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January Xfer Window! Let the Games Begin.
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Rowdy
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Mariners hint at Sydney player swap for Caceres:
Central Coast Mariners coach Tony Walmsley says Sydney FC may have to hand over some of their own players if they want to see Anthony Caceres playing for the Sky Blues anytime soon.
As reported by FourFourTwo this week, Caceres has been linked with a move to the Sky Blues but still has another year to run on his contract.
The 23-year-old was dropped for the Mariners 3-1 New Year’s Eve win over Wellington Phoenix and Walmsley has given no guarantees when he’ll return to the line-up.
But he said the playmaker remained one of the club’s “prized assets”and suggested he would only exit for a beneficial player swap or "money on the table".
Earlier Walmsley conceded there were no transfer fees between A-League clubs.
“We value Caceres very highly,” he said. “He’s one of our prized assets.
“Any move to another A-League club would be dependent on players coming the other way who are desirable to us and would add to the strength of our team.
“Sydney FC going into an ACL (AFC Champions League) are going to be looking for more players not looking to offload players.
“I’ve heard there’s interest (in Caceres) but the club’s not doing anything unless there’s either money on the table or something that is really too compelling to let one of our best young players go in the middle of his contract.”
There has already been a player swap in the transfer window.
The Advertiser reports that the Reds Osama Malik is heading to Melbourne City while David Williams is headed the other way.
Meanwhile Caceres and Nick Fitzgerald were both absent from the line-up as the last-placed Mariners picked up just their second win of the season on Thursday night.
Walmsley said of his selection: “They got left out for the boys that did the shift tonight. Like every player they have to come back and fight for their spots.
“They’ll be training Saturday and we’ll see how they show up for the Melbourne Victory game next week. Places are always up for grabs but those boys that played tonight have done themselves a tremendous amount of good.
“They’ll be going into a Victory game, that’s always difficult but a team that’s also been struggling of late, with their tails up which if fantastic.”
He added: “You wouldn’t want to be making significant changes (to the line-up) at all based on what we put out there tonight.
“Every team we play is above us at the moment. It’s going to be that way for a few weeks until we can clawback within striking distance and then we’ll take it from there.
“But I’m very proud of Central Coast Mariners tonight and being Head Coach of that performance – they were fantastic.”
Asked about Sydney coach Graham Arnold’s comment that the phones are “working hot” leading into the January transfer window, Walmsley was quick to point out the financial disparity between the two clubs.
“If he wants to give us some players, we’d be really interested in looking at what they’ve got," he said of the former Mariners coach. "We just can’t afford to pay for any of them.”
Central Coast Mariners coach Tony Walmsley says Sydney FC may have to hand over some of their own players if they want to see Anthony Caceres playing for the Sky Blues anytime soon.
As reported by FourFourTwo this week, Caceres has been linked with a move to the Sky Blues but still has another year to run on his contract.
The 23-year-old was dropped for the Mariners 3-1 New Year’s Eve win over Wellington Phoenix and Walmsley has given no guarantees when he’ll return to the line-up.
But he said the playmaker remained one of the club’s “prized assets”and suggested he would only exit for a beneficial player swap or "money on the table".
Earlier Walmsley conceded there were no transfer fees between A-League clubs.
“We value Caceres very highly,” he said. “He’s one of our prized assets.
“Any move to another A-League club would be dependent on players coming the other way who are desirable to us and would add to the strength of our team.
“Sydney FC going into an ACL (AFC Champions League) are going to be looking for more players not looking to offload players.
“I’ve heard there’s interest (in Caceres) but the club’s not doing anything unless there’s either money on the table or something that is really too compelling to let one of our best young players go in the middle of his contract.”
There has already been a player swap in the transfer window.
The Advertiser reports that the Reds Osama Malik is heading to Melbourne City while David Williams is headed the other way.
Meanwhile Caceres and Nick Fitzgerald were both absent from the line-up as the last-placed Mariners picked up just their second win of the season on Thursday night.
