Mariners Squad 2024/2025 ALM and ACL Elite

[shipwreck]

It's going to be a glorified youth league.

 

[turbo]

Given the costs involved in travel, accommodation, troughs for dignitaries, increased quality of the opposition, and the reduced ability to acquire our own talent [gee thanks APL] I doubt that we will progress far in the ACL. It may be a blessing to be knocked out early rather than go further and committing costs before getting a rude awakening.

The reduced distribution is horrible timing for us. If the AFC hadn't upped the payment for showing up the situation would be even worse. Punished for success.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

The reduced distribution is horrible timing for us. If the AFC hadn't upped the payment for showing up the situation would be even worse. Punished for success.

 

[Stuartmcateer]

. Punished for success.

Punished for mismanagement by the APL is more the scenario.

Everyone is getting less money, not just us because of the success.

Yes we will have increased costs in participating but we can always decline the spot and have zero extra costs. 🤷🏻‍♂️

This is where the head office earn their money - realistically it shouldn't be impossible to find sponsorship for a guaranteed 8 games of flooding your brand on prime time across Asia.

 

[turbo]

Yes we will have increased costs in participating but we can always decline the spot and have zero extra costs.

I'm don't think that's an option. And it's not like Aus can opt out without sanctions from the AFC either.

 

[Corsair]

I'm don't think that's an option

It is.

The prize money is decent though and we get 1.2million aud just for taking part.

The breakdown of the ACL Elite Champion’s prize money is:

Qualification for the tournament: USD $800,000
Qualification for Round of 16: USD $200,000
Qualification for Quarter-Finals: USD $400,000
Qualification for Semi-Finals: USD $600,000
Champion: USD $10 million

 

[Stuartmcateer]

I'm don't think that's an option. And it's not like Aus can opt out without sanctions from the AFC either.

There are provisions for withdrawal that carry some sanctions.

AFC really don't like Australia (we just take a spot from "proper" Asian countries/clubs) and probably wouldn't care less if we pulled out.

 

[Kripple]

There are provisions for withdrawal that carry some sanctions.

AFC really don't like Australia (we just take a spot from "proper" Asian countries/clubs) and probably wouldn't care less if we pulled out.

Why would we pull out when we are guaranteed $1.2 mill? Have to cover 4 x OS trips plus I assume we get the takings from 4 home games. As mentioned elsewhere should be able to also pick up decent sponsorship for the rights to 8 matches min.
Plus the possibility of extra $300K prize money if we finish in the top 8 of our 12 team comp.

 

[Stuartmcateer]

Why would we pull out when we are guaranteed $1.2 mill? Have to cover 4 x OS trips plus I assume we get the takings from 4 home games. As mentioned elsewhere should be able to also pick up decent sponsorship for the rights to 8 matches min.
Plus the possibility of extra $300K prize money if we finish in the top 8 of our 12 team comp.

I'm not saying we SHOULD pull out. But if it's the difference between going bust or survival then it's an option.

The 1.2 million (plus maybe 300k) barely gets us back to even after the cuts. Then we still have the regular season expenditure plus the ACL to fund.

If the club are smart they will be lining up sponsorship with companies that have a substantial presence in Japan, China and Korea (coz we aren't getting a game against Johor or Buriram))

 

[shipwreck]

Pre season starts next week, need some signing announcements soon, simples.

Goalkeeper first please

 

[Big Al]

It's going to be a glorified youth league.

The league is due for regeneration and i think it will be fun and unpredictable.

Might help a few kids break through to go overseas or push for the Socceroos in a couple of years.

WSW SFC us are all ready for it. Although we need another bunch to start coming through in another 12months but are good for now.

WSW will be better because that’s who they should be but always think they are too big for it

 

[turbo]

he league is due for regeneration and i think it will be fun and unpredictable.

Might help a few kids break through to go overseas or push for the Socceroos in a couple of years.

I dont see it as terribly different to what happened with COVID. New players will stand up and the value of journeymen will be reconsidered

 

[Big Al]

I dont see it as terribly different to what happened with COVID. New players will stand up and the value of journeymen will be reconsidered

Yep. And a lot of the journey men are now past it. No room for Topor Jurmans Brillante Antonis Hoofman and plenty others

Plus the new breed are full blown curriculum now so will be interesting to see. Some have some good skills but game management is not one of them.

 

[FFC Mariner]

The league is due for regeneration and i think it will be fun and unpredictable.

Might help a few kids break through to go overseas or push for the Socceroos in a couple of years.

WSW SFC us are all ready for it. Although we need another bunch to start coming through in another 12months but are good for now.

WSW will be better because that’s who they should be but always think they are too big for it

Wanderers have some great young players who have been well coached and have Staj to blood them.
Expect them to move towards what they always should have been

 

[Corsair]

Yep. And a lot of the journey men are now past it. No room for Topor Jurmans Brillante Antonis Hoofman and plenty others

Plus the new breed are full blown curriculum now so will be interesting to see. Some have some good skills but game management is not one of them.

I guess we don't have any antiques at least, that's a positive.

 

[Josho Howe]

I actively avoid FB comments for a reason. Some of the whinging over letting players move on to other opportunities when we've won 4 trophies in 12 months is so f**king embarrassing. JFC, it's July, business of player incomings is to come in the weeks and months ahead. Also, the signings made by other clubs so far have not impressed me at all in the slightest. Lots of the merry-go-round.

We
Are
Fine
FFS

 

[FFC Mariner]

I actively avoid FB comments for a reason. Some of the whinging over letting players move on to other opportunities when we've won 4 trophies in 12 months is so f**king embarrassing. JFC, it's July, business of player incomings is to come in the weeks and months ahead. Also, the signings made by other clubs so far have not impressed me at all in the slightest. Lots of the merry-go-round.

We
Are
Fine
FFS

This
This
This
In Jacko we trust

 

[Allreet?]

Some decent news for the future of the AL and the NT...

Your guide to the A-Leagues whiz kids who ended Australia's 5-year drought: Remember these names

Here is a look at the A-Leagues talents who became Asian champions this week and where they are playing their football.

aleagues.com.au

 

[midfielder]

Some decent news for the future of the AL and the NT...

Your guide to the A-Leagues whiz kids who ended Australia's 5-year drought: Remember these names

Here is a look at the A-Leagues talents who became Asian champions this week and where they are playing their football.

aleagues.com.au

good sign

 

[style_cafe]

So people think we could use another midfielder. Harry picked up a few knocks this season and Tappy is banking on his knee holding up. Not sure what we have as cover if one goes down. I think we need a top CB and a quality attacking player.
MJ like to play with two tens and two sixes so might dictate the type of player he goes for.
Will be interesting to see what happens with DWH. Apparently on big money. Can we afford to have him sit on the bench and take up a wage?

The way it`s going with the $$ DWH may be the new goalkeeper...