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Mariners deny Singo's exit spells financial doom

neverwozza

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dibo said:
c**ting c**t c**t joe meissner.

I think this is what happened to the last bloke that spoke about him like that

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midfielder

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http://www.theworldgame.com.au/a-league/sydney-bid-firms-for-licence-205002

The Sydney A-League bid spearheaded by property developer Joe Meissner, former Young Socceroo Ian Rowden and one-time NSL stalwart Berti Mariani has emerged as a favourite to snare the 12th A-League licence for entry into the competition in 2010-2011
 

Jesus

Jesus
midfielder said:
http://www.theworldgame.com.au/a-league/sydney-bid-firms-for-licence-205002

The Sydney A-League bid spearheaded by property developer Joe Meissner, former Young Socceroo Ian Rowden and one-time NSL stalwart Berti Mariani has emerged as a favourite to snare the 12th A-League licence for entry into the competition in 2010-2011

It is not mentioned at all in the article, except that meissner says we have ticked all boxes, cant talk for other bids, who may have or not. So the headline is a leap with no suggestion from the ffa or even meissner. Just meissner talking up his own bid.
 

elevated position

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Why not ask every business on the coast to pay . say $1000 for a "family" pass with three tickets in the name of their business. That will make it a promotinal deal for the business's clients and threr fore tax deductible. might drag in a hundred or so
 

clarence

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elevated position said:
Why not ask every business on the coast to pay . say $1000 for a "family" pass with three tickets in the name of their business. That will make it a promotinal deal for the business's clients and threr fore tax deductible. might drag in a hundred or so

Don't know how this sort of expense would become tax deductible or not attract FBT if it was allowable? Are you sure this sort of ticket buying alone is enough to make it tax deductible?

Better off having a priority Bay allocated for small business 'sponsors', and having them contribute say, $1000 for a season and they are entitled to 3 or 4 tickets per game for the privilege. Maybe lay on some sort of waiting service for them (have a guy or girl go around taking orders and getting the food or drinks for them -they will have to pay for the food and drinks though) and locate the dedicated bay say close to halfway line.

I think the NRL teams do some things like that with smaller businesses who cannot fork out full sponsorship or afford a corporate box but want to get involved somehow.

All that said, though, I doubt there's many small businesses who would be keen to part with a lazy $1000 if they had it available through their business, in these times.
 

midfielder

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clarence said:
elevated position said:
Why not ask every business on the coast to pay . say $1000 for a "family" pass with three tickets in the name of their business. That will make it a promotinal deal for the business's clients and threr fore tax deductible. might drag in a hundred or so

Don't know how this sort of expense would become tax deductible or not attract FBT if it was allowable? Are you sure this sort of ticket buying alone is enough to make it tax deductible?

Better off having a priority Bay allocated for small business 'sponsors', and having them contribute say, $1000 for a season and they are entitled to 3 or 4 tickets per game for the privilege. Maybe lay on some sort of waiting service for them (have a guy or girl go around taking orders and getting the food or drinks for them -they will have to pay for the food and drinks though) and locate the dedicated bay say close to halfway line.

I think the NRL teams do some things like that with smaller businesses who cannot fork out full sponsorship or afford a corporate box but want to get involved somehow.

All that said, though, I doubt there's many small businesses who would be keen to part with a lazy $1000 if they had it available through their business, in these times.

Depends how its done ... but if the tickets where brought as part of a marketing budget they would be tax deductible... as a marketing expense..
 

MrCelery

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midfielder said:
http://www.theworldgame.com.au/a-league/sydney-bid-firms-for-licence-205002

The Sydney A-League bid spearheaded by property developer Joe Meissner, former Young Socceroo Ian Rowden and one-time NSL stalwart Berti Mariani has emerged as a favourite to snare the 12th A-League licence for entry into the competition in 2010-2011

Marconi Fairfield from the old NSL in disguise?

Actually, I don't have a problem with that. Their Club is a palace, and they had a tidy little stadium. Not up to A-League standards though, unless they redevelop it.

Sure they were Italian backed, but they were the least 'ethnic' of the ethnic clubs of the time. I always felt very welcome there. They'd be no more ethnic a club than Dutch backed Brisbane Lions.
 

Arabmariner

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MrCelery said:
midfielder said:
http://www.theworldgame.com.au/a-league/sydney-bid-firms-for-licence-205002

The Sydney A-League bid spearheaded by property developer Joe Meissner, former Young Socceroo Ian Rowden and one-time NSL stalwart Berti Mariani has emerged as a favourite to snare the 12th A-League licence for entry into the competition in 2010-2011

Marconi Fairfield from the old NSL in disguise?

Actually, I don't have a problem with that. Their Club is a palace, and they had a tidy little stadium. Not up to A-League standards though, unless they redevelop it.

Sure they were Italian backed, but they were the least 'ethnic' of the ethnic clubs of the time. I always felt very welcome there. They'd be no more ethnic a club than Dutch backed Brisbane Lions.
I never really followed anyone in the old NSL apart from attending a couple of Northern Spirit games out of curiosity on a Friday night after work.

But when I first came to Oz in 1990 I lived for a while with a mate at Bonnyrigg and went to a few games at Marconi and never felt out of place or as if I didn't belong there.

As Mr Celery said it wasn't a bad little stadium.3 or 4,000 in there had a better atmosphere than double that at BT tbh.

