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Danny vukovic and his brain snaps

soundsdifferent

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theres no douting that i love danny as our goalie and i think he is a great player,
but seriously if he keaps having brain snaps and running into people and taking them out, hitting the ref etc i cant see him ever getting into the australian squad.
because will pim let a player who cant control his emotions into the team.
and will his emotions continue to take a toll on the mariners.
does something need to be done (in no way am i suggesting that we get rid of him at all)?
 

dub

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soundsdifferent said:
theres no douting that i love danny as our goalie and i think he is a great player,
but seriously if he keaps having brain snaps and running into people and taking them out, hitting the ref etc i cant see him ever getting into the australian squad.
because will pim let a player who cant control his emotions into the team.
and will his emotions continue to take a toll on the mariners.
does something need to be done (in no way am i suggesting that we get rid of him at all)?
No he should have been watching from the sideline while we had Bozza and that was only a short spell and we need him back for the rest of the season and take us into Asia he can only learn.
 

tyler8

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Totally agree with you, i was at the adelaide game when we won 3-0 and in the second half the adelaide supporters were giving it too him, as they would and danny was giving it back to them, i thought to myself, mate just get over it and point to the scoreboard and thats enough said.

Then after the game i watched danny heaps closely and he took off his gloves looked straight at the adelaide supporters yelled abuse at them and proceeded to give them the finger.

Massive danny fan but his temper will be the only thing holding him back from a european club, he is already got the gf incident on his resume, needs to work it out and quick
 

soundsdifferent

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dub said:
soundsdifferent said:
theres no douting that i love danny as our goalie and i think he is a great player,
but seriously if he keaps having brain snaps and running into people and taking them out, hitting the ref etc i cant see him ever getting into the australian squad.
because will pim let a player who cant control his emotions into the team.
and will his emotions continue to take a toll on the mariners.
does something need to be done (in no way am i suggesting that we get rid of him at all)?
No he should have been watching from the sideline while we had Bozza and that was only a short spell and we need him back for the rest of the season and take us into Asia he can only learn.

i agree, i read so much about danny learning from bosnich.
and i think he needs to learn more.
like and it will help danny in the long run i think if that was to happen.
 

FFC Mariner

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I agree, the next time a player knocks the ball past him, he should just stand aside and let them score.

A quick handshake with the scorer, possibly a "well done old chap, got me there" is the sort of thing that we need.



:headbutt:
 

-AL-

Active Member
everyone loves him because he does wear his heart on his sleeve and shows his emotions. i think its good to see someone like that. i dont really want him to be soulless like all the other keepers in the league.
he may get us into trouble sometimes but he more than makes up for it with the saves he pulls off more often than not. 
 

Atomic

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FFC Mariner said:
I agree, the next time a player knocks the ball past him, he should just stand aside and let them score.

A quick handshake with the scorer, possibly a "well done old chap, got me there" is the sort of thing that we need.

If you think Aloisi was going to knock the ball past Danny and score then you have rocks in your head mate. Last night was a definite brain snap... end of story.
 

marinermick

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Atomic said:
FFC Mariner said:
I agree, the next time a player knocks the ball past him, he should just stand aside and let them score.

A quick handshake with the scorer, possibly a "well done old chap, got me there" is the sort of thing that we need.

If you think Aloi$i was going to knock the ball past Danny and score then you have rocks in your head mate. Last night was a definite brain snap... end of story.

no, it was just a mistimed tackle

goalkeepers haven't had years of playing on the field and are more likely to botch these things up

also, being the last man goalkeepers errors are more scrutinised than anywhere else on the pitch
 

soundsdifferent

Well-Known Member
marinermick said:
Atomic said:
FFC Mariner said:
I agree, the next time a player knocks the ball past him, he should just stand aside and let them score.

A quick handshake with the scorer, possibly a "well done old chap, got me there" is the sort of thing that we need.

If you think Aloi$i was going to knock the ball past Danny and score then you have rocks in your head mate. Last night was a definite brain snap... end of story.

no, it was just a mistimed tackle

goalkeepers haven't had years of playing on the field and are more likely to botch these things up

also, being the last man goalkeepers errors are more scrutinised than anywhere else on the pitch

i disagree i can see where you come from with that but it was more like he thought wat the heck saw allosi and just threw him self at him.
in my opionion
 

jaypee

Well-Known Member
soundsdifferent said:
marinermick said:
Atomic said:
FFC Mariner said:
I agree, the next time a player knocks the ball past him, he should just stand aside and let them score.

