Danny vukovic and his brain snaps

[offtheball]

Fact is Danny had to come and if anything he was perhaps late in going but as a keeper once committed he had to keep going, my only issue is he probably needed to go to ground rather than hip and shoulder.....

He came out and although he left it late he may have kicked the ball out except that Wilko pushed it away from it's path and out of Danny's reach so when Aloi$i slammed into him he didn't have 'control' of the ball. Decision could have gone either way but by that stage Green was getting shakier and shakier in his decision making.

I reckon this is a pretty fair summation of what happened. Wilko definately was a key contributor to the tackle. As McKinna said Danny's biggest mistake was not calling for the ball and commanding his box

 

[~Floss~]

Just watched the replay: looks to me like Danny was heavily committed and Wilko's touch made it very difficult for Danny to adjust.
I'm no expert, but perhaps Danny could have called it or it might not have mattered if he dove low and at the ball. He was coming out so fast there was no way he could stay upright and pull out of his run without charging into JA.

 

[Atomic]

Just watched the replay: looks to me like Danny was heavily committed and Wilko's touch made it very difficult for Danny to adjust.
I'm no expert, but perhaps Danny could have called it or it might not have mattered if he dove low and at the ball. He was coming out so fast there was no way he could stay upright and pull out of his run without charging into JA.

My initial thought upon seeing it live was that it was another brain explosion by Danny. It looked deliberate to me but I dont know the subtleties of being a good goalie so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt (I'm sure he'll be happy to hear that  )

 

[Atomic]

I agree, the next time a player knocks the ball past him, he should just stand aside and let them score.

A quick handshake with the scorer, possibly a "well done old chap, got me there" is the sort of thing that we need.

If you think Aloi$i was going to knock the ball past Danny and score then you have rocks in your head mate. Last night was a definite brain snap... end of story.

Try borrowing a dictionary and looking up irony.

Sorry mate. It is a good thing then that I didn't post what I had initially typed 

 

[FFC Mariner]

Its all good

 

[serious14]

I gotta agree with Kevrenor (what is going on with me today?? ), I think Green made the wrong decision.

Fair enough it was a pretty rough challenge, but surely subconciously Danny was looking to smash the Judas c*nt into the ground..... whether that's good for our goalkeeper to approach a game with that attitude is another point entirely.  Probably not, but hey, the kid is passionate, unlike some other players out there at the moment.

Not to mention that at no point did Danny deny Aloi$i a goalscoring opportunity.  The ball was nearly out by the time Danny dropped the shoulder in, thus it should have been a free kick in the box, nothing more.  Of course, Green probably doesn't know that part of the law exists, because he's a f*cking clown.

 

[FFC Mariner]

No match review mate?

 

[clarence]

I haven't had the benefit of seeing a replay, but when I saw the incident last night at the stadium, it did appear that Danny went out of his way to over emphasise contact with Aloisi, and that he did so, to nullify Aloisi getting to the ball.

In other words, it looked like Danny had deliberately gone over the top of Aloisi to prevent Aloisi getting up or getting onto the ball. My first reaction was that Danny was gone.

In those circumstances I felt the yellow warranted.

The penalty itself should have been no celebration of the sort that Aloisi bunged on. Ffs, the first strike was well covered by Danny and it was only after the ref insisted on the penalty being retaken that Aloisi got the goal.

 

[jaypee]

Of course it was a penalty - it wasn't just obstruction - he dropped the shoulder - was a beautiful hit really - shame Judas could get up and play on....

 

[Roy Law]

It certainly wasn't a brain snap (whatever that means); Danny came for the ball and would have won it but Wilko knocked it away (Wilko doing the right thing also); once the ball had gone Danny was fully committed. Very unlucky as so far he has been pretty steady since his comeback. Bozza would not have come out coz he is too slow. It was pretty harsh on Danny as Sydney didn't look like scoring with their lazy three front men

 

[Part_Timer]

no comunication between captain and keeper imo...
great hit tbf

 

[adz]

Great hit, Danny should play AFL.

 

[Blackadder]

Doubt the overpaid oxygen thief would have reached the ball, so questionable as to if it was a penalty or not IMHO

 

[~Floss~]

Not to mention that at no point did Danny deny Aloi$i a goalscoring opportunity.  The ball was nearly out by the time Danny dropped the shoulder in, thus it should have been a free kick in the box, nothing more.  Of course, Green probably doesn't know that part of the law exists, because he's a f*cking clown.

That was my thought at the time; the ball was on its way out so it was obstruction (FK), not a goal-saving foul (Pen). But he did hit him pretty hard, not just get in his way.

 

[Blackadder]

Not to mention that at no point did Danny deny Aloi$i a goalscoring opportunity.  The ball was nearly out by the time Danny dropped the shoulder in, thus it should have been a free kick in the box, nothing more.  Of course, Green probably doesn't know that part of the law exists, because he's a f*cking clown.

That was my thought at the time; the ball was on its way out so it was obstruction (FK), not a goal-saving foul (Pen). But he did hit him pretty hard, not just get in his way.

Not hard enough, he got back up.

 

[voice of reason]

Fact is Danny had to come and if anything he was perhaps late in going but as a keeper once committed he had to keep going, my only issue is he probably needed to go to ground rather than hip and shoulder.....

He came out and although he left it late he may have kicked the ball out except that Wilko pushed it away from it's path and out of Danny's reach so when Aloi$i slammed into him he didn't have 'control' of the ball. Decision could have gone either way but by that stage Green was getting shakier and shakier in his decision making.

don't normally find myself disagreeing with the forum's grand old man, but I think Green had a top game and very definitely made the right decision here.  I don't think he ever looked shaky and always seemed to be in a good position to make the decision.  No way was it a send off but it was definitely a mistimed tackle, deserving of a penalty.  The encroachment when the kick was taken was also deserving of a retake, unfortunately, but it all came out in the wash

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Doubt the overpaid oxygen thief would have reached the ball, so questionable as to if it was a penalty or not IMHO

doesn't make a difference as to whether or not the ball was in his possession - it doesn't change to an indirect, or no foul, just because he may have lost possession

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Not to mention that at no point did Danny deny Aloi$i a goalscoring opportunity.  The ball was nearly out by the time Danny dropped the shoulder in, thus it should have been a free kick in the box, nothing more.  Of course, Green probably doesn't know that part of the law exists, because he's a f*cking clown.

That was my thought at the time; the ball was on its way out so it was obstruction (FK), not a goal-saving foul (Pen). But he did hit him pretty hard, not just get in his way.

sorry, but i just had to clarify here it's either impeding (no contact, indirect free kick, no matter where on the field it is) or charging(contact, direct free kick or penalty if it's in the box) whether or not there's an obvious goalscoring opportunity (or even a not-so-obvious one for a caution) will only affect a decision on a card, not the type of restart. Not really sure how anybody can claim this wasn't a free kick - he completely missed the ball and totally cleaned up aloisi. I reckon serious would also be slagging off green if it had instead happened at the other end of the field and the pen wasn't given

 

[serious14]

Jason, f*ck off with your logic mate, it has no place in this debate.

Forumer formerly known as Greenpole - but we played good for parts of the game..... I can hardly do a match review of that, can I?? 

 

[FFC Mariner]

Jason, f*ck off with your logic mate, it has no place in this debate.

Forumer formerly known as Greenpole - but we played good for parts of the game..... I can hardly do a match review of that, can I??  

In the interests of balance, I think you should. The 2nd half provided a fair few ordinary bits for you to rant about.