Mariners Squad - 2019-2020

[Forum Phoenix]

I have no knowledge of the financials, But based on what we seem to spend and recruit, I don’t think our budget allows for six quality visa players. And there’s no point spending money (and the time finding and signing) on players unless they’re clearly better than what can be sourced here.

So I think we have to triage our priorities.
For mine in order of priority, it’s Striker, 10, CB, Winger, DM...

And I think to get proper versions of the first 3 spots, we may need to forget spots 4,5 and 6 so we can have players worth having in 1,2,3.

 

[jacobsfl]

I have no knowledge of the financials, But based on what we seem to spend and recruit, I don’t think our budget allows for six quality visa players. And there’s no point spending money (and the time finding and signing) on players unless they’re clearly better than what can be sourced here.

So I think we have to triage our priorities.
For mine in order of priority, it’s Striker, 10, CB, Winger, DM...

And I think to get proper versions of the first 3 spots, we may need to forget spots 4,5 and 6 so we can, players worth having in 1,2,3.

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I think we spend 1,2 and 3 on a CB, #10 and #9. I could potentially see us getting a 4th in a GK, which I imagine wouldn't take too much of a cap hit. I feel there is enough talent in the country to fill the other positions.

 

[pjennings]

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I think we spend 1,2 and 3 on a CB, #10 and #9. I could potentially see us getting a 4th in a GK, which I imagine wouldn't take too much of a cap hit. I feel there is enough talent in the country to fill the other positions.

I agree with your priority - and suspect a visa GK is likley if we can't hold Birighitti - but we have paid a lot for players who have not delivered this year whether visa or Australian who are off contract. When you look at the money we are probably paying for Oar, Simon, McGlinchey, Melling, Jair, Fox, Majok and Shabow then the money is there for better visa and/or Australian players

 

[turbo]

I think Halloran's directness, along with Harold, would give us the speed to get in behind defences that we just haven't done this season.

He just re-signed with Adelaide for 2 years

 

[jacobsfl]

He just re-signed with Adelaide for 2 years

Can't say I'm surprised.

I agree with your priority - and suspect a visa GK is likley if we can't hold Birighitti - but we have paid a lot for players who have not delivered this year whether visa or Australian who are off contract. When you look at the money we are probably paying for Oar, Simon, McGlinchey, Melling, Jair, Fox, Majok and Shabow then the money is there for better visa and/or Australian players

Yes. Hopefully the dead wood can clear out so that Staj can purchase players he needs. The Mulvey era of recruitment was very destructive.

Oar was an embarrassing error.

 

[turbo]

If we aren’t in a position to use all of our visa spaces effectively whether that’s 5 or 6 I wouldn’t mind seeing us look for a development prospect in a lower tier like J2, K2 leagues or lower ranked football nations like Thailand, Vietnam etc.. all depends if the money works out but I have to wonder if someone we can sell to another A league club as a decent +1 for ACL is worth pursuing.

 

[onto it]

If we aren’t in a position to use all of our visa spaces effectively whether that’s 5 or 6 I wouldn’t mind seeing us look for a development prospect in a lower tier like J2, K2 leagues or lower ranked football nations like Thailand, Vietnam etc.. all depends if the money works out but I have to wonder if someone we can sell to another A league club as a decent +1 for ACL is worth pursuing.

The stupid thing is we can't 'sell' to another A-League club. It's against the rules. I guess we could hand them over, however in most cases this would require backhand inducements the value of a seaside mansion.

 

[turbo]

The stupid thing is we can't 'sell' to another A-League club. It's against the rules. I guess we could hand them over, however in most cases this would require backhand inducements the value of a seaside mansion.

That seems like it's high on the agenda for both the clubs and new head of the FFA. I wouldn't be surprised if its in place before next season along with some cap changes.

 

[possum x]

In my opinion, Nizzy, Stens, Miller and hopefully Kuol are all A-League level talent. Our youth setup has produced some quality players, I hold onto hope these four are part of the new batch

Monty doing a class job.

In my opinion all four are all a league level, Monty had nothing to do with their development

 

[jacobsfl]

Monty had nothing to do with their development

I beg to differ.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

In my opinion all four are all a league level, Monty had nothing to do with their development

how do you figure that, given they came up through him?

 

[FFC Mariner]

Nizz was a Ben Cahn signing
Nothing to do with Monty

 

[turbo]

https://www.ccmariners.com.au/news/alou-kuols-big-week-continues-scholarship-deal

I'm confused how long this locks him in for. End of season or does it cover next season too? A few here were saying he isnt sticking around.

 

[pjennings]

It says 20/21.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

A few here sometimes speak crap.

 

[pjennings]

Well at least we can field a team next season - 11 signed

 

[Michael]

https://www.ccmariners.com.au/news/alou-kuols-big-week-continues-scholarship-deal

I'm confused how long this locks him in for. End of season or does it cover next season too? A few here were saying he isnt sticking around.

DRD’s scholarship statement didn’t have a length date either but the quotes said “next couple seasons”

 

[turbo]

It says 20/21.

Cheers. Not sure if I missed it or if it was missing initially. Glad it’s not looking like a short term cap make up deal then leave.

 

[midfielder]

Well at least we can field a team next season - 11 signed

If you have them at hand can you list them ....

Sounds to me, and I could be wrong, but are we signing a talented bunch of kids and I assume at the bottom end of the salary to free up funds to buy say a solid spine and keeper...

Thats the positive message I guess... I genuinely fear for the club if we have another crap year... I strongly feel club management needs to take ownership of our position and explain in some detail what the propose to do about it and I mean before the season ends ... On Monday I had a new client a Football hard core rusted on... up until two years ago never missed a Mariner's home game... today has lost all interest in Hal and the Mariners... I asked why and he said and I surprised nay amazed [hhhmmm not really], say astonished at his answer.... he said he could put up with crap play and being beaten... its hard when players seem to give up.... but when management gave up he said he left and as he sees it MC and our management team are not trying to improve anything simply trying to spend as little as possible...

 

[Big Al]

https://www.ccmariners.com.au/news/alou-kuols-big-week-continues-scholarship-deal

I'm confused how long this locks him in for. End of season or does it cover next season too? A few here were saying he isnt sticking around.

Straight into Nizzy’s scholarship spot by looks of it.

Good business and interesting to see he’d been over a sporting Lisbon to learn a little. While not totally obvious we are doing some good things with these youth kids and giving opportunities for them to learn and be seen.
Just don’t want them leaving for nothing.