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Luca Brasi

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"In the interest of assisting our coaches and staff, assisting the Mariners commercially and help to put them on the global map we've just made one of our biggest signings and that's Harry himself joining the Mariners on a part-time basis."
This is another embarrassing media release (like last years Everton partnership) with no substance that just undermines the credibility of the club rather than put us on the global map. Ok, so MC got on the piss with Arry one night and hit it off and he promised to pull some strings for us, great, but you dont have to put out a press release. Arry's expertise would not be the technical/tactical areas our coaching staff might benefit from, it is his profile and network of agent/player contacts in the UK. Unless we do something about Fab and Montys citizenship then we are not likely to sign any foreign players anyway. Although not a member of the ''TW out'' faction, I think this is a smoke screen for appearances sake, instead of the comprehensive and transparent review of the football department suggested by others on this forum.
 

Coastalraider

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This is another embarrassing media release (like last years Everton partnership) with no substance that just undermines the credibility of the club rather than put us on the global map. Ok, so MC got on the piss with Arry one night and hit it off and he promised to pull some strings for us, great, but you dont have to put out a press release. Arry's expertise would not be the technical/tactical areas our coaching staff might benefit from, it is his profile and network of agent/player contacts in the UK. Unless we do something about Fab and Montys citizenship then we are not likely to sign any foreign players anyway. Although not a member of the ''TW out'' faction, I think this is a smoke screen for appearances sake, instead of the comprehensive and transparent review of the football department suggested by others on this forum.

It gets worse though, just goes to show how seriously all parties are taking this arrangement.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/redknapp-talks-south-coast-mariners-role#:vFg8Buf8V_A1AQ
 

Rowdy

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Same article was posted yesterday.

...... but yeah, its just a 'flare ripped' by MC to smokescreen some of the pressure away from TW's perceived abillity or the lack thereof by some in the Coast Community - who may be tempted to jump ship next season
& with Ol'Harry's 'qual-it'ee' we've got TW's foibles covered.

The BIGGEST 'wank' in the club statement lies in this paragraph:

""In the interest of assisting our coaches and staff, assisting the Mariners commercially and help to put them on the global map we've just made one of our biggest signings and that's Harry himself joining the Mariners on a part-time basis."


Biggest signings ! ??? :confused: wtf ?

Players & Coaches are signed.

A Consultant like Harry, who will basically be a part-timer - enters into a mimimillistic commercial agreement to advise/consult & albeit one may argue is one and the same thing BUT surely is not deserving of the 'warm fuzzies' of being worded as a signing. Ohhh Puhhhh-lease.

"Harry came, he advised, he left! But did he really come at all ???"

Smoke 'flares' & mirrors. ;)

Copperfield would be proud.

 

Gratis

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Mixed messages about his attendance/role:

from the express advocate:
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Another source - from the horses mouth

"Mariners CEO Mike Charlesworth expressed his delight at Redknapp’s appointment, describing how Redknapp would visit “on at least two occasions during the season and hopefully more during the off season”.

The only fly in that ointment is that Redknapp doesn’t seem to have got the memo. On Talksport, not only did the new football consultant refer to the club as the ‘South Coast Mariners’ – it’s so hard to shift Sandbanks from your mind – but he also spoke about just how many times he would visit his employer.

“No, no, I won’t be going. It’s a long way. Thirty-odd hours on a plane. I came home the other week and it took me a week to recover. It’s a long way but it’s a fantastic country when you get there.”

Only Redknapp could get paid as a ‘football consultant’ for a club and not even be bothered to learn the name. Or go."
http://www.football365.com/news/mediawatch-harrys-working-from-home-today
 

adz

Moderator
Staff member
Sounds like everyone has their own idea on what the arrangement is, but forgot to do one thing... make an arrangement.
Amateur hour.
 

Forum Phoenix

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Harry ALWAYS puts his foot in his mouth. Wouldnt matter if it was written in huge bold letters and stapled to him - he'd still probably make a gaff - thats if he'd even read it.

Not saying i like it - but its no indication at all that the club has not been clear on their requirements or amatuer in their approach.

If you dont think Harry makes these kind of blunders all on his own, then you dont know Harry. But he knows football. And he knows people. Some hate him. But some love him. Should be able to help in both areas. Dont be fooled by the plain talk and inevitable gaffs. I think some people are massively under estimating him. Wealth of experience and a straight shooter with serious connections. We need all three.

Glass is half full imo. People should cut the club some slack. Clearly trying to think outside the box and push things forward - though i agree there is of course the element of TW distraction to it - but i think we'd be crazy to see that as being all it is also.
 
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FFC Mariner

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Fair point. His record of destruction at Portsmouth and QPR doesnt help him.

