"I for one welcome our insect overlords" - The Politics Thread

[Ironbark]

Don't be fooled, nuclear is functionally impractical in the Australian context and a political delaying tactic only. It has its place overseas in some countries (not all), but only in those with existing infrastructure and few alternatives.

It can't be unrolled economically at the scale or in the timeframes required here. To argue it can be is naive.
Truthfully, those in politics arguing for it have straight up zero intention of pursuing it - it's to buy time for their lobbyists to make their money.

I'm in the industry. Internally this is all well known. It's kind of mind boggling that this debate even has legs in the public domain as everyone actually involved laughs at it all as nonsense

 

[FFC Mariner]

Don't be fooled, nuclear is functionally impractical in the Australian context and a political delaying tactic only. It has its place overseas in some countries (not all), but only in those with existing infrastructure and fee alternatives.

It can't be unrolled economically at the scale or in the timeframes required here. To argue it can be is naive.
Truthfully, those in politics arguing for it have straight up zero intention of pursuing it - it's to buy time for their lobbyists to make their money.

I'm in the industry. Internally this is all well known. It's kind of mind boggling that this debate even has legs in the public domain as everyone actually involved laughs at it all as nonsense

Oh no. You'll set him off again.
AlL tHoSe CAPS

 

[Spacks]

Don't be fooled, nuclear is functionally impractical in the Australian context and a political delaying tactic only. It has its place overseas in some countries (not all), but only in those with existing infrastructure and fee alternatives.

It can't be unrolled economically at the scale or in the timeframes required here. To argue it can be is naive.
Truthfully, those in politics arguing for it have straight up zero intention of pursuing it - it's to buy time for their lobbyists to make their money.

I'm in the industry. Internally this is all well known. It's kind of mind boggling that this debate even has legs in the public domain as everyone actually involved laughs at it all as nonsense

Why is it naive, what are the pitfalls into investing in nuclear seeing as how we have oodles of Uranium?

 

[true believer]

what do you mean selective? I was laughing at the fact you never addressed the claim you made about Jill Stein receiving hundreds of thousands into her cayman bank account. You made that claim! Back it up with evidence!


No sense debating things with you if you aren't going to do it in good faith.

so she caught on film with putin has a number of 6 figure somes given to her .
but thats not in good faith .let me know when you can explain the the footage and the cash amounts

For context, he said I needed to provide facts:


I countered with


Not sure how you could come to the conclusion I've edited my posts selectively.

prove an apple is an apple .conservative lowest common denominator agreement

when you leave out half a post .thats selective

 

[true believer]

You got a source on that timeframe and costing?

All commercial nuclear reactors use nuclear fission. As of July 2024, there are 415 operable power reactors in the world, with a combined electrical capacity of 373.7 GW

List of commercial nuclear reactors - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

List of nuclear power stations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

ooh ffs . and where is your flux capacitor ?

who long do you think it would take to build the reactors ?
are you planning to use uyghur slave labour ?
are you planning to use australian safety standards ,building codes ?
where are you planning to processing up to a million fuel rods ? (the chinese have lots and lots of cracked ones ).

but an apple isn't an apple right . magical mystical indeed

 

[true believer]

Hinkley Point C is one nuclear reactor out of hundreds, plenty of success stories in the wiki links I provided (I seem to be the one providing sources for all my arguments).
Our first students of the Nuclear Propulsion training center in America have graduated, so we're getting that experience!

haven't we got nuclear experience ? you know lukas heights has been open for over 60 years ?

so what experience will they get changing rods .maybe more than 30,000 could be 100's of thousands of the things on a say 3GW power station reactor ?

now as im trying to keep up .you do know the reactors last for the life of the boat ?
so stop/start water in water out ?

I'm engaging in debate about the NUCLEAR industry, try and keep up!

blah ha ha ha ha ha ha buffoon

It's entirely possible they're building bunkers to survive the next 'Younger Dryas' event, not the rising carbon dioxide. You should look that one up to put the fear up yah clacker.

ooh an apple isn't and apple again . but you don't know who watts is .thats bullshit 101 right there .
you know there is a post out about the atlantic conveyer .should help you out with the younger dryas .
i bet you got solar cycle next right

https://en.vedur.is/media/ads_in_header/AMOC-letter_Final.pdf

Maybe even the fact that if the Northern Hemisphere gets into a nuclear weapon exchange, the radioactive fallout crossing the equator could be marginal

idiot

Sagan and Turco predict a grim scenario for even a "marginal" nuclear winter. They calculate that a few nuclear detonations above urban centers in a contained nuclear war could lower temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere by a few degrees. Agricultural production would suffer, resulting in famine — especially if accompanied by severe drought. While a great deal of the ash would return to Earth in black rains, much would remain in the upper atmosphere. Sagan and Turco predict that the deaths from such a nuclear winter would equal those killed in the nuclear war. Everything below the equator would remain mostly unaffected, given the hemispheric separation of air currents and the fact that most nuclear targets exist in the Northern Hemisphere.

and

Source #1: https://www.contactairlandandsea.co...ilors-graduate-from-usn-nuclear-power-school/

Source #2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas

Source #3: https://science.howstuffworks.com/nuclear-winter.htm#:~:text=Everything below the equator would,exist in the Northern Hemisphere.

holy dead dinosaurs batman

 

[Spacks]

so she caught on film with putin has a number of 6 figure somes given to her .
but thats not in good faith .let me know when you can explain the the footage and the cash amounts

prove an apple is an apple .conservative lowest common denominator agreement

when you leave out half a post .thats selective

I was asking for evidence of her cayman bank accounts, that was the claim you made.