Walmsley said of his selection: “They got left out for the boys that did the shift tonight. Like every player they have to come back and fight for their spots.
“They’ll be training Saturday and we’ll see how they show up for the Melbourne Victory game next week. Places are always up for grabs but those boys that played tonight have done themselves a tremendous amount of good.
“They’ll be going into a Victory game, that’s always difficult but a team that’s also been struggling of late, with their tails up which if fantastic.”
He added: “You wouldn’t want to be making significant changes (to the line-up) at all based on what we put out there tonight.
“Every team we play is above us at the moment. It’s going to be that way for a few weeks until we can clawback within striking distance and then we’ll take it from there.
“But I’m very proud of Central Coast Mariners tonight and being Head Coach of that performance – they were fantastic.”
Asked about Sydney coach Graham Arnold’s comment that the phones are “working hot” leading into the January transfer window, Walmsley was quick to point out the financial disparity between the two clubs.
“If he wants to give us some players, we’d be really interested in looking at what they’ve got," he said of the former Mariners coach. "We just can’t afford to pay for any of them.”
Rowdy
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Tony Walmsley said:
Hmmmmm. ???
Perhaps we need to revisit the Everton scenario.
A loan of a player, registered by CCM as a 'Marquee' (hardly) BUT wages paid by Everton as gratitude for providing them an opportunity for one of 'their's' to play.
Pat Jennings, any news on Everton looking to bring in players during the window, dropping others - allowing us to have someone ???
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pjennings
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I gather that the Everton keeper has fallen through because I saw Bray celebrating with the keepers after the game.
I haven't heard a thing from Everton - only that we are likely to sign Francesco Stella ex Victory NYL player and the rumours about Samaras and Olic. Interesting that NY Cosmos have dropped their pursuit of Samaras because 'a chronic back issue continues to be a concern'.
Olic on the other hand last played on 19/12/15. He is not getting much game time and is keen to go somewhere to get plenty of game time before his last major tournament at Euro 2016. Apparently his wage demands are much more reasonable as well.
I haven't heard a thing from Everton - only that we are likely to sign Francesco Stella ex Victory NYL player and the rumours about Samaras and Olic. Interesting that NY Cosmos have dropped their pursuit of Samaras because 'a chronic back issue continues to be a concern'.
Olic on the other hand last played on 19/12/15. He is not getting much game time and is keen to go somewhere to get plenty of game time before his last major tournament at Euro 2016. Apparently his wage demands are much more reasonable as well.
true believer
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told mrs tb about olic talk . mrs tb said "only if he fits in"
pjennings
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http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jun/22/croatia-ivica-olic-world-cup
Good story on him from the last World Cup
Ivica Olic – the anti-Cristiano Ronaldo of this wonderful World Cup
In modern football, amid all the money and greed, there is something wonderfully appealing about the 34-year-old’s old-fashioned attitude and style of play
Ivica Olic, right, knocks Croatia's opening goal past Cameroon's goalkeeper Charles Itandje. Photograph: Themba Hadebe/AP
Marcus Christenson
Sunday 22 June 2014 19.47 AEST Last modified on Monday 23 June 2014 00.51 AEST
In many ways, it was Ivica Olic who set the tone for this wonderfully rumbustious World Cup. Sure, Oscar was doing his fancy stuff at the other end of the pitch, as was Neymar, but it was the 34-year-old Croat and his galloping runs down the left who made the biggest impression at the start of the opening game just over a week ago.
There was no messing around, just straightforward, glorious wing play. It was as if he had been flung in from a different era – an era before Arsène Wenger decided that all attacking players (bar one perhaps) should be short, nimble-footed midfielders who pass the ball around beautifully – and parachuted in behind the space left behind by the Brazil right-back Dani Alves.