Personally, what it implies to me is how little MC trusts anyone here in OZ not to rip him off (on the football side). To be fair to the bloke he has good cause and wanting control is understandable.

Sadly, that is unsustanable - you cant run a business from across the world. either trust local management or sell it on
 

midfielder

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FFC

You make a reasonable point pertaining to MC and his choice of English pension age managers.

The key issue for me from his actions and public announcement it would appear he and or his English team will decide on future players. Yet our recent signings seemed to be both quick and by TW.

My feeling is MC does not trust TW and JH to put together a side and wants a say in most things.

The other conspiracy theory is TW is on trail and if he fails Arry will step in until we find a new coach...

On other issues with all the talk about both Fab and Austin wanting out I do wonder if TW has the support of the shed.
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
Rough to blame TW. Tom Smithies had that story ages ago about how we spend hundreds of thousands less than anyone else - if he wants TW to put a competitive side out, he has to at least provide a budget to compete.

FWIW, there's another reason players might want to leave. If you know your firm is the lowest paying by far, it's understandable you might cast around.
 

Rowdy

Well-Known Member
FWIW, there's another reason players might want to leave. If you know your firm is the lowest paying by far, it's understandable you might cast around.

And if your also thinking "I can't shine as a player amongst the quality of player's around me" ...... then also knowing that your firm is the lowest paying compounds it, by the likelihood of better quality players coming in becoming doubtful because of that lack of ca$h.

"I think I need to move on" may just be the thoughts of a two, er .. I mean few. :cool:
 
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JoyfulPenguin

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The proof will be in the pudding for Mariners with Redknapp

It remains to be seen exactly what value Harry Redknapp will be to Central Coast Mariners as a consultant, but if he does make a trip here at the start of the next A-League season, the players better be careful they don't send any stray kicks in the direction of the 69 year-old at training.
By
Greg Prichard

6 MAY 2016 - 2:12 PM UPDATED YESTERDAY 2:12 PM


Redknapp doesn't take kindly to being hit by loose balls, as this video shows (please note: LANGUAGE WARNING).

Central Coast announced last week that Redknapp, who has been out of full-time management for 12 months and is now picking up advisory roles, as well as a recent stint in charge of Jordan for two FIFA World Cup qualifying matches, would be coming on-board.

The deal, according to the Mariners, would include Redknapp spending some time at the club during the season, although Redknapp subsequently said in a radio interview in the United Kingdom: "No, no, I won't be going. It's a long way. Thirty-odd hours on a plane".

"I came home the other week and it took me a week to recover. It's a long way, but it's a fantastic country when you get there."

Redknapp also described the club as the "South Coast Mariners".
Central Coast owner Mike Charlesworth tried to straighten that ship, and said it had been agreed Redknapp would, indeed, visit Australia as long as he wasn't tied up coaching a national team at the time.

He said having Redknapp "on the ground in Australia will have a really positive effect on everybody from the coach to the players and all the way through the club to the office staff".

"He’s one of the biggest brands and characters in global football. If he says something, whether it's humorous or not, people write about him.

"That’s what we need and what the A-League needs. For us to have an ex-EPL manager working with us in this way, has created news and interest.

"When he comes over, I am expecting him to be very hands-on in everything he does. We want him to be involved on every level and every aspect of the business as much as possible in the days and weeks that he is involved with the club."

That will be the proof in the pudding, whether there is any genuine depth to Redknapp's involvement or whether it amounts to not much more than a publicity stunt.

As Charlesworth suggested, Redknapp attracts publicity. The manager has never been short of a good quote.

There are countless examples, but here are just a few.

Harking back to his playing days at West Ham United: "Even when they had (Bobby) Moore, (Alan) Hurst and (Martin) Peters, West Ham’s average finish was about 17th. It just shows how useless the other eight of us were."

And.

"I sorted out the team formation last night lying in bed with the wife. When your husband’s as ugly as me, you’d only want to talk football in bed."

And another.

"After shooting practice yesterday, I had to drive up the M27 and collect four balls."

During his last season in full-time management, with Queens Park Rangers, Redknapp said after a home loss to Liverpool why he had left Moroccan international Adel Taarabt out of the team.

"He's not injured, he's not fit. He's not fit to play football, unfortunately," Redknapp said.

"He played in a reserve game the other day and I could have run about more than he did.

"I pick people who want to try, who come in every day and work, train and show a good attitude. When he starts doing that, if he ever can, maybe he'll get a game. I can't protect people who don't want to run and train, and are about three stone overweight."

Redknapp was recently called in to coach Jordan in two World Cup qualifiers. While they thrashed hapless Bangladesh, 8-0, they were then belted themselves by Australia 5-1 and it appeared he could do little to help.

Perhaps, within such a short time-frame, Jordan may have been better off having someone much more familiar, with the players, in charge.