There was a lot of things wrong with the old NSL but imo Marconi wasn't one of them.
 

marinermick

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Arabmariner said:
MrCelery said:
midfielder said:
http://www.theworldgame.com.au/a-league/sydney-bid-firms-for-licence-205002

The Sydney A-League bid spearheaded by property developer Joe Meissner, former Young Socceroo Ian Rowden and one-time NSL stalwart Berti Mariani has emerged as a favourite to snare the 12th A-League licence for entry into the competition in 2010-2011

Marconi Fairfield from the old NSL in disguise?

Actually, I don't have a problem with that. Their Club is a palace, and they had a tidy little stadium. Not up to A-League standards though, unless they redevelop it.

Sure they were Italian backed, but they were the least 'ethnic' of the ethnic clubs of the time. I always felt very welcome there. They'd be no more ethnic a club than Dutch backed Brisbane Lions.
There was a lot of things wrong with the old NSL but imo Marconi wasn't one of them.

*cough* labrozettas *cough*
 

Arabmariner

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marinermick said:
Arabmariner said:
MrCelery said:
midfielder said:
http://www.theworldgame.com.au/a-league/sydney-bid-firms-for-licence-205002

The Sydney A-League bid spearheaded by property developer Joe Meissner, former Young Socceroo Ian Rowden and one-time NSL stalwart Berti Mariani has emerged as a favourite to snare the 12th A-League licence for entry into the competition in 2010-2011

Marconi Fairfield from the old NSL in disguise?

Actually, I don't have a problem with that. Their Club is a palace, and they had a tidy little stadium. Not up to A-League standards though, unless they redevelop it.

Sure they were Italian backed, but they were the least 'ethnic' of the ethnic clubs of the time. I always felt very welcome there. They'd be no more ethnic a club than Dutch backed Brisbane Lions.
There was a lot of things wrong with the old NSL but imo Marconi wasn't one of them.

*cough* labrozettas *cough*
lol

Forgot about him..... :-[....the minds getting old!!

But what I was getting at was more from a neutral spectators point of view that I never felt out of place watching a game there which was the complete opposite to the feeling I got when I watched a game at Sydney Croatia for example (once only).....bad feeling of I'm in the wrong place here!
 

clarence

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marinermick said:
*cough* labrozettas *cough*


Feeling better now Marinermick? Glad you got that nasty bit of NSL flashback off your chest!  ;)  ;D

I'd suggest you take a good read of The Crawford Report and go to bed early and all will be well in the morning!  :tv:
 

marinermick

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clarence said:
marinermick said:
*cough* labrozettas *cough*

Feeling better now Marinermick? Glad you got that nasty bit of NSL flashback off your chest!  ;)  ;D

I'd suggest you take a good read of The Crawford Report and go to bed early and all will be well in the morning!  :tv:


ugly reading the crawford report and i have first hand experience of the old nsl while working for sydney united during the hill era at soccer australia

both sydney united and marconi were quite active in holding on to old nsl ways and alienating the majority of football supporters in australia

unfortunately marconi and the labrozetta brothers were at the core of everything that was wrong in the old nsl and spread their influence very strongly across the other "ethnic' clubs
 

clarence

Well-Known Member
What are the Labbozettas doing these days? Do they still 'run' Marconi?

The real worry (and THIS actually is relevant to the Thread Title, lol) is that A-League clubs will attract similar types of people (as the Labbozettas) to their Board through investment and sponsorships & end up with the same issues that dogged the NSL clubs.

While some may moan about Singo no longer being involved, the Mariners have to be careful about who they get on board too. No doubt people like Lyall, Lawrie and PT (who all had experience with these types of people under the old NSL), will be aware of who to knock back for deals and to see what people have intended when they offer money for sponsorships and investment.

The game in Australia is so much bigger than when the NSL was happening, and really there's now a significant amount of money, and a lot of Goodwill been built up, since the A-League started and the FFA implemented the changes to the way things are done.
 

Jesus

Jesus
clarence said:
What are the Labbozettas doing these days? Do they still 'run' Marconi?

The real worry (and THIS actually is relevant to the Thread Title, lol) is that A-League clubs will attract similar types of people (as the Labbozettas) to their Board through investment and sponsorships & end up with the same issues that dogged the NSL clubs.

While some may moan about Singo no longer being involved, the Mariners have to be careful about who they get on board too. No doubt people like Lyall, Lawrie and PT (who all had experience with these types of people under the old NSL), will be aware of who to knock back for deals and to see what people have intended when they offer money for sponsorships and investment.

The game in Australia is so much bigger than when the NSL was happening, and really there's now a significant amount of money, and a lot of Goodwill been built up, since the A-League started and the FFA implemented the changes to the way things are done.

The difference is that ultimately in the a-league you have a licence, which makes you more answerable to the FFA legally. At some stage that will be to the League itself when they set up a seperate body
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
Jesus
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The difference is that ultimately in the a-league you have a licence, which makes you more answerable to the FFA legally. At some stage that will be to the League itself when they set up a seperate body
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Be careful ... as Con has shown and any lawyer will tell you rules are only as good as people willingness to agree with the decisions made by the ruling body.. when they do not courts decide ... past experience with NSL clubs and say Con is when they are not happy they will say let the court decide...

Me thinks it is a very difficult decision to make for FFA as those pricks that run the NSL and its prior bodies from 1955 held it back for almost  50 years ... not all were bad .... some nay many just caught up in a system... BUT IMO Berti Mariani was not an innocent angle caught up in a system he had no control of or knowledge of..
 

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