Mariners deny Singo's exit spells financial doom

[neverwozza]

I thought the business model was to develop players like this bloke.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Naughton

rumoured to a transfer target of roughly 6million by Everton. I'm not sure how often Sheffield sells an academy product but one of these transfers every few years would help things along quite nicely. I'm a patient man so give me the academy over a million dollar marquee every day of the week.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Any one think Singo .. not putting in more coin is because the CC Bears are said to be in the NRL from either 2012 or 2013..

I would say that there would be a fair bit of Singo's coin needed to get that over the line. I still don't see it ever happening, the NRL has for years procrastinated about a CC based team and one would have to wonder, if it was an area so important to their future as we have so often heard, why they have not initiated the process already.
 

I suspect the performance of Macquarie Radio is a bigger driver.

 

[promdi442]

The J League teams in pre-season could be a financial windfall also. I was at Parklea some years ago and a J-league team arrived for a practice session as part of their pre-season. They had two teams plus all the back room staffers with them. Just as the session started three tourist coaches arrived with their supporters there to WATCH them practice. Imagine the tourist dollars that could be injected by not only the J-League team but also the supporters into the complex. 

 

[clarence]

The J League teams in pre-season could be a financial windfall also. I was at Parklea some years ago and a J-league team arrived for a practice session as part of their pre-season. They had two teams plus all the back room staffers with them. Just as the session started three tourist coaches arrived with their supporters there to WATCH them practice. Imagine the tourist dollars that could be injected by not only the J-League team but also the supporters into the complex.  

LOL, can just imagine the scene if that happens at Tuggerah.

After watching the Football, the supporters can take their coaches along to Bunnings and the Rivers Factory Outlet store for some shopping, then maybe also head over to Westfields Tuggerah and go berserk in the food court!

 

[~Floss~]

The J League teams in pre-season could be a financial windfall also. I was at Parklea some years ago and a J-league team arrived for a practice session as part of their pre-season. They had two teams plus all the back room staffers with them. Just as the session started three tourist coaches arrived with their supporters there to WATCH them practice. Imagine the tourist dollars that could be injected by not only the J-League team but also the supporters into the complex.  

LOL, can just imagine the scene if that happens at Tuggerah.

After watching the Football, the supporters can take their coaches along to Bunnings and the Rivers Factory Outlet store for some shopping, then maybe also head over to Westfields Tuggerah and go berserk in the food court!

You mean "immerse themselves in the opportunity to to experience real local culture first hand"

LG could teach you a thing or two about how to put a spin on something

 

[Sean]

The J League teams in pre-season could be a financial windfall also. I was at Parklea some years ago and a J-league team arrived for a practice session as part of their pre-season. They had two teams plus all the back room staffers with them. Just as the session started three tourist coaches arrived with their supporters there to WATCH them practice. Imagine the tourist dollars that could be injected by not only the J-League team but also the supporters into the complex.  

Two years ago, (I think it was football NSW and/or the AFC?) they wanted a "Centre of Excellence" facility out in that exact area, for those exact reasons of hosting asian teams in their preseason warmups, training and games against A-league clubs and eventually a base for the WC should Aus host it. I wonder if it is still going ahead?

IF not, then our CoE will be the home for these clubs and that would be such a massive bonus for Coast football.

 

[dibo]

FNSW are building a complex at Riverstone.

 

[Bex]

The J League teams in pre-season could be a financial windfall also. I was at Parklea some years ago and a J-league team arrived for a practice session as part of their pre-season. They had two teams plus all the back room staffers with them. Just as the session started three tourist coaches arrived with their supporters there to WATCH them practice. Imagine the tourist dollars that could be injected by not only the J-League team but also the supporters into the complex.  

Two years ago, (I think it was football NSW and/or the AFC?) they wanted a "Centre of Excellence" facility out in that exact area, for those exact reasons of hosting asian teams in their preseason warmups, training and games against A-league clubs and eventually a base for the WC should Aus host it. I wonder if it is still going ahead?

IF not, then our CoE will be the home for these clubs and that would be such a massive bonus for Coast football.

I guess you're referring to Valentine Park which is near Parklea. My impressions were a decade ago that it was VERY much an old soccer centre. They've still got 5 pitches there but the area is heavily built out by what is now known as Bella Vista and Norwest Business Park.

 

[dibo]

Like I was saying:

FNSW are building a complex at Riverstone.

http://www.footballnsw.com.au/index.php?id=359

Project Summary

In what has been seen as a ground breaking development for football in Australia, Football NSW is proposing to build a new $40 million state of the art sporting complex in Riverstone West (located North-West of Sydney) which should all be completed by late 2011.

A number of modern facilities will be showcased at the proposed Riverstone West complex which includes:
A minimum of 9 purpose built quality football pitches, with the ability to expand to 15 fields in the future if necessary
A boutique stadium venue with a capacity of around 3,000 spectators, designed to showcase major Football NSW events
Indoor swimming pool
Multi-purpose indoor sporting centre consisting of two international sized Futsal courts.
Lecture Rooms
Physiotherapy and sports medicine centre
Gymnasium
Football NSW offices
Licensed club and function centre
Hotel accommodation
Private Football College

Aside from the commercial considerations aimed at securing the organisations financial future via ongoing revenue streams, Football NSW is creating a facility that is perfect to develop football, and its vast and abundant talent in NSW.