prove an apple is an apple .conservative lowest common denominator agreement

when you leave out half a post .thats selective

What are you waffling on about? What did I leave out and was it even relevant lol, you waffle on about a load of shit most of the time, sorry if I left out your ramblings.

ooh ffs . and where is your flux capacitor ?

who long do you think it would take to build the reactors ?
are you planning to use uyghur slave labour ?
are you planning to use australian safety standards ,building codes ?
where are you planning to processing up to a million fuel rods ? (the chinese have lots and lots of cracked ones ).

but an apple isn't an apple right . magical mystical indeed

a) in Doc Brown's DeLorean?
b) depends I guess on the contractor
c) cmon man
d) not sure they'd be good enough tbh
e) dig a hole under ayre's xD

haven't we got nuclear experience ? you know lukas heights has been open for over 60 years ?

so what experience will they get changing rods .maybe more than 30,000 could be 100's of thousands of the things on a say 3GW power station reactor ?

now as im trying to keep up .you do know the reactors last for the life of the boat ?
so stop/start water in water out ?

a) probably not enough to be honest and yes Lucas Heights has been running for a while,
b) how hard could it be if fken armenia has one and india has 23 lol
c) yes, nuclear subs don't require new rods in most cases

 

[true believer]

Cite where I said anything remotely close to this.

EPR (nuclear reactor) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In fact, it looks me like China were quite successful with their plants of the same design.

The Taishan Nuclear Power Plant (Chinese: 台山核电站; pinyin: Táishān Hédiànzhàn) is a nuclear power plant in Taishan, Guangdong province, China.[3] The plant features two operational EPR reactors.

Cost: US$7.5 billion
Plants: 2 × 1660 MW

bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha
is that the reactor ,that all the rods are falling apart ? they raised the minimum safe rad limit to glowing three headed fish ? has had more shutdowns 70's building site ? was built by slave labor ?

LNP engineering 101

 

[Spacks]

bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha
is that the reactor ,that all the rods are falling apart ? they raised the minimum safe rad limit to glowing three headed fish ? has had more shutdowns 70's building site ? was built by slave labor ?

LNP engineering 101

source pls

 

[true believer]

I was asking for evidence of her cayman bank accounts, that was the claim you made.


What are you waffling on about? What did I leave out and was it even relevant lol, you waffle on about a load of shit most of the time, sorry if I left out your ramblings.


a) in Doc Brown's DeLorean?
b) depends I guess on the contractor
c) cmon man
d) not sure they'd be good enough tbh
e) dig a hole under ayre's xD

to hard right

a) probably not enough to be honest and yes Lucas Heights has been running for a while,
b) how hard could it be if fken armenia has one and india has 23 lol
c) yes, nuclear subs don't require new rods in most cases

a) but what happened to nuclear high school and all the know how we needed ?
b) john winston howard right there . you know ukraine has a few as well
c) so their nothing like power stations are they ?

 

[Spacks]

to hard right

lol you're the one that made the claim of jill stein's cayman accounts without any proof to back up your claim. Deceitful.

 

[true believer]

lol you're the one that made the claim of jill stein's cayman accounts without any proof to back up your claim. Deceitful.

sure comrade.

Jill Stein paid $150,000 to a consultant who was indicted over Biden deepfake robocalls

Stein's campaign said that they were unaware that he had created the robocalls until he had nearly finished helping them with petitioning.

www.businessinsider.com

dosvidanya

 

[Spacks]

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The Green Party presidential candidate's campaign paid $150,015 to consultant Steve Kramer in May, according to documents filed with the Federal Election Commission on Wednesday.

ah yes the super secretive cayman account that she outed to the federal election commision?

Also, it doesn't mention a cayman account anywhere in this article.

source =

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[Spacks]

sure comrade.

Jill Stein paid $150,000 to a consultant who was indicted over Biden deepfake robocalls

Stein's campaign said that they were unaware that he had created the robocalls until he had nearly finished helping them with petitioning.

www.businessinsider.com

dosvidanya

so now you're calling me a russian shill? Are you dumb? You just make all these batshit crazy claims with no evidence of any of it. I provide sources for all my shit and you just brush over it all like it doesn't exist (or doesn't suit your narrative).

Like I said, deceitful.

 

[true believer]

comrade jill and the magical mystical reactors ?

Third Way

www.thirdway.org

dosvidanya

 

[true believer]

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ah yes the super secretive cayman account that she outed to the federal election commision?

Also, it doesn't mention a cayman account anywhere in this article.

source =

MSN

www.msn.com

of course comrade only russia today and fox can be trusted

ooh another 300k

Commission certifies additional federal matching funds for Mike Pence and Jill Stein - FEC.gov

FEC Record Public Funding Article Published September 12, 2024: Commission certifies additional federal matching funds for Mike Pence and Jill Stein

www.fec.gov

dosvidanya

 

[Spacks]

comrade jill and the magical mystical reactors ?

Third Way

www.thirdway.org

dosvidanya

yes keep pasting irrelevant articles, you still haven't addressed your claim, this one below

they don't have hundreds of thousands being poured in their cayman island bank accounts like
jill though

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Admit you made it up

 

[Spacks]

of course comrade only russia today and fox can be trusted



dosvidanya

ah so instead of addressing my claims you want to attack me as a russian shill, adding ad hominem to your list of logical fallacies you've employed in this thread. Deceitful.

 

[true believer]

so now you're calling me a russian shill? Are you dumb? You just make all these batshit crazy claims with no evidence of any of it. I provide sources for all my shit and you just brush over it all like it doesn't exist (or doesn't suit your narrative).

Like I said, deceitful.

stein or yourself ?

 

[true believer]

yes keep pasting irrelevant articles, you still haven't addressed your claim, this one below


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Admit you made it up

stein is worth 7 million . nice coin comrade