New Mariners Coach?

[pjennings]

Forget the story - just read Lyall's quotes. Lawrie is there for this season and the board are looking at making improvements for the club. That is their job!!

Whether we like it or not Arnold would be a candidate - though certainly not one I would want.  Lyall didn't say anything that supported the crux of the story.

 

[Morgan30]

just thought of a little side issue on this, bring Arnold in to stop any FFA plans to relocate the side? FFA certainly imo wont have us moved if Arnold was in charge

I get the impression, rightly or wrongly, that if the FFA asked Arnold to bend over, he'd offer up his buttocks and even offer to lube up for them.... He's been their 'good employee' for many years.

If he is 'sent' by the FFA to coach the Mariners there's MORE chance they have some plot planned, IMHO. I could be wrong, and truly hope I AM if Arnold turns up at Bluetongue as coach or manager.

Your idea makes more sense than mine, we can only hope it doesnt eventuate that way

 

[Arabmariner]

Something smells in all of this imo.

The five years is almost up.We haven't won for six months and have been playing shit football.

Most likely membership will be down this season as a result.

Is there interference from above in their "franchise" ?

We need a change in coach imo.......but Arnold ? There is nothing in his coaching CV that indicates success.

 

[Marquee]

Very strange to see them come out with it seeing as the deal is at least a year away.

What does this mean for Lawrie this year? He now knows the club has lost faith, but will he put 200% effort in and try to keep his job or will he say f**k you all and sit on his ass.

IMO very stupid position to put him in. Surely if the deal wasn't happening you would keep it hushed. Anyway I'm not sure where to stand. I've only even seen Arnold coach at National level, where he was awful. Although you must say he has a higher pedigree than Lawrie, whatever that is worth.

Perhaps this is a plan to keep Lawrie on his toes??? Or something really fishy?

 

[Jesus]

Actually think at this level arnie would do a frankie, not good enough for national team management, but sound for a-league.

Also may help with recruitment in the manner of farina and moore.

Not that i particularly want arnie, and we will have lawrie this season it seems anyway

 

[Ursus]

Lawrie was such a breath of fresh air at Northern Spirit after Arnie and the other bloke who was so shite I have erased his name from my memory.

Mick Hickman, even worse than Arnie.

 

[Ursus]

It's on 442 - "Central Coast Mariners have had talks with Graham Arnold about becoming the club's new manager but current boss Lawrie McKinna will stay in charge next season.
Sources close to the club say the Mariners board lost confidence in McKinna after a disastrous run of form since the turn of the year. The club has yet to record a single competitive victory in 2009. The source says they wanted to bring in controversial former Socceroos and Olyroos coach Arnold to replace McKinna. But McKinna is only one year into his three year deal and reportedly only agreed to leave the club if they paid out the remainder of his contract.
However the club insisted they can't afford it. The club is said to have explored a compromise deal where McKinna took on an advisory role at the club as football director or similar when Arnold comes in to replace him. Arnold could also then have honoured the remainder of his contract with the FFA as an assistant coach with the Socceroos until the conclusion of the World Cup. However that could see power see-sawing between the two when Arnold goes off on Socceroos training camps and overseas games - and the plan was abandoned. "How would this work, I really don't know but Lawrie's aware of what's going on," said a club insider. "They've spoken with Arnie, they've sounded him out, but they just can't afford to pay out Lawrie." It's now believed the plan has been put on hold until the end of next season when Arnie's FFA commitments are complete and the cost of paying out McKinna has been halved - and he has had another season to redeem himself with better results. This morning Mariners' executive chairman Lyall Gorman admitted they had talked to Arnold and shopped around for coaches elsewhere too - but insisted McKinna would be in charge next season. "We'd have been naive not to talk to Graham Arnold," he said. "We've had a chat with a range of managers across the world. "But Lawrie will be the football manager this year. I guarantee that. Graham Arnold will not be sitting on the coach's bench this season. There will be no change to the coaching staff this year." However Gorman was making no promises on what would happen at the end of the 2009/2010 season. "That is a long way down the  track and we have a season of results ahead of us," added Gorman. "We are always looking to strengthen our position across the board." McKinna travelled to the recent Australia training session at ANZ Stadium in Sydney before the World Cup qualifier Bahrain and watched from the stands as Arnold joined Pim Verbeek and Henk Duut in putting the players through their paces. He stayed on after the session and then made a beeline to grab a light-hearted chat with Verbeek and Arnold as they left the stadium. Despite a dismal conclusion to their Asian Champions League campaign and the release of several players, the Mariners have so far made no additions to their senior team roster yet with the new season now just seven weeks away.