Riverstone West is a release precinct being developed as employment lands by the North West Transport hub (a joint venture between Paclib and Mastergroup).

 

[pjennings]

I think Peter Turnbull is invloved with this as well

 

[clarence]

I think Peter Turnbull is invloved with this as well

Bear in mind that the Northwest is basically his domain, and it is FNSW, the Association he was originally involved in prior to investing in Sydney FC. So yes, he may have some involvement with this.  But we will still be the A-League club to have this type of Academy and facilities on such a grand scale first. (Sydney may rent use of the facilities as might a future Sydney West team)

 

[Bex]

Like I was saying:

FNSW are building a complex at Riverstone.

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Fair enough, but Valentine Park is about 2km from Parklea whilst Riverstone is about 15km away. I have this strange tendency that when someone says something is close, I actually choose the thing that is close.

Anyway, I was well aware of the Riverstone development and yes Peter Turnbull is involved in that development as are the architects working on the Mariners CoE.

 

[Atomic]

The Riverstone development is being planned for the old meat works site in Riverstone. My father-in-law spent about 40 years being a drover there and the site was constantly being subjected to floods. A friend of mine who is a surveyor who works in the outer Western Suburbs, told me there are serious problems with the development due to flood waters. They need to raise the site, which is no problem, but the water has to go somewhere and that is the issue that can't be resolved.

 

[clarence]

The Riverstone development is being planned for the old meat works site in Riverstone. My father-in-law spent about 40 years being a drover there and the site was constantly being subjected to floods. A friend of mine who is a surveyor who works in the outer Western Suburbs, told me there are serious problems with the development due to flood waters. They need to raise the site, which is no problem, but the water has to go somewhere and that is the issue that can't be resolved.

I'm sure they'll end up working something out, but the work required to make it less flood prone is going to inflate the cost.

I'd say that if there's anecdotal evidence of it being flood prone, like your father-in-law's story suggests, the local Council would have it marked as such and won't let anything be built on that land until solutions are found. And I'm sure the FNSW people would have been aware of it or the architect would have established that, prior to going to Council with plans.

I don't think the Tuggerah site is necessarily on high ground either, come to think of it.

 

[dibo]

The Riverstone development is being planned for the old meat works site in Riverstone. My father-in-law spent about 40 years being a drover there and the site was constantly being subjected to floods. A friend of mine who is a surveyor who works in the outer Western Suburbs, told me there are serious problems with the development due to flood waters. They need to raise the site, which is no problem, but the water has to go somewhere and that is the issue that can't be resolved.

I'm sure they'll end up working something out, but the work required to make it less flood prone is going to inflate the cost.

I'd say that if there's anecdotal evidence of it being flood prone, like your father-in-law's story suggests, the local Council would have it marked as such and won't let anything be built on that land until solutions are found. And I'm sure the FNSW people would have been aware of it or the architect would have established that, prior to going to Council with plans.

I don't think the Tuggerah site is necessarily on high ground either, come to think of it.

It looks like a floodplain to an untrained eye. The fields will be on lower parts for sure, but if the drainage etc. is designed properly (and they've got a bloody big water storage facility in the design next to the tournament pitch) it should be ok.

 

[midfielder]

My understanding the second western Sydney bid that comes from the guy (can not spell his name) that now owns Gabbie Stadium at Seven Hills is that he has so relationship with NSW Football to use the Riverstone facility in a similar way to the COE and the Mariners..

It will not be quite the same but in developing juniors ... it will be..

 

[dibo]

c**ting c**t c**t joe meissner.

 

[dru]

The Riverstone development is being planned for the old meat works site in Riverstone. My father-in-law spent about 40 years being a drover there and the site was constantly being subjected to floods. A friend of mine who is a surveyor who works in the outer Western Suburbs, told me there are serious problems with the development due to flood waters. They need to raise the site, which is no problem, but the water has to go somewhere and that is the issue that can't be resolved.

Atomic is he talking about the whole development or just the commercially viable land? Also does anyone know what council area this development is in if they have flood prone land they will have a management plan or development guidelines as part of the LEP and I would be keen to see what is needed.

It really looks as if the boutique stadium will be the only structure affected by being in what would is classed as flood prone on the website dibo posted (if that can be believed). Fields are the perfect use for flood prone lands anyway, once every so often you get a fresh dump of free topsoil and maybe a few fences and goal posts go missing.

The main problems I see with it are getting solid foundations under the buildings on the 2.5hectares of commercial lands and the appropriate free board above the 1:100 year flood line.

 

[clarence]

c**ting c**t c**t joe meissner.

Some of us have long memories eh Dibo? ;D
[flash=200,200]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_wFEB4Oxlo[/flash]

 

[midfielder]

c**ting c**t c**t joe meissner.

Ya that's him ... is said to be the front runner at this stage BTW