A quick handshake with the scorer, possibly a "well done old chap, got me there" is the sort of thing that we need.

If you think Aloi$i was going to knock the ball past Danny and score then you have rocks in your head mate. Last night was a definite brain snap... end of story.

no, it was just a mistimed tackle

goalkeepers haven't had years of playing on the field and are more likely to botch these things up

also, being the last man goalkeepers errors are more scrutinised than anywhere else on the pitch

i disagree i can see where you come from with that but it was more like he thought wat the heck saw allosi and just threw him self at him.
in my opionion

And you have played keeper at what level?????

Sorry but I just love how high and mighty we all get with regards to our players. Fact is they all make mistakes - Bozza Danny all of them. Fact is Danny had to come and if anything he was perhaps late in going but as a keeper once committed he had to keep going, my only issue is he probably needed to go to ground rather than hip and shoulder.....

As DT stated - we all would have wanted to smash Aloisi - at least Danny got the chance and carried it out
 

soundsdifferent

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jaypee said:
soundsdifferent said:
marinermick said:
Atomic said:
FFC Mariner said:
I agree, the next time a player knocks the ball past him, he should just stand aside and let them score.

A quick handshake with the scorer, possibly a "well done old chap, got me there" is the sort of thing that we need.

If you think Aloi$i was going to knock the ball past Danny and score then you have rocks in your head mate. Last night was a definite brain snap... end of story.

no, it was just a mistimed tackle

goalkeepers haven't had years of playing on the field and are more likely to botch these things up

also, being the last man goalkeepers errors are more scrutinised than anywhere else on the pitch

i disagree i can see where you come from with that but it was more like he thought wat the heck saw allosi and just threw him self at him.
in my opionion

And you have played keeper at what level?????

Sorry but I just love how high and mighty we all get with regards to our players. Fact is they all make mistakes - Bozza Danny all of them. Fact is Danny had to come and if anything he was perhaps late in going but as a keeper once committed he had to keep going, my only issue is he probably needed to go to ground rather than hip and shoulder.....

As DT stated - we all would have wanted to smash Aloi$i - at least Danny got the chance and carried it out

when you say he went for the soldier i rekon that was the brain snap it was he didnt go for the ball like i think in that he left himself very very open to a red card and i think he is lucky not to have got a red. but if he had gone more for the ball it proberly still would have been a penilty but he wouldnt leave him self open like im not angry that he took alosi out i think its quite funny but if he got a red card which he could have it would have changed the game,
and i think he takes alot of unnessicery risks
 

jaypee

Well-Known Member
soundsdifferent said:
jaypee said:
soundsdifferent said:
marinermick said:
Atomic said:
FFC Mariner said:
I agree, the next time a player knocks the ball past him, he should just stand aside and let them score.

A quick handshake with the scorer, possibly a "well done old chap, got me there" is the sort of thing that we need.

If you think Aloi$i was going to knock the ball past Danny and score then you have rocks in your head mate. Last night was a definite brain snap... end of story.

no, it was just a mistimed tackle

goalkeepers haven't had years of playing on the field and are more likely to botch these things up

also, being the last man goalkeepers errors are more scrutinised than anywhere else on the pitch

i disagree i can see where you come from with that but it was more like he thought wat the heck saw allosi and just threw him self at him.
in my opionion

And you have played keeper at what level?????

Sorry but I just love how high and mighty we all get with regards to our players. Fact is they all make mistakes - Bozza Danny all of them. Fact is Danny had to come and if anything he was perhaps late in going but as a keeper once committed he had to keep going, my only issue is he probably needed to go to ground rather than hip and shoulder.....

As DT stated - we all would have wanted to smash Aloi$i - at least Danny got the chance and carried it out

when you say he went for the soldier i rekon that was the brain snap it was he didnt go for the ball like i think in that he left himself very very open to a red card and i think he is lucky not to have got a red. but if he had gone more for the ball it proberly still would have been a penilty but he wouldnt leave him self open like