Olic tormented Brazil in the opening 20 minutes and provided the cross from which Nikica Jelavic’s scuffed shot was turned into his own net by Marcelo. In their second game, against Cameroon, Olic scored his team’s first goal, coming in on the far post to sidefoot home Ivan Perisic’s beautifully weighted pass after 11 minutes. It was his second goal in seven World Cup matches, coming 12 years after making his debut and scoring at the tournament as a sprightly 22-year-old against Italy in Ibaraki. That’s 4,393 days – and a lot of hard work – between those two goals.
It is a testament to Olic’s professionalism and dedication that he, at the age of 34, is proving to be as mesmerising and menacing as he was then. In some ways he seems almost better. Olic is as straightforward as you like. He turns up and plays his game. He does not have a huge entourage around him and he does not feature in adverts for expensive cars which only 1% of the world’s population can afford.
He does not even appear to fancy himself in the same way that so many other modern footballers do, not least Cristiano Ronaldo. Now Ronaldo is, of course, a brilliant footballer – better than Olic no doubt – but there is something wonderfully appealing about Olic. You would never catch him rearranging his hair during a match, for example.
Let’s not forget, however, that Olic has had a distinguished club career as well. Born in the tiny town of Davor in eastern Croatia, he played for Marsonia, Hertha Berlin, NK Zagreb, Dinamo Zagreb and CSKA Moscow before he made it big with Hamburg in the Bundesliga.
He scored 29 goals in 78 Bundesliga games in a team who were, on occasions, fighting against relegation. That in turn earned him a move to Bayern Munich where he continued to score (although less frequently as he was often on the bench) and came agonisingly close to winning the Champions League against Chelsea in the final. Bayern were 1-0 up after 88 minutes before Didier Drogba equalised and Arjen Robben missed a penalty in extra time. In the penalty shootout Olic was one of two Bayern players to miss (Bastian Schweinsteiger was the other) and the Croat was allowed to leave on a free that summer.
He choose to join Wolfsburg, which seemed apt as, with an old Volkswagen, he could be relied on to keep going. Olic has done more than that – he has scored 23 goals in 64 league games for the club and recently signed a contract extension until 2016.
There is still unfinished business with Croatia and Niko Kovac’s team need a win against Mexico on Monday to be guaranteed a place in the last 16 (although a draw will be enough in the unlikely event of Brazil losing to Cameroon).
Olic is a guaranteed starter and while he has not always been appreciated back home (at one point in his career he was running so fast that he struggled to control the ball, leading to jokes such as: “What does a defender do when he sees Olic doing stepovers? He politely waits until Olic finishes, then takes the ball.”) but there is nothing but admiration now.
At this World Cup there has already been one moment which perfectly encapsulated what kind of wonderfully understated person Olic is. Having been substituted after 69 minutes against Cameroon he was later interviewed by German TV and they talked about the game and his goal before he mentioned, merely in passing, that he had cut a foot on the shower door that morning and had done all that running with a stitched right foot.
“It’s starting to hurt a bit more now, having come off,” he said. “I’ll take it a bit easier for two or three days … then we go again.”
If only there were more players like Ivica Olic in modern football.
Good story on him from the last World Cup
Ivica Olic – the anti-Cristiano Ronaldo of this wonderful World Cup
In modern football, amid all the money and greed, there is something wonderfully appealing about the 34-year-old’s old-fashioned attitude and style of play
Ivica Olic, right, knocks Croatia's opening goal past Cameroon's goalkeeper Charles Itandje. Photograph: Themba Hadebe/AP
Marcus Christenson
Sunday 22 June 2014 19.47 AEST Last modified on Monday 23 June 2014 00.51 AEST
In many ways, it was Ivica Olic who set the tone for this wonderfully rumbustious World Cup. Sure, Oscar was doing his fancy stuff at the other end of the pitch, as was Neymar, but it was the 34-year-old Croat and his galloping runs down the left who made the biggest impression at the start of the opening game just over a week ago.
