"I for one welcome our insect overlords" - The Politics Thread

[true believer]

LOL what a stretch. The source I linked is merely hosting the documents, they didn't author them. These documents were provided to the Inspector General in America. Once again, you prove that you are completely biased. There's no source that would ever be acceptable to you. You're just too far gone.

sure ,whats next , pedo pizza revisited ?

 

[Spacks]

sure ,whats next , pedo pizza revisited ?

no no stay on the topic we were talking about, you wont be worming your way out of this one

 

[true believer]

no no stay on the topic we were talking about, you wont be worming your way out of this one

You were caught lying,,,,again .
Patten behaviour indeed . Also the haulmark of
Ultra right ideologues

 

[Spacks]

You were caught lying,,,,again .
Patten behaviour indeed . Also the haulmark of
Ultra right ideologues

You can't just claim I'm lying cos you lost the debate, that's not how it works. Does anyone know how old TB, is he like 12?

 

[FFC Mariner]

Serious question...

Do you fellas actually enjoy this thread, and the interactions?

No even close. @adz are we able to block/ignore entire threads.
Been hijacked by people brainwashed by Facebook and Fox

 

[Spacks]

No even close. @adz are we able to block/ignore entire threads.
Been hijacked by people brainwashed by Facebook and Fox

Yes, delete the thread and ban politics entirely. I don't particulary enjoy being called a liar on a public forum for providing sources, just because those sources don't come from an approved leftwing hivemind media company.

 

[true believer]

You can't just claim I'm lying cos you lost the debate, that's not how it works. Does anyone know how old TB, is he like 12?

Ooh and declaring you're the winner .
Text book

 

[Spacks]

Ooh and declaring you're the winner .
Text book

Make a coherent argument for once rather than resorting to calling me a liar all the time or a 'text book sociopath'.

 

[Ozhammer]

Make a coherent argument for once rather than resorting to calling me a liar all the time or a 'text book sociopath'.

Next they’ll be calling you a racist/mysoginist/white supremacist or some other left wing hyperbole.

We don’t all see the world the same or hold the same opinions and it’s ok to hold differing viewpoints but it’s just so disappointing how quickly debate seems to just degenerate into slander and name calling these days isn’t it?

The current cynicism just makes it impossible to genuinely debate anything these days, which is really sad.

 

[Hello Sailor]

I enjoy the thread and you can always block content from the whackos

 

[pjennings]

I like genuine political debate but that is not what is happening here.

 

[Spacks]

Next they’ll be calling you a racist/mysoginist/white supremacist or some other left wing hyperbole.

We don’t all see the world the same or hold the same opinions and it’s ok to hold differing viewpoints but it’s just so disappointing how quickly debate seems to just degenerate into slander and name calling these days isn’t it?

The current cynicism just makes it impossible to genuinely debate anything these days, which is really sad.

Wouldn't be so bad if tb was capable of a making his argument in good faith, but he just can't do it.

oh and he already has alluded that I'm a nazi and and outright claimed I'm an incel and that I should look up "Ernst Rohm", a nazi who was executed.

Dude's the most unhinged lunatic on this forum.

 

[Wombat]

Serious question...

Do you fellas actually enjoy this thread, and the interactions?

I actually hate it. But I can't turn a blind eye and let very questionable views go unchallenged. This is the result on unchallenged wokeism/sickness.


Check out the new Jag advert for reference.

 

[Wombat]

I like genuine political debate but that is not what is happening here.

I 100% respect you PJ. I don't agree with you politically but i respect your opinions. Others are certifiable.

 

[Ironbark]

I actually hate it. But I can't turn a blind eye and let very questionable views go unchallenged. This is the result on unchallenged wokeism/sickness.

Check out the new Jag advert for reference.

It's an extremely low percentage of those on the left who actually are far, nut-job-level, left. I'd describe myself as left of centre but also am disgusted by those extreme, borderline insane views.
Just like it's a low percentage of those on the right who are far right neo-Nazi / fascists, who I'm equally disgusted by.

Assuming anyone with left or right views is at the the extreme end is frankly juvenile.
In reality, like many people, I have views on both sides. I believe in self responsibility and the ability to create your own future. I also believe we should share the costs and responsibilities on some things, like healthcare and education.