If all this is true it indicates extemely clumsy handling of the matter by the board.
Worrying points.

1) If you are going to get rid of your manager you do it, simple. If you cannot afford to you sit on it until you can. You do not stuff around like a bunch of incompetents.

2) Arnie?

3) It has leaked.

4) Will they back McKinna in any proposed purchases from now on?

If this story is true and it is a big "if", I am very concerned about the competence of our board.

Remember the board is made up of more than just Lyall and Peter Turnbull. Check out some of the other names. You may then be worried as well.

 

[tuftman]

I'm hoping its just something they've done to show Lawrie that he has to lift his game this season. Perhaps we could get the thread named changed to "ARNOLD OUT!!!!!" in much the same vein as the last thread, just to give ourselves a year should worse come to worse and Arnold is actually appointed

 

[Ursus]

I'm hoping its just something they've done to show Lawrie that he has to lift his game this season.

What, vote of no confidence, then keep him on.
Strange people management.

 

[Jazzie]

I guess time to get my Arnie voodoo doll out of storage..

LOLOLOL, stick early and stick often! 

 

[kevrenor]

...I think he has his hands full with the ladies...

Heh

I see what you did there

It is a worry it leaked, and they were going about it so ineptly .... although I do hope that any performance review of Lawrie said that the last 6 months have not been good enough, and that he said, open the purse strings then!

 

[Jazzie]

I'm hoping its just something they've done to show Lawrie that he has to lift his game this season.

What, vote of no confidence, then keep him on.
Strange people management.

I wonder if Lawrie got the dreaded "has the complete backing of the Board" line?

 

[FFC Mariner]

I'm hoping its just something they've done to show Lawrie that he has to lift his game this season.

What, vote of no confidence, then keep him on.
Strange people management.

Absolutely agree. They are close to making his position untenable (maybe they think he will resign?)

In my industry its known as playing the man not the ball. Thing is (as sir Humphrey kept saying), its important that the man doesnt know.

The alternate strategy is "death by a 1000 cuts" where leaks and complaints appear regularly and the person is starved of resources until you can sack them for non-performance or they walk.

 

[Jazzie]

what's raul blanco doing these days? 

If he has any sense, he would be sitting under a palm tree somewhere sipping on a pina colada

 

[Jaza_SFC]

Brutal that it's leaked. SUrely a way to push McKinna?

 

[Honkee]

Was just on 4-4-2 read the story then found 2 bling fc shit eaters poking fun.

of all bloody teams to poke shit at coaching troubles, bling should be the very f**king last.

 

[David Votoupal]

Arnold is part of the same generation of players as Farina and Kosmina, they played together up front for Frank Arok's Socceroos side- whose best player was the gifted and somehow forgotten (by younger fans) Oscar Crino.

Arnold, Kosmina, Foster et al are people who've acted like they own the game in Australia, when clearly many fans can't stand any of them. At least Farina's proven he's alright as a domestic club coach with the Strikers and now Roar.

Keep Arnold away from CCM or any A-League club at all costs.

 

[nikko]

I blame Gorman for this

 

[Jaza_SFC]

of all bloody teams to poke shit at coaching troubles, bling should be the very f**king last.

Say what you will about the past... We have the best coach in the league, who's an absolute gentleman to boot.

You're trying to sack one dour, unimaginative (yet affable and awesome guy) coach... For a dour, unimaginative, proven failure of a coach.

LOL

 

[Ted]

pfft, 12 months is long time in football and anythng can happen between now and then. must be its a ploy to keep LM on his toes. Thing is, it wouldn't have mattered who was in charge of the boys the last 12 months, the outcome would have been similar or worse. we didnt have the talent on the pitch with the departure of viddy, jedi, tommy and fergo and never replaced them either. Give LM a solid spine of players on the pitch and watch him deliver the goods.