Mariners Squad - HAL 14 - 2018- 2019 - The challenge for Mike Mulvey is over

[Wombat]

Totally agree with you Wombat - Monty is more respected for everything except his coaching and recruitment.

I find a lot of your posts political so I'm sceptical of your comments. The fact you supported Sully over Cahn was alarming.

I will trot along to see Mulvey and Monty in action so I can make up my own mind. I do however enjoy your posts and inside information.

 

[Offsider]

Totally agree with you Wombat - Monty is more respected for everything except his coaching and recruitment.

Sorry .............. have to stick my nose in here ............. not understanding the reply. Well .......... I think I am understanding it but find it disconcerting to say the least from the implications. I think I understand what I think I thought wombat thought he thinks he said ........ but I am not sure I think I thought what Pink lady thought she thinks she said.
The initial post by wombat was a bit broad ......... with no parameters other than the general assistant coaching reference of monty’s ability and popularity ???
Then there is the “totally agree” comment from pink lady ............ followed by the disclaimer of monty’s coaching and recruitment not being included in the totally agree bullshit.

So if wombat’s referance to monty is correct ......... we can look forward to an improved effort from the team this season ....... but if pink lady’s disclaimer is correct ............. we are in for another sullyed crap on.

Ride on unicorn to aldi without delay ............. you know the way ............ our work here is done .

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/mariners-still-paying-part-of-sydney-stars-wages-499095
Wait, what?
May as well have just let him go on the 'okon out' clause...

 

[Ancient Mariner]

As I read it part of the money Roma are paying De Silva is going with him to Sydney while a part is staying with us. ie we are not keeping all of Roma's contribution but sending part of it down the F3.

Sounds to me like we are in front. Although we are not pocketing all of Roma's money, he is gone SFC is making up his wage but we are keeping some of Roma's dosh.

Also reading a bit between the lines he is appearing more and more as a selfish little prick with absolutely no sense of loyalty.

 

[Coastalraider]

As I read it part of the money Roma are paying De Silva is going with him to Sydney while a part is staying with us. ie we are not keeping all of Roma's contribution but sending part of it down the F3.

Sounds to me like we are in front. Although we are not pocketing all of Roma's money, he is gone SFC is making up his wage but we are keeping some of Roma's dosh.

Also reading a bit between the lines he is appearing more and more as a selfish little prick with absolutely no sense of loyalty.

Yeah that’s how I read it as well. But it also sounds like that component that we ar keeping us being counted in the cap, so it means MC is getting revenue, allocating that towards the cap, without actually having to spend it to reach the floor. That would be a a fairly good outcome.

 

[Offsider]

That one wasn't a striker. His first goal was a deflection off the body, he didn't have any idea where the ball was. I (at 70 years of age) could do as well, just stand there and let the ball hit me!

You can correct me here but ............ that would have made him “a strucker” ........... technically a “ deflective strucker”......... hereinafter to be referred to in the manner of this forum as a ds. If he decided he didn’t want to play some games it would make him defiant, in which case he would be known as dds ............... oh wait !!! .............. that has already gone

No .......... nothing to see here ???? What a waste

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

That one wasn't a striker. His first goal was a deflection off the body, he didn't have any idea where the ball was. I (at 70 years of age) could do as well, just stand there and let the ball hit me!

He should have accidentally scored more goals than he did...

 

[Wombat]

Sorry .............. have to stick my nose in here ............. not understanding the reply. Well .......... I think I am understanding it but find it disconcerting to say the least from the implications. I think I understand what I think I thought wombat thought he thinks he said ........ but I am not sure I think I thought what Pink lady thought she thinks she said.
The initial post by wombat was a bit broad ......... with no parameters other than the general assistant coaching reference of monty’s ability and popularity ???
Then there is the “totally agree” comment from pink lady ............ followed by the disclaimer of monty’s coaching and recruitment not being included in the totally agree bullshit.

So if wombat’s referance to monty is correct ......... we can look forward to an improved effort from the team this season ....... but if pink lady’s disclaimer is correct ............. we are in for another sullyed crap on.

Ride on unicorn to aldi without delay ............. you know the way ............ our work here is done .

f**k me Offy…………….that Merlot must be strong!

 

[Wombat]

Totally agree with you Wombat - Monty is more respected for everything except his coaching and recruitment.

Can you fill me in on the successes of Sully's coaching and recruitments thus far.

 

[Antlion]

Back to some actual football ay

3-4-3 >>> thoughts? I'm not familiar enough with structures efficacy to know how or if this could work for us?

