Matchday 12 v Entitlement FC

[turbo]

They just showed the angle that he missed it. But it’s 20 mins too late because they are garbage at them so far. One area Fox had them covered even at the end.

 

[Tevor]

Every one can say it's one player or another that contributed to the loss, but only one person on that pitch awarded a very stupid goal.
God I f**king hate Ams.
Won't be surprised if he gets called in for the FFA Cup, with his ability to avoid logic to chase the bigger team.

1000%

 

[Ironbark]

I am a fan of this team. A fitter Nizzy will make a massive difference in the Cup final. Should get more time out of Cummings too who definitely adds quality

 

[Yorkshire Mariners FC]

Did that reply show the ball hitting the arm on the goalline Marco shot. Would that not have been a red card and penalty- just before the Oli goal?

 

[scottmac]

@marinermick apology, you were right, Moresche ain't going to cut it. @Dobbie no apology, you were wrong Moresche is not a starting 11 player.
Kurt Ams changed that game. He called HB on Fazz and if he didn't it doesn't get overturned. His hand was not in an unnatural position and didn't make his body bigger. Knew nothing about it. It's not handball (as i know it, you can all go and get f**ked with the rule is this and that) He forced the linesman to change his decision on the offside on Bobo and if he didn't VAR doesn't overturn it. The c**t is f**ked. Also Cap'n we're sitting together at the cup final cause I've never seen a loss and you seem to attract them so maybe I can cancel you out on Saturday.

 

[shipwreck]

Did that reply show the ball hitting the arm on the goalline Marco shot. Would that not have been a red card and penalty- just before the Oli goal?

Didn't see a single replay on that either.

 

[Ads]

It’s pretty average that coaches can’t comment honoustly without getting fined.

5 minutes stoppage farce.
What does the Var actually see to make decisions.
If Paramount/A-League can’t afford to let fans see the decision making process (aka bunker) maybe just be rid of VAR cause more frustrating than just getting a bad call at this point.

 

[shipwreck]

I've never seen a ref run over to a linesman who had raised his flag for offside.

That's insanely unprofessional, like his whole job is judging offside... Now either Ams knew that Donache missed it, which I f**king doubt. Or he was pressuring him into changing his mind which is what happened

 

[Ironbark]

@marinermick apology, you were right, Moresche ain't going to cut it. @Dobbie no apology, you were wrong Moresche is not a starting 11 player.
Kurt Ams changed that game. He called HB on Fazz and if he didn't it doesn't get overturned. His hand was not in an unnatural position and didn't make his body bigger. Knew nothing about it. It's not handball (as i know it, you can all go and get f**ked with the rule is this and that) He forced the linesman to change his decision on the offside on Bobo and if he didn't VAR doesn't overturn it. The c**t is f**ked

Agree with everything except Moresche. Moresche is great, he'll provide a tonne by end of season

 

[Huddo]

What was Ams logic in over ruling his assistant for the original offside?

Why can't he be answerable to this question, I mean I would love ( just as I think alot of people here) just to understand his train of thought.
Why is he shielded from explaining himself?

 

[Tevor]

@marinermick apology, you were right, Moresche ain't going to cut it. @Dobbie no apology, you were wrong Moresche is not a starting 11 player.
Kurt Ams changed that game. He called HB on Fazz and if he didn't it doesn't get overturned. His hand was not in an unnatural position and didn't make his body bigger. Knew nothing about it. It's not handball (as i know it, you can all go and get f**ked with the rule is this and that) He forced the linesman to change his decision on the offside on Bobo and if he didn't VAR doesn't overturn it. The c**t is f**ked

Yep Ams told VAR all game what the decisions would be, he must be Superman to know Bobo was on side and no one apparently touched the ball. He was too determined on all those decisions.

 

[jacobsfl]

@marinermick apology, you were right, Moresche ain't going to cut it. @Dobbie no apology, you were wrong Moresche is not a starting 11 player.
Kurt Ams changed that game. He called HB on Fazz and if he didn't it doesn't get overturned. His hand was not in an unnatural position and didn't make his body bigger. Knew nothing about it. It's not handball (as i know it, you can all go and get f**ked with the rule is this and that) He forced the linesman to change his decision on the offside on Bobo and if he didn't VAR doesn't overturn it. The c**t is f**ked. Also Cap'n we're sitting together at the cup final cause I've never seen a loss and you seem to attract them so maybe I can cancel you out on Saturday.

Moresche just isn't a wide player. The only gripe I have with him is he seems to drift in and out of games whereas Urena (and Cummings for that matter) seem to be constantly involved. I'm still not sure what to make of him but he's certainly not starting ahead of Cummings based on what I've seen.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

I've never seen a ref run over to a linesman who had raised his flag for offside.

