McCabe joins the Board

[clarence]

BTW - Clarence how do you intend on fire up if things go pear shaped? Once you've sold your soul to the devil it's his play thing not yours...   

One could ask the same thing about what you're going to do about this now......

Who's to say that McCabe is the devil and that the club HAS sold it's soul? I know I certainly haven't sold mine just yet & neither has countless other Mariners' fans, so we do reserve the right to support the club or not, hold protests against anything we don't like collectively.

Remember this too Sacko, the major asset in the future of this club will be it's Centre of Football Excellence. It will be a development IN PARTNERSHIP with Wyong Council and Wyong RSL. As I said earlier, McCabe won't be getting it all his way (he is still only a part investor in the Mariners too and only so many spots on the Board, not wholly owned.). Even when the development is complete he will still have other stakeholders in the CoFE to attend to. I cannot see it being his plaything.

What is the flipside though Sacko? What alternative is there for the club? We all tend to agree that the club needs external funds in order to survive & it doesn't have the capacity at the moment to generate income from other sources. The Centre of Football Excellence has to get up and running, and generating income for the club first, then they can look at other projects that will also offer alternative income streams for the club as a business. Sponsorships and crowd attendance income is seasonal and fickle, and should - in an ideal situation - only form a part of their income stream.

Maybe you would be happier if West Ham took a stake instead of McCabe/Sheffield? I know it wouldn't change my view but others here may detest that as much as you do McCabe's investment.

 

[Ursus]

Much different situation to Spirit. When Rangers took them over they were worth close to SFA, and then they squandered the cash injection with worthless signings (Hickman as coach, Fozzie, the keeper who cost a fortune but was not as good as Hendo, and many others. At the end of that season Spirit was worth even less.

However, the Rangers take over allowed a couple more seasons of hanging on after they walked away from their worthless (from there viewpoint) investment.

Without those couple of extra years there would have been, no Fergie, no Petrie, prolly no Lawrie and no squad to form the basis of the Mariners, hence no Mariners.



This is not the same situation. McCabe has purchased a share of a strong valuable club the same as PT.

I look forward to an even stronger Mariners in the future, with a strong academy and developnent path for youngsters and  with other players coming to us who may not make an impact in EPL but will carve up the A-League.

Sacko, do you remember the loan of Steve Dobie? If that occurred now I would like to think someone like him would stick around for a year or two.

I hate to think where we would be now without both PT and this partnership. It is V5 after which all guarantees are off. We are now standing on our own two feet, unlike the first couple of seasons, and are moving forward.

I am looking forward to the future when we will be one of the strongest and most stable franchises in the A-League with confidence.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Much different situation to Spirit. When Rangers took them over they were worth close to SFA, and then they squandered the cash injection with worthless signings (Hickman as coach, Fozzie, the keeper who cost a fortune but was not as good as Hendo, and many others. At the end of that season Spirit was worth even less.

However, the Rangers take over allowed a couple more seasons of hanging on after they walked away from their worthless (from there viewpoint) investment.

Without those couple of extra years there would have been, no Fergie, no Petrie, prolly no Lawrie and no squad to form the basis of the Mariners, hence no Mariners.



This is not the same situation. McCabe has purchased a share of a strong valuable club the same as PT.

I look forward to an even stronger Mariners in the future, with a strong academy and developnent path for youngsters and  with other players coming to us who may not make an impact in EPL but will carve up the A-League.

Sacko, do you remember the loan of Steve Dobie? If that occurred now I would like to think someone like him would stick around for a year or two.

I hate to think where we would be now without both PT and this partnership. It is V5 after which all guarantees are off. We are now standing on our own two feet, unlike the first couple of seasons, and are moving forward.

I am looking forward to the future when we will be one of the strongest and most stable franchises in the A-League with confidence.

What an awesome post!

Hear Hear Ursus!

With all he has on his plate can't help but feel taht the most likely thing is that Mc Cabe is probably pretty much interested in exactly what he said, first dibs and bargain buys on talented aussies. Like Bex stated, if they're talented they'll go anyway, it really makes little difference if their path is via Sheffield to us, but this is candy to young players looking for a defined possible career path - especiially if they get promoted any time soon. Though I understand that if you hate SHUTD then being in partnership and then watching your once favourite players go their would be hard. But never much point in arguing with reality.

 

[Sacko]

Having been through the Rangers / Spirit nightmare I can see plenty of negatives, and this has nothing to do with which club has a seat on our board. Blacktown have been chewed up and spat out by West Ham so I wouldn't be happy even they'd taken the role that Sheff Utd has.   


As I said eariler in the thread, I would still be nervous about the ultimate objectives regardless of whether it's Sheff Utd, Man Utd or West Ham Utd. They will at some point either want a return on their money which may not fit the best interests of the Mariners or as Rangers did just write off the investment and let the club die. As for the arguement that our best players will leave anyway so why not to Sheff Utd, if we still have to sell our best players when it doesn't suit us as a club what is the benefit of the partnership, why not bargin harder with an outsider for a better deal? For example say Matt Simon scores 15 goals by the end of December and the Mariners still well in the hunt for finals spot but not yet confirmed and non-related Championship club comes a sniffing around for him, we can bump the price and terms up in our favour more than if an insider deal comes through from Sheff Utd, who really need him for their promotion push that the nasty Tevez was singlehandedly responsible for - how can the CCM board play hardball with their own members...

Ursus have you just got older and not wiser? I thought that humans were meant to learn from mistakes of the past......
 
Having said that, it's a now done deal so I hope that Ursus is right and it is a completely different situation to Spirit - GO THE MARINERS!