Central Coast Mariners’ best 11 so far
By That A-League Fan | 12 hours ago

Central Coast finished the 2017-18 A-League season poorly after losing 8-2 to their rivals Newcastle Jets.

Since Wellington defeated Melbourne City 2-1 in Round 27, Central Coast finished with the wooden spoon for the second time in three seasons.

Mike Mulvey has a completely different squad to work with, after deciding to clean out his team of first team players.

Wout Brama who had a poor season, Alan Baro and Trent Buhagiar (who made an eventual move to Sydney FC) had their contract’s terminated.

Experienced players Jacob Poscoliero, Blake Powell, Storm Roux, Joshua Rose and youngsters Liam Rose, Tom Glover and Peter Skapetis departed. Unimpressive but promising Daniel De Silva moved on loan to Sydney FC.

In fact, only 10 players remain from the squad last season. Last season’s squad didn’t look all that bad for them, but they finished at the bottom of the table. What happened?

Formation: 3-4-3 flat
Goalkeeper: Ben Kennedy
Central Coast’s best performer in the 2017-18 season, he should get the nod ahead of Adam Pearce and Joe Gauci. Has been a professional goalkeeper in the A-League for many years now, most notably for rivals Newcastle Jets.

Defenders: Kye Rowles, Kalifa Cisse, Antony Golec
Kye Rowles played 11 times for Central Coast last season and Antony Golec started 22 times alongside Alan Baro. Was one of Central Coast’s few impressive player and should continue in Central Defense.

Kye Rowles will get the nod ahead of Jonathan Aspropotamitis because he played more minutes last season, and Aspropotamitis just joined the club.
isse has played all over the world for many years and his experience would be valuable in his defensive partnership with Golec and Rowles. Played in England from 2007-12.

Midfielders: Jake McGing, Tom Hiraiej, Michael McGlinchey, Jack Clisby
Jake McGing will most likely play as a right wing-back position under Mulvey. Has played in that position under Mulvey in the latter part of the A-League season.

Jack Clisby is a natural full back, so will need to adapt to his new left wing-back position under Mike Mulvey. It will be difficult, especially since he didn’t play regularly last season.

Hiariej will partner former New Zealend international McGlinchey in Central Midfield, although the latter is more attacking minded. McGlinchey has played almost 200 games in the A-League, so he provides experience in the middle of the park. Would be the ideal replacement for Brama, who didn’t partner well with Hiariej.

Forwards: Andrew Hoole, Matt Simon, Connor Pain
Wingers Hoole and Pain played relatively well last season with four goals apiece and eight assists altogether.

Both only 24, they still have lots of A-League experience and can cause headache’s for any defense. Especially Hoole winning 68 fouls, putting in 50 key passes and going on 67 successful dribbles last season.

Matt Simon is approaching the back end of his career but scored twice at the end of the 2017-18 season. Needs to be more consistent finding the net because being on another goal scoring drought will not do.

Substitutes: Adam Pearce, Jonathan Aspropotamitis, Jacob Melling, Mario Shabow, Corey Gameiro
Pearce is a goalkeeper who will most likely get the nod ahead of Joe Gauci who recently joined the club. Was third choice keeper last season, but the departure of Tom Glover means that he is now a substitute.

Aspropotamitis is a solid choice and can replace either Rowles, Cisse or Golec. Should challenge for a Starting XI spot and has played nearly 50 times in the A-League. He was also the Under-23 Socceroos Captain in 2017.

Jacob Melling has played around 60 A-League appearances and played regularly after coming to Gosford. Looks to be a Starting XI member in future seasons.

Mario Shabow looks promising with 21 games with the Western Sydney Wanderers reserves and seven goals two season’s ago before playing seven games with runners up Newcastle Jets.

Corey Gamerio is a striker who hasn’t scored for nearly four years, due to injury concerns. Looked dangerous in attack whenever he came off the bench and had a shot, with 70% of them on target. Needs to score and put an end to his drought.

Reserves: Joe Gauci, Adam Berry, Peter Kerkeris
Gauci has played regularly as a goalkeeper in the National Premier League, but doesn’t look to challenge Adam Pearce.

Adam Berry has played 24 times for Central Coast since 2015 but only managed to play 15 minutes last season.

Peter Kekeris
Played in the FFA CoE a few seasons ago and was in the Central Coast Mariners Academy last season. Played 34 games, and scored 4 goals.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/07/26/central-coast-mariners-best-11-far/

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Back to some actual football ay

3-4-3 >>> thoughts? I'm not familiar enough with structures efficacy to know how or if this could work for us?