There was no messing around, just straightforward, glorious wing play. It was as if he had been flung in from a different era – an era before Arsène Wenger decided that all attacking players (bar one perhaps) should be short, nimble-footed midfielders who pass the ball around beautifully – and parachuted in behind the space left behind by the Brazil right-back Dani Alves.
Olic tormented Brazil in the opening 20 minutes and provided the cross from which Nikica Jelavic’s scuffed shot was turned into his own net by Marcelo. In their second game, against Cameroon, Olic scored his team’s first goal, coming in on the far post to sidefoot home Ivan Perisic’s beautifully weighted pass after 11 minutes. It was his second goal in seven World Cup matches, coming 12 years after making his debut and scoring at the tournament as a sprightly 22-year-old against Italy in Ibaraki. That’s 4,393 days – and a lot of hard work – between those two goals.
It is a testament to Olic’s professionalism and dedication that he, at the age of 34, is proving to be as mesmerising and menacing as he was then. In some ways he seems almost better. Olic is as straightforward as you like. He turns up and plays his game. He does not have a huge entourage around him and he does not feature in adverts for expensive cars which only 1% of the world’s population can afford.
He does not even appear to fancy himself in the same way that so many other modern footballers do, not least Cristiano Ronaldo. Now Ronaldo is, of course, a brilliant footballer – better than Olic no doubt – but there is something wonderfully appealing about Olic. You would never catch him rearranging his hair during a match, for example.
Let’s not forget, however, that Olic has had a distinguished club career as well. Born in the tiny town of Davor in eastern Croatia, he played for Marsonia, Hertha Berlin, NK Zagreb, Dinamo Zagreb and CSKA Moscow before he made it big with Hamburg in the Bundesliga.
He scored 29 goals in 78 Bundesliga games in a team who were, on occasions, fighting against relegation. That in turn earned him a move to Bayern Munich where he continued to score (although less frequently as he was often on the bench) and came agonisingly close to winning the Champions League against Chelsea in the final. Bayern were 1-0 up after 88 minutes before Didier Drogba equalised and Arjen Robben missed a penalty in extra time. In the penalty shootout Olic was one of two Bayern players to miss (Bastian Schweinsteiger was the other) and the Croat was allowed to leave on a free that summer.
He choose to join Wolfsburg, which seemed apt as, with an old Volkswagen, he could be relied on to keep going. Olic has done more than that – he has scored 23 goals in 64 league games for the club and recently signed a contract extension until 2016.
There is still unfinished business with Croatia and Niko Kovac’s team need a win against Mexico on Monday to be guaranteed a place in the last 16 (although a draw will be enough in the unlikely event of Brazil losing to Cameroon).
Olic is a guaranteed starter and while he has not always been appreciated back home (at one point in his career he was running so fast that he struggled to control the ball, leading to jokes such as: “What does a defender do when he sees Olic doing stepovers? He politely waits until Olic finishes, then takes the ball.”) but there is nothing but admiration now.
At this World Cup there has already been one moment which perfectly encapsulated what kind of wonderfully understated person Olic is. Having been substituted after 69 minutes against Cameroon he was later interviewed by German TV and they talked about the game and his goal before he mentioned, merely in passing, that he had cut a foot on the shower door that morning and had done all that running with a stitched right foot.
“It’s starting to hurt a bit more now, having come off,” he said. “I’ll take it a bit easier for two or three days … then we go again.”
If only there were more players like Ivica Olic in modern football.
Rowdy
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Saw a 'new face' doing warm down with Pearce directed by Nash post match, was this Bray ???
Rowdy
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pjennings
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Yes - seemed to be a bigger unit than I imagined.
Rowdy
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sydmariner
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Matt Simon did & apparently he didn't.Anyone who scores goals will fit in.
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VicMariner
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Yes, I'm curious.
I have heard some clubs use FM as a real life scouting tool.
VicMariner
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Wow! Some good goals there.
Trouble is Fab already plays on the right. Can either one play left so we are dangerous on both sides?
Forum Phoenix
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He plays striker aswell.
Forum Phoenix
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Olic I mean.
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