Also, wokism isn't what those trying to demonise the left claim. They say woke and mean extreme left - but that's naive and is not at all what it means.
"Woke is now defined as “aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice),” and identified as U.S. slang. It originated in African American English and gained more widespread use beginning in 2014 as part of the Black Lives Matter movement. By the end of that same decade it was also being applied by some as a general pejorative for anyone who is or appears to be politically left-leaning. "

 

[Hello Sailor]

I agree with everything you say except for the wokism bit. I think that is refers to social activism and this is confronting for those of us who are socially conservative and feel the need to push back.


It predates the appearance of the term 'woke' but here is an example of 'woke' by people walking on eggshells either trying too hard to not offend, or worse finding offence where none exists.

A few decades ago historians decided to change the term AD [anno domini-latin for the "year of our lord"] because of a [non existent] concern that it's christian reference may be offending non-christians. So instead CE [for Common Era] was substituted with basically the same baseline.
They clearly didn't notice that for hundreds of years [in which time the western world was much more devout] we have been using days of the week named after pagan gods and months of the year named after ancient Roman gods. I am an atheist but before the scales fell from my eyes I was never offended by these names. Is anybody???
To change them now would be just as stupid as changing zero degrees from Greenwich [which may have colonial overtones -shock horror] and countries/cultures having maps and time-zones using their own points of reference. An just as stupid as changing AD to CE

Rant over

 

[Wombat]

I agree with everything you say except for the wokism bit. I think that is refers to social activism and this is confronting for those of us who are socially conservative and feel the need to push back.


It predates the appearance of the term 'woke' but here is an example of 'woke' by people walking on eggshells either trying too hard to not offend, or worse finding offence where none exists.

A few decades ago historians decided to change the term AD [anno domini-latin for the "year of our lord"] because of a [non existent] concern that it's christian reference may be offending non-christians. So instead CE [for Common Era] was substituted with basically the same baseline.
They clearly didn't notice that for hundreds of years [in which time the western world was much more devout] we have been using days of the week named after pagan gods and months of the year named after ancient Roman gods. I am an atheist but before the scales fell from my eyes I was never offended by these names. Is anybody???
To change them now would be just as stupid as changing zero degrees from Greenwich [which may have colonial overtones -shock horror] and countries/cultures having maps and time-zones using their own points of reference. The Khmer Rouge tried it but year zero coinciding with the start of their revolution didn't catch on.

Rant over

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This shit is not normal. What were your thoughts on the opening ceremony of the Paris Olympic games?

I have voted Lib, Labor, Independent (the wonderful Ted Mack) and Dems (back before a woke/green moron destroyed that party). I'm not stuck in any ideology i just want normal people in charge. For example, I'm not a fan of Albo, but apart from his misguided YES campaign, he has remained reasonably objective and has not been the terrible PM i was expecting.

 

[Wombat]

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Loving this enlightenment. Would have been weaker without the crop top that signified global warming in Palestine.

 

[marinermick]

It's an extremely low percentage of those on the left who actually are far, nut-job-level, left. I'd describe myself as left of centre but also am disgusted by those extreme, borderline insane views.
Just like it's a low percentage of those on the right who are far right neo-Nazi / fascists, who I'm equally disgusted by.

Assuming anyone with left or right views is at the the extreme end is frankly juvenile.
In reality, like many people, I have views on both sides. I believe in self responsibility and the ability to create your own future. I also believe we should share the costs and responsibilities on some things, like healthcare and education.

Also, wokism isn't what those trying to demonise the left claim. They say woke and mean extreme left - but that's naive and is not at all what it means.
"Woke is now defined as “aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice),” and identified as U.S. slang. It originated in African American English and gained more widespread use beginning in 2014 as part of the Black Lives Matter movement. By the end of that same decade it was also being applied by some as a general pejorative for anyone who is or appears to be politically left-leaning. "

Thanks for the reminder on what woke is. Too many people throw about the term with a clear lack of understanding on what it means. They just use it as a derogatory for anything left of their right ideals, which is just absurd.

 

[booney]

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This shit is not normal. What were your thoughts on the opening ceremony of the Paris Olympic games?

I have voted Lib, Labor, Independent (the wonderful Ted Mack) and Dems (back before a woke/green moron destroyed that party). I'm not stuck in any ideology i just want normal people in charge. For example, I'm not a fan of Albo, but apart from his misguided YES campaign, he has remained reasonably objective and has not been the terrible PM i was expecting.

That's very condescending of you towards Albo.Did you expect him to be a reincarnation of Stalin or Castro?