Central Coast Mariners’ best 11 so far
By That A-League Fan | 12 hours ago

Central Coast finished the 2017-18 A-League season poorly after losing 8-2 to their rivals Newcastle Jets.

Since Wellington defeated Melbourne City 2-1 in Round 27, Central Coast finished with the wooden spoon for the second time in three seasons.

Mike Mulvey has a completely different squad to work with, after deciding to clean out his team of first team players.

Wout Brama who had a poor season, Alan Baro and Trent Buhagiar (who made an eventual move to Sydney FC) had their contract’s terminated.

Experienced players Jacob Poscoliero, Blake Powell, Storm Roux, Joshua Rose and youngsters Liam Rose, Tom Glover and Peter Skapetis departed. Unimpressive but promising Daniel De Silva moved on loan to Sydney FC.

In fact, only 10 players remain from the squad last season. Last season’s squad didn’t look all that bad for them, but they finished at the bottom of the table. What happened?

Formation: 3-4-3 flat
Goalkeeper: Ben Kennedy
Central Coast’s best performer in the 2017-18 season, he should get the nod ahead of Adam Pearce and Joe Gauci. Has been a professional goalkeeper in the A-League for many years now, most notably for rivals Newcastle Jets.

Defenders: Kye Rowles, Kalifa Cisse, Antony Golec
Kye Rowles played 11 times for Central Coast last season and Antony Golec started 22 times alongside Alan Baro. Was one of Central Coast’s few impressive player and should continue in Central Defense.

Kye Rowles will get the nod ahead of Jonathan Aspropotamitis because he played more minutes last season, and Aspropotamitis just joined the club.
isse has played all over the world for many years and his experience would be valuable in his defensive partnership with Golec and Rowles. Played in England from 2007-12.

Midfielders: Jake McGing, Tom Hiraiej, Michael McGlinchey, Jack Clisby
Jake McGing will most likely play as a right wing-back position under Mulvey. Has played in that position under Mulvey in the latter part of the A-League season.

Jack Clisby is a natural full back, so will need to adapt to his new left wing-back position under Mike Mulvey. It will be difficult, especially since he didn’t play regularly last season.

Hiariej will partner former New Zealend international McGlinchey in Central Midfield, although the latter is more attacking minded. McGlinchey has played almost 200 games in the A-League, so he provides experience in the middle of the park. Would be the ideal replacement for Brama, who didn’t partner well with Hiariej.

Forwards: Andrew Hoole, Matt Simon, Connor Pain
Wingers Hoole and Pain played relatively well last season with four goals apiece and eight assists altogether.

Both only 24, they still have lots of A-League experience and can cause headache’s for any defense. Especially Hoole winning 68 fouls, putting in 50 key passes and going on 67 successful dribbles last season.

Matt Simon is approaching the back end of his career but scored twice at the end of the 2017-18 season. Needs to be more consistent finding the net because being on another goal scoring drought will not do.

Substitutes: Adam Pearce, Jonathan Aspropotamitis, Jacob Melling, Mario Shabow, Corey Gameiro
Pearce is a goalkeeper who will most likely get the nod ahead of Joe Gauci who recently joined the club. Was third choice keeper last season, but the departure of Tom Glover means that he is now a substitute.

Aspropotamitis is a solid choice and can replace either Rowles, Cisse or Golec. Should challenge for a Starting XI spot and has played nearly 50 times in the A-League. He was also the Under-23 Socceroos Captain in 2017.

Jacob Melling has played around 60 A-League appearances and played regularly after coming to Gosford. Looks to be a Starting XI member in future seasons.

Mario Shabow looks promising with 21 games with the Western Sydney Wanderers reserves and seven goals two season’s ago before playing seven games with runners up Newcastle Jets.

Corey Gamerio is a striker who hasn’t scored for nearly four years, due to injury concerns. Looked dangerous in attack whenever he came off the bench and had a shot, with 70% of them on target. Needs to score and put an end to his drought.

Reserves: Joe Gauci, Adam Berry, Peter Kerkeris
Gauci has played regularly as a goalkeeper in the National Premier League, but doesn’t look to challenge Adam Pearce.

Adam Berry has played 24 times for Central Coast since 2015 but only managed to play 15 minutes last season.

