of the staff looked like it was their first attempt to pull a beer. I'm not surprised at the food queues, as the fast food options are actually now better in the ground than in the Leagues Club. I never thought I'd be saying that. The Club dropping its bistro menu down to a plastic chili dog and other nasty choices on match days is an insult to Mariners fans. I made sure I left my strong feedback with the staff at reception. But judging by the many empty bistro area seats, and many people looking at the menu and just walking away, I'm sure they will get the message. I ended up eating a very basic steak sanga at the Bowlo.
 

Holy

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They still enjoyed it, but wasn't enough to hook anyone I think. A good buzzing win just may have. Out of comp tickets now, so harder, but will try get them back next time as well. At a guess I'd say half will return soon, others prob come again, but doubt it will be regular any time soon.

Agree with Ancient on food. It's avoided by all I know, barring the over priced hot chips, soft drink or ice cream.

Thanks for that, I've had the same experience when I've invited newbies, they have enjoyed it, and some have came back on the odd occasion, but none have become regulars. But it's still worth a try, for every maybe, we are one step closer to a yes
 

Holy

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I'll say it again - we weren't that bad but our lack of depth killed us

No Monty to break up play and shut down the likes of Nichols and Jumpei and Taveres maintaining possession and distributing. Kept the likes of Pain and Budgie out of the game as a result and we were open in the middle and ineffective in attack.

I stand by my earlier comments. Had we Tav and Monty I think we would have won
Agree 100% on your opening statement, we weren't that bad. Just no muscle / mongrel.
Thinking through the game and what we had available, with no Monty and no Tav, someone needed to shut Nichols. That was obvious at the end of the 1st half.
Junior could of played the Tav role if we had someone who could of played Monty's role.
Imagine if Posco was on the bench. After a run in the youth the previous week, unless he pulled up lame, I had expected him to be on the bench for this game and I would of brought him at half time and got Harry on Nichols in the Monty role. Harry did a great job last season in that role when he shut down Moy in a game against City.
It may of then been a different 2nd half
 

MagpieMariner

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I agree the stadium food and drink queues were absolutely horrendous. Many of the staff looked like it was their first attempt to pull a beer. I'm not surprised at the food queues, as the fast food options are actually now better in the ground than in the Leagues Club. I never thought I'd be saying that. The Club dropping its bistro menu down to a plastic chili dog and other nasty choices on match days is an insult to Mariners fans. I made sure I left my strong feedback with the staff at reception. But judging by the many empty bistro area seats, and many people looking at the menu and just walking away, I'm sure they will get the message. I ended up eating a very basic steak sanga at the Bowlo.
They may not care because when I went in the place was full of Wanderers.
 

Luca Brasi

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Big gaps between Pain and Trent and Galloway and Roux. They exploited the those holes.
This. Roux tried to do too much after the first goal and got caught out more than a few times but he wasnt getting much support from any second defenders. Galloway gave it up for the 3rd goal and constantly struggled to find passing options.
Tav is probably my favourite player so I was disappointed to see him hobbling around the club in the moon boot before the game but I thought Rose did a really good job in that role.
Overall I enjoyed the game and the atmosphere until WSW keeper got sent. With Fabio going on in the middle and then moving to 3 at the back our shape just collapsed.
 

Forum Phoenix

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Dont get me wrong. I like Rose and he was solid - but he needs an extra 3 - 5 metres distance from players to comfortably receive the ball than Tav does.

Tav was consistently operating in heavy traffic - and our players passed to him without fear - Rosey doesn't have that same confidence/experience yet, we just won't see the same link play I fear. Rose was functioning further back - so in front of their line - tav within it.
 

Forum Phoenix

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Ha, not my intended meaning at all.

Back in the day it 'Egat!' would come up as essentially a verbal exclamation mark, the equivalent of getting some surprising news and saying 'Jesus!'

Haven't heard it for years actually so not surprising it is not the same thing anymore

Did you mean egad?

egad
ɪˈɡad/
exclamation
archaic
  1. expressing surprise, anger, or affirmation.
Egat
An egat, is an offensive, straight homophobe. Specifically used to describe someone who uses the term "fag" and/or "dyke" offensively. Coined by a facebookuser.

Or was the intial post directed at Wombat?
:vhappy::piralaugh:

Sorry Wombles, couldn't resist :innocent:
 

Bladesman

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At half time I had us winning that game 4 or 5 -2 based on the first half.

It is certainly the best I have seen us play for a very long time in terms of the speed and accuracy of our passing, the movement and probing of our attack.

However the things I expected Paulo to tweak at half time just didn't happen.

1. Make sure that Rose was never more than 2 yards from Nichols.
2 In the first half we opened up the opportunity to switch the ball back to the right with Trent in so much space it wasn't funny on at least 5 occasions and never once played the cross field ball. I know he was a different class but with Dutchy in this team delivering the quick switch and transition we would be killing opposition with our pace. This for me is the key area we need to focus on and something we should be able to fix easily with our current players.
3 Around the edge of the area we need to focus on closing the man with the ball, the first 2 goals we both conceded by backing off. First we allowed the player space to come inside and shoot. Secondly we gave a play of Nichols quality so much time to pick out his player it was not funny. we need to concentrate on the immediate threat.

What I took out of the second half though was our lack of ability to improvise and play what was in front of us, we seemed far to conditioned to the system. The amount of time we could have attacked space or isolated their full backs 2 on 1 and use our extra player but chose to go backwards was just frustrating. It was a very wasted opportunity but as long a Paulo can use this to highlight to the young squad how to develop and grow in these situations we can actually finish the season very strongly.
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
Good post Bladesman - the failure to isolate them wide was critical to our failure to punish them while they were a man down.

Another thing that was interesting was that without the ball, we pressed but not as a team - the front three would push on but there was a disconnect between them and the back line - we started looking like two teams at times. WSW didn't make that many errors and so when they were able to play through that initial press and pick a pass into midfield, they had numbers and countered with speed.

We just need to learn from that - press hard as a team or drop off and consolidate. We can't be doing both at once!
 

pjennings

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Question for the referees on the forum. When Tyson clattered into Trent one of our players had a shot on goal. It looked to be on target. Borda raised his arm and stopped it. As the referee came across Borda gestured to the referee that his arms were tucked into his body (which they weren't). He was expecting a red to himself - not to Tyson.

What are the rules here. Does the earlier red card offence mean that anything subsequent is negated - or could they both have been sent off? :confused:
 

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