That's insanely unprofessional, like his whole job is judging offside... Now either Ams knew that Donache missed it, which I f**king doubt. Or he was pressuring him into changing his mind which is what happened

Dissenting opinion here....I actually think it's completely appropriate in some situations. Such as this one - ref isn't disputing the relevant positions, but whether there was interfering or whether the person in the middle touched it.

Other cases would be the ones where there's a player interfering with an opponent but not touching the ball.....ref probably has a better view of, say, whether the keeper is blocked, but AR is the one who points out the possible infringement.

Problem here is that we don't know if the VAR said 'no touch in the middle' or if they said 'because our cameras are recycled from ten years ago I can't actually tell' - because if he can't tell, then original ref decision stands - in this case, goal.

Heck, I know sometimes when I've been AR I've had to stand still and call the ref over to say 'I can't tell who touched it in the middle there, but if it was Gosford, then the goalscorer was offside'

 

[Tevor]

Dissenting opinion here....I actually think it's completely appropriate in some situations. Such as this one - ref isn't disputing the relevant positions, but whether there was interfering or whether the person in the middle touched it.

Other cases would be the ones where there's a player interfering with an opponent but not touching the ball.....ref probably has a better view of, say, whether the keeper is blocked, but AR is the one who points out the possible infringement.

Problem here is that we don't know if the VAR said 'no touch in the middle' or if they said 'because our cameras are recycled from ten years ago I can't actually tell' - because if he can't tell, then original ref decision stands - in this case, goal.

Heck, I know sometimes when I've been AR I've had to stand still and call the ref over to say 'I can't tell who touched it in the middle there, but if it was Gosford, then the goalscorer was offside'

Yeah but with Ams suggestion that it was not off side then makes the VAR only decide on an obvious error which it couldn’t. It’s arguable that if the offside remained then the VAR wouldn’t over rule that either. Ams changing the decision was critical IMO. And he knew that.

 

[shipwreck]

It’s pretty average that coaches can’t comment honoustly without getting fined.

5 minutes stoppage farce.
What does the Var actually see to make decisions.
If Paramount/A-League can’t afford to let fans see the decision making process (aka bunker) maybe just be rid of VAR cause more frustrating than just getting a bad call at this point.

This 100%

If you can't broadcast the footage that is being shown in the decision making process than just can it all together.

 

[Corsair]

@Dobbie[/USER] no apology, you were wrong Moresche is not a starting 11 player.

We've literally just signed a new striker. Who's your starting 11?

 

[scottmac]

Agree with everything except Moresche. Moresche is great, he'll provide a tonne by end of season

Hopefully. But now, I don't see it. Once Cummings gets up to speed he doesn't make the 11 and Nizzy is 10 miles infront of him on the wing

 

[Michael]

First half was very annoying that we never adjusted to being over loaded in midfield (stank of stajic stubbornness) luckily Trent buhagiar is an embarrassingly bad “professional footballer”. He f**king sucks and I mean that with every inch of my being.
On us, despite the clear fatigue factor we did deserve to win. Cumdog is a gem and is our first genuine chance of double figure goals from general play in years. We missed Kye so bad especially as Ruon looked done 30-35mins in. Ollie is a god.
Moresche is fine, was just abit off today. He still brings a lot of value going forward, perhaps a little lost out wide. Maybe Monty could tinker with the formation to a 433 to accommodate our weapons.

Kurt Ams strikes again. Bobo’s goal was corrupt.

 

[Tevor]

Hopefully. But now, I don't see it. Once Cummings gets up to speed he doesn't make the 11 and Nizzy is 10 miles infront of him on the wing

Yeah he isn’t a winger, he didn’t look happy to be hooked at half time. Some man management required. I still like him so want to see him succeed for us.

 

[turbo]

Dissenting opinion here....I actually think it's completely appropriate in some situations. Such as this one - ref isn't disputing the relevant positions, but whether there was interfering or whether the person in the middle touched it.

Other cases would be the ones where there's a player interfering with an opponent but not touching the ball.....ref probably has a better view of, say, whether the keeper is blocked, but AR is the one who points out the possible infringement.

Problem here is that we don't know if the VAR said 'no touch in the middle' or if they said 'because our cameras are recycled from ten years ago I can't actually tell' - because if he can't tell, then original ref decision stands - in this case, goal.

Heck, I know sometimes when I've been AR I've had to stand still and call the ref over to say 'I can't tell who touched it in the middle there, but if it was Gosford, then the goalscorer was offside'

Yeah this is what I think he’s done. Assistant raised flag on the assumption of a touch which puts Bobo offside. If ams saw he didn’t he communicated that and changed the decision.

can’t help but feel he’s potentially screwed us on the handball on Farrell and possibly by Sydney in the box but the replays were so poor you really can’t form an educated opinion.