Peter Kekeris
Played in the FFA CoE a few seasons ago and was in the Central Coast Mariners Academy last season. Played 34 games, and scored 4 goals.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/07/26/central-coast-mariners-best-11-far/

Welcome to the forum mate look forward to reading your contributions. Unfortunately Aspro and Golec won't be ready by the game against Adelaide and there is apparently a lot of concern regarding getting Cisse's visa in time. I fear our defence will be very make shift, who is the Academy right/left back?

 

[pjennings]

Welcome to the forum Antlion.

The writer says that that 3-4-3 flat is Mulvey's preferred formation, and that is what Transfermarket says as well. However, when we spoke to Mike on the day he was announced he seemed to intimate that he is more pragmatic than that and would design formation/s around the players that he has. One thing I will say is that he is not particularly a fan of long ball play.

Given that a lot of managers these days like to have two players for each position I really don't think we have the squad that fits this formation. Thinks may change in the coming weeks but I can't see us go with other than a back four.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

I find this one of the more worrying posts on this forum.

In the past I have found pinklady to be pretty much on the money.

Yeah I’m hoping this just proves she’s human. Have a lot of respect for Monty.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Welcome to the forum Antlion.

The writer says that that 3-4-3 flat is Mulvey's preferred formation, and that is what Transfermarket says as well. However, when we spoke to Mike on the day he was announced he seemed to intimate that he is more pragmatic than that and would design formation/s around the players that he has. One thing I will say is that he is not particularly a fan of long ball play.

Given that a lot of managers these days like to have two players for each position I really don't think we have the squad that fits this formation. Thinks may change in the coming weeks but I can't see us go with other than a back four.

Yes exactly my first thoughts as well. 343 would be a pretty big surprise. Given it means until we sign more players and Aspro is fit, we would be missing like for like cover in vital defensive positions. Which is obviously madness. Have we signed Millar? Or was that just a rumour?

Also the value of having a formation of which one of it's main strengths would be being able to mobilise a 7 man attack, by having high wingbacks... as in that means we can unleash the attacking might of McGing and Clisby? I'm more than a little skeptical of this approach.

The 4th man in the mids means we have width. But the difference between flat and a diamond is essentially no designated screener so the central pairing have to be careful that they both don't get caught forward at the same time or you're obviously very vulnerable to counters. Though Tom clearly has the smarts for this. And Weemac is a clever experienced player also.

Still... for now our depth lies in defensive mids x 3 and (on pure squad numbers) in our attacking mids x 6. So a 4231 seems the most pragmatic. And it's popular for a reason. Well balanced and means there's consistently a player in every section of the pitch. This or a 433.

If we turn out with a 343? Shit... game on I guess... Mariners are here to play attacking football FTW.

 

[MagpieMariner]

Isn't that the definition of a striker though? ;-)
Heck - the still angry and frustrated Danish side of me would point out that part of the Socceroos approach was relying on the opposing defenders to do that And then pay for a ridiculous VAR call - but that's beside the point ;-)

At the core though, is an argument that it's about positioning first. If you score using your but, no one will care as long as you do it consistently after all

That was the trouble with him, he only did it once.

 

[Offsider]

Can you fill me in on the successes of Sully's coaching and recruitments thus far.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Yes exactly my first thoughts as well. 343 would be a pretty big surprise. Given it means until we sign more players and Aspro is fit, we would be missing like for like cover in vital defensive positions. Which is obviously madness. Have we signed Millar? Or was that just a rumour?

Also the value of having a formation of which one of it's main strengths would be being able to mobilise a 7 man attack, by having high wingbacks... as in that means we can unleash the attacking might of McGing and Clisby? I'm more than a little skeptical of this approach.

The 4th man in the mids means we have width. But the difference between flat and a diamond is essentially no designated screener so the central pairing have to be careful that they both don't get caught forward at the same time or you're obviously very vulnerable to counters. Though Tom clearly has the smarts for this. And Weemac is a clever experienced player also.

Still... for now our depth lies in defensive mids x 3 and (on pure squad numbers) in our attacking mids x 6. So a 4231 seems the most pragmatic. And it's popular for a reason. Well balanced and means there's consistently a player in every section of the pitch. This or a 433.

If we turn out with a 343? Shit... game on I guess... Mariners are here to play attacking football FTW.

Millar is still just a rumour perpetuated by FourFourTwo.

 

[Antlion]

So is the wolves player, yes?

 

[Woollybutt]

So is the wolves player, yes?

That one's a rumour perpetuated by Medium

 

[Luca Brasi]

Central Coast Mariners’ best 11 so far

That is a pretty ordinary A League starting 11, unless they or the subs can step up big time this season Mulvey will really need to be a magician.