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Sacko

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Arabmariner said:
Sacko said:
Arabmariner said:
Didn't the Russians destroy Sheffield with a nuclear bomb in 1984 ?  ;)
BTW - I remember watching a mockumentary about the bomb at school
"Threads".....1984

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8E9fwQ1Ylw

No well know "name" actors in it.It focused on the build up and the 10-15 years after a nuclear attack.Back then it was a real possibility and this "mockumentary" kind of gave a lot of people the willies at the time.

The bloke who hides under the builders truck then does a runner when it wont start was the lead bloke in I.D. - one of the 1st football hooli films.   
 

Forum Phoenix

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FFC Mariner said:
Personally, I think the city of Sheffield would benefit from a nuclear attack.

Maggie missed a few of them in the 80's.

Shame

Way to sweet talk our big sister club FFC you ol smoothy you...

Bladesman...
I'm sure the majority of us are very grateful for our clubs linking up and are less intent on seeing you and yours nuked.
 

serious14

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Forum Phoenix said:
Way to sweet talk our big sister club FFC you ol smoothy you...

Pretty sure that any club we ever linked up with, regardless of where they're from, at least one person would have a legit. reason to dislike it.  This is football y'know.  ;)

*wanders off to start a thread based on this very idea*
 

Bladesman87

New Member
To be honest, over a good period of time now we've built up a bit of an "everybody hates us, we don't care" persona. And I for one love it.

Seems like there's been enough controversy with Sheffield United at the middle to make sure life is, at the very least, never boring.

Anyway, thought I'd post a link to something you may be interested in. Friday night McCabe did an open debate with the fans. Someone's typed up the transcript. I haven't actually read through all of it yet, but his character seems to be coming through.

http://www.s24su.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=272:kevin-mccabe-qaa-session-transcript-part-one&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=62
 

Atomic

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Bladesman87 said:
To be honest, over a good period of time now we've built up a bit of an "everybody hates us, we don't care" persona. And I for one love it.

Seems like there's been enough controversy with Sheffield United at the middle to make sure life is, at the very least, never boring.

Anyway, thought I'd post a link to something you may be interested in. Friday night McCabe did an open debate with the fans. Someone's typed up the transcript. I haven't actually read through all of it yet, but his character seems to be coming through.

http://www.s24su.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=272:kevin-mccabe-qaa-session-transcript-part-one&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=62

Excerpt from the debate:
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Audience: In relation to the Australia link you mentioned, what's the benefits? Because we've not really heard anything from Gold Coast Mariners, we've not got anything from them as we can see at the moment, what benefits...?

KMc: The Mariners is slightly different again. Their Deputy-Chairman is a friend of mine in Australia and he asked me to look at designing for them, sorry, planning not designing, an Academy that would run on similar lines to Sheffield United's. The end reason being this hot-bed of Aussie talent where we'd obviously get the first pick and we've just had one of their lads across, this young goalkeeper who's been with us. So we started looking at this chunk of land with him, coming forward with ideas which led to them... not buying, but having an agreement to develop this land where the owners were a Working Mens' Club in Australia. So there's an expectation that in the years ahead when this Academy's built, there'll be a natural flow of youngsters that will come to Sheffield or if not Sheffield, that we, because they're part of the family, will have the opportunity to sell those youngsters into Europe and share the proceeds.
 

Marquee

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So as some people expected, they want to tap into our youngsters and take them off our hands relatively cheaply. There are both pros and cons of this, but I think the main thing is, without this guy there would be no Academy and therefore no (or very little) youngsters attracted to the club. So we benefit from getting them at a young age, developing them with world class facilities, play them in the A-league until they dominate, and then if they can do so, ship them off to further their career in Europe.

I expect their will be people unhappy about this, thinking they are using us, but I feel the benefits outweigh the negatives.
 

Forum Phoenix

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serious14 said:
Forum Phoenix said:
Way to sweet talk our big sister club FFC you ol smoothy you...

Pretty sure that any club we ever linked up with, regardless of where they're from, at least one person would have a legit. reason to dislike it. This is football y'know.  ;)

*wanders off to start a thread based on this very idea*

Agreed, but I wasn't meaning to be taking it too seriously in any case. I had considered adding tongue poke smiley. That said If FFC also happened to be the ruler of North Korea or had access to a nuclear weapons stockpile then I would sure as shit be moving out of Derby County!!!

I'm glad you wandered off serious as despite being a lover of positivity in football when it comes to my own team, meaning I'm generally not in tune with your antihutchmetic views :) I'm loving the hate thread you just started! FFC's Derby story was a more enjoyable read than every single story I've read combined for the entire off season.

This depresses me. As now I think of it, I have to say that I find 90% of football journalism to be so lightweight these days that it makes me feel even more pathetic in my addiction to continually scrounge around for all the latest press releases...

That's it, I'm wandering off to start a light weight football journalism hate thread...
 

Forum Phoenix

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Marquee said:
So as some people expected, they want to tap into our youngsters and take them off our hands relatively cheaply. There are both pros and cons of this, but I think the main thing is, without this guy there would be no Academy and therefore no (or very little) youngsters attracted to the club. So we benefit from getting them at a young age, developing them with world class facilities, play them in the A-league until they dominate, and then if they can do so, ship them off to further their career in Europe.

I expect their will be people unhappy about this, thinking they are using us, but I feel the benefits outweigh the negatives.

I agree.
 

serious14

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Forum Phoenix said:
I'm glad you wandered off serious as despite being a lover of positivity in football when it comes to my own team, meaning I'm generally not in tune with your antihutchmetic views :) I'm loving the hate thread you just started..... That's it, I'm wandering off to start a light weight football journalism hate thread...