The A-League has come a long way. If someone like Redknapp was to come to Australia and spend a full season or at least half the season at a club like the Mariners, thoroughly examining their systems and being a genuine agent of positive change, it might be worthwhile.

But if it turns out to be a short-term visit in which his involvement doesn't run deep and merely scratches the surface, what would be the point?

Surely there are people either already involved with the club, or football in Australia and looking for an opportunity, who would be able to do a better job than that.
 

Wombat

Well-Known Member
The proof will be in the pudding for Mariners with Redknapp

It remains to be seen exactly what value Harry Redknapp will be to Central Coast Mariners as a consultant, but if he does make a trip here at the start of the next A-League season, the players better be careful they don't send any stray kicks in the direction of the 69 year-old at training.
By
Greg Prichard

6 MAY 2016 - 2:12 PM UPDATED YESTERDAY 2:12 PM


Redknapp doesn't take kindly to being hit by loose balls, as this video shows (please note: LANGUAGE WARNING).

Central Coast announced last week that Redknapp, who has been out of full-time management for 12 months and is now picking up advisory roles, as well as a recent stint in charge of Jordan for two FIFA World Cup qualifying matches, would be coming on-board.

The deal, according to the Mariners, would include Redknapp spending some time at the club during the season, although Redknapp subsequently said in a radio interview in the United Kingdom: "No, no, I won't be going. It's a long way. Thirty-odd hours on a plane".

"I came home the other week and it took me a week to recover. It's a long way, but it's a fantastic country when you get there."

Redknapp also described the club as the "South Coast Mariners".
Central Coast owner Mike Charlesworth tried to straighten that ship, and said it had been agreed Redknapp would, indeed, visit Australia as long as he wasn't tied up coaching a national team at the time.

He said having Redknapp "on the ground in Australia will have a really positive effect on everybody from the coach to the players and all the way through the club to the office staff".

"He’s one of the biggest brands and characters in global football. If he says something, whether it's humorous or not, people write about him.

"That’s what we need and what the A-League needs. For us to have an ex-EPL manager working with us in this way, has created news and interest.

"When he comes over, I am expecting him to be very hands-on in everything he does. We want him to be involved on every level and every aspect of the business as much as possible in the days and weeks that he is involved with the club."

That will be the proof in the pudding, whether there is any genuine depth to Redknapp's involvement or whether it amounts to not much more than a publicity stunt.

As Charlesworth suggested, Redknapp attracts publicity. The manager has never been short of a good quote.

There are countless examples, but here are just a few.

Harking back to his playing days at West Ham United: "Even when they had (Bobby) Moore, (Alan) Hurst and (Martin) Peters, West Ham’s average finish was about 17th. It just shows how useless the other eight of us were."

And.

"I sorted out the team formation last night lying in bed with the wife. When your husband’s as ugly as me, you’d only want to talk football in bed."

And another.

"After shooting practice yesterday, I had to drive up the M27 and collect four balls."

During his last season in full-time management, with Queens Park Rangers, Redknapp said after a home loss to Liverpool why he had left Moroccan international Adel Taarabt out of the team.

"He's not injured, he's not fit. He's not fit to play football, unfortunately," Redknapp said.

"He played in a reserve game the other day and I could have run about more than he did.

"I pick people who want to try, who come in every day and work, train and show a good attitude. When he starts doing that, if he ever can, maybe he'll get a game. I can't protect people who don't want to run and train, and are about three stone overweight."

Redknapp was recently called in to coach Jordan in two World Cup qualifiers. While they thrashed hapless Bangladesh, 8-0, they were then belted themselves by Australia 5-1 and it appeared he could do little to help.

Perhaps, within such a short time-frame, Jordan may have been better off having someone much more familiar, with the players, in charge.

The A-League has come a long way. If someone like Redknapp was to come to Australia and spend a full season or at least half the season at a club like the Mariners, thoroughly examining their systems and being a genuine agent of positive change, it might be worthwhile.

But if it turns out to be a short-term visit in which his involvement doesn't run deep and merely scratches the surface, what would be the point?

Surely there are people either already involved with the club, or football in Australia and looking for an opportunity, who would be able to do a better job than that.

Like who?
 

Wombat

Well-Known Member
The proof will be in the pudding for Mariners with Redknapp

It remains to be seen exactly what value Harry Redknapp will be to Central Coast Mariners as a consultant, but if he does make a trip here at the start of the next A-League season, the players better be careful they don't send any stray kicks in the direction of the 69 year-old at training.
By
Greg Prichard

6 MAY 2016 - 2:12 PM UPDATED YESTERDAY 2:12 PM


Redknapp doesn't take kindly to being hit by loose balls, as this video shows (please note: LANGUAGE WARNING).

Central Coast announced last week that Redknapp, who has been out of full-time management for 12 months and is now picking up advisory roles, as well as a recent stint in charge of Jordan for two FIFA World Cup qualifying matches, would be coming on-board.

The deal, according to the Mariners, would include Redknapp spending some time at the club during the season, although Redknapp subsequently said in a radio interview in the United Kingdom: "No, no, I won't be going. It's a long way. Thirty-odd hours on a plane".

"I came home the other week and it took me a week to recover. It's a long way, but it's a fantastic country when you get there."

Redknapp also described the club as the "South Coast Mariners".
Central Coast owner Mike Charlesworth tried to straighten that ship, and said it had been agreed Redknapp would, indeed, visit Australia as long as he wasn't tied up coaching a national team at the time.

He said having Redknapp "on the ground in Australia will have a really positive effect on everybody from the coach to the players and all the way through the club to the office staff".

"He’s one of the biggest brands and characters in global football. If he says something, whether it's humorous or not, people write about him.

"That’s what we need and what the A-League needs. For us to have an ex-EPL manager working with us in this way, has created news and interest.

"When he comes over, I am expecting him to be very hands-on in everything he does. We want him to be involved on every level and every aspect of the business as much as possible in the days and weeks that he is involved with the club."

That will be the proof in the pudding, whether there is any genuine depth to Redknapp's involvement or whether it amounts to not much more than a publicity stunt.

As Charlesworth suggested, Redknapp attracts publicity. The manager has never been short of a good quote.

There are countless examples, but here are just a few.

Harking back to his playing days at West Ham United: "Even when they had (Bobby) Moore, (Alan) Hurst and (Martin) Peters, West Ham’s average finish was about 17th. It just shows how useless the other eight of us were."

And.

"I sorted out the team formation last night lying in bed with the wife. When your husband’s as ugly as me, you’d only want to talk football in bed."

And another.

"After shooting practice yesterday, I had to drive up the M27 and collect four balls."

During his last season in full-time management, with Queens Park Rangers, Redknapp said after a home loss to Liverpool why he had left Moroccan international Adel Taarabt out of the team.

"He's not injured, he's not fit. He's not fit to play football, unfortunately," Redknapp said.

"He played in a reserve game the other day and I could have run about more than he did.

"I pick people who want to try, who come in every day and work, train and show a good attitude. When he starts doing that, if he ever can, maybe he'll get a game. I can't protect people who don't want to run and train, and are about three stone overweight."

Redknapp was recently called in to coach Jordan in two World Cup qualifiers. While they thrashed hapless Bangladesh, 8-0, they were then belted themselves by Australia 5-1 and it appeared he could do little to help.

Perhaps, within such a short time-frame, Jordan may have been better off having someone much more familiar, with the players, in charge.

The A-League has come a long way. If someone like Redknapp was to come to Australia and spend a full season or at least half the season at a club like the Mariners, thoroughly examining their systems and being a genuine agent of positive change, it might be worthwhile.

But if it turns out to be a short-term visit in which his involvement doesn't run deep and merely scratches the surface, what would be the point?

Surely there are people either already involved with the club, or football in Australia and looking for an opportunity, who would be able to do a better job than that.


LOL.
No wonder he's in the f**king reserves!
 

Forum Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Pathetic article.

Look, harry might do jack all for us, but no ones knows what his impact will be yet. But there's simply no good reason to be overly pessimistic about hiring an experienced international and EPL manager as a consultant.

To assume it will be of no worth after just admitting you don't even know what he's going to do - is dumber than anything even Harry has said. And taking issue with your own hypothetical outcomes is even dumber.

"The A-League has come a long way. If someone like Redknapp was to come to Australia and spend a full season or at least half the season at a club like the Mariners, thoroughly examining their systems and being a genuine agent of positive change, it might be worthwhile."

Because what, it's impossible to be of any use as a consultant unless he's here examining our systems for a season? FFS, he hasn't been hired as a new head of football operations or as a technical director Greg. He's just a consultant. But as a consultant he has a much better CV and connections than most candidates in Oz no? But hey no consultant could possibly offer anything worthwhile to the spooning Mariners right. o_O

This is my favourite...

"But if it turns out to be a short-term visit in which his involvement doesn't run deep and merely scratches the surface, what would be the point?

Surely there are people either already involved with the club, or football in Australia and looking for an opportunity, who would be able to do a better job than that."


Yeah! Right on Greg! If he's only going to scratch the surface (ie; do f**k all) then surely we could find someone from Australia to do better than (f**k all)!

"THEY TOOK OUR JERBSSS!!!"

Owner has just said he'd like his role to be across multiple areas and significant, but thanks for the heads up that it would be a waste of time to pay someone to do f**k all for us Greg. Brilliant analysis. Not a hatchet job at all.
 
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