*tips hat*  You're more than welcome.  ;D

Loving your shit journalism thread too.
 

pjennings

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Forum Phoenix said:
Marquee said:
So as some people expected, they want to tap into our youngsters and take them off our hands relatively cheaply. There are both pros and cons of this, but I think the main thing is, without this guy there would be no Academy and therefore no (or very little) youngsters attracted to the club. So we benefit from getting them at a young age, developing them with world class facilities, play them in the A-league until they dominate, and then if they can do so, ship them off to further their career in Europe.

I expect their will be people unhappy about this, thinking they are using us, but I feel the benefits outweigh the negatives.

I agree.

I agree that the positives are much larger with the building of the academy. As far as players going overseas - we just need to be a bit canny with sell-on clauses with Sheffield. 
 

Bex

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I can't see any negatives in it. Jedinak was snapped up pretty quick and it wasn't by Sheffield. What makes anyone think that we would retain good players any longer if we didn't have a Sheffield link? For mine, the link means young players will be attracted to CCM because there is a clear career path. Can't see how thats a negative?
 

Forum Phoenix

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Bex said:
I can't see any negatives in it. Jedinak was snapped up pretty quick and it wasn't by Sheffield. What makes anyone think that we would retain good players any longer if we didn't have a Sheffield link? For mine, the link means young players will be attracted to CCM because there is a clear career path. Can't see how thats a negative?

Well put. Can't argue with that.

Though...

:popcorn:
 

serious14

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FFC Mariner said:
Personally, I think the city of Sheffield would benefit from a nuclear attack.

[Daisy answers phone]
Daisy: Oh hi Mike. Yeah, he's here, I'll just get him.
[to Tim]
Daisy: It's your boyfriend.
Tim: He's not my boyfriend.
[picks up phone]
Tim: Hi babe.
Mike Watt: Hello Timmy.
Tim: Where are you?
Mike: Err, Sheffield.
Tim: What are you doing in Sheffield?
Mike: Fell asleep on the tube.
Tim: The tube doesn't go to Sheffield, Mike.
Mike: Yeah, I know. I um must have changed at King's Cross.

:tv:
 

Sacko

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Forum Phoenix said:
Bex said:
I can't see any negatives in it. Jedinak was snapped up pretty quick and it wasn't by Sheffield. What makes anyone think that we would retain good players any longer if we didn't have a Sheffield link? For mine, the link means young players will be attracted to CCM because there is a clear career path. Can't see how thats a negative?

Well put. Can't argue with that.

Though...

:popcorn:

Having been through the Rangers / Spirit nightmare I can see plenty of negatives, and this has nothing to do with which club has a seat on our board. Blacktown have been chewed up and spat out by West Ham so I wouldn't be happy even they'd taken the role that Sheff Utd has.   
 

clarence

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Sacko said:
Having been through the Rangers / Spirit nightmare I can see plenty of negatives, and this has nothing to do with which club has a seat on our board. Blacktown have been chewed up and spat out by West Ham so I wouldn't be happy even they'd taken the role that Sheff Utd has.   

For once I tend to agree with you about the apprehension of a larger football (foreign) club taking over an Aussie one.

Unluckily for you, FFC and others who dislike Sheffield, this time 'round it is the club you despise.

However, I could see similar outpourings of disdain if it was ManU, or Liverpool, Real Madrid, or Inter Milan or even Nurnberg!

A lot of fans of A-League clubs also support foreign clubs, some going right back to their childhood and I can just imagine the disgust expressed if someone who used to support Everton 'back home', suddenly found their Australian A-League club being backed by Liverpool! Or someone who got attacked by Chelsea fans as a kid or had to run a  gauntlet to get to the nearest train station safely after an away match, suddenly found their despised club at the helm of their own A-League club.

But if you look at it from a Mariners standing point, they have been able to have some equity in the arrangement, it hasn't been a hostile takeover. And the partners in the large development that McCabe is licking his lips about is a Local Council and an RSL club.

These partners won't be easily shoved aside and both are answerable to electors who may not have any empathy with the project. So these partners will have to ensure it is all done well. And they will be looking for their $$ when it is up and running.

The only way that McCabe could have a greater input into this project that he wants, is to buy into the Mariners. But even then, he'll still have these partners to answer to, so it won't be all his way.

The development may be his only interest, aside from a possibility that Sheffield may have first dibs on any talent that may come through the Centre. Otherwise it may end up being business as usual for the Mariners - football operations wise.

You can easily refute this, and I could just as easily offer up alternative motives. Fact is, we are all going to have to wait and see how the club evolves with McCabe's involvement at the Board level, and satisfy our own reticence about the arrangement or not.
 

Bex

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Sacko, Clarence, you both make good points. I guess we will have to keep an eye on the situation, hope for the best and fire up farken if it starts going pear shaped.
 

Sacko

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Bex said:
Sacko, Clarence, you both make good points. I guess we will have to keep an eye on the situation, hope for the best and fire up farken if it starts going pear shaped.

If it isnt too late by then!

Obviously I hope that this will not end up like the Rangers take over of Spirit and to be fair the property deal [Club Mariners] would suggest that this time round the foreign invaders have some skin in the game.

BTW - Clarence how do you intend on fire up if things go pear shaped? Once you've sold your soul to the devil it's his play thing not yours...   
 

Bex

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Sacko said:
BTW - Clarence how do you intend on fire up if things go pear shaped? Once you've sold your soul to the devil it's his play thing not yours...   

One could ask the same thing about what you're going to do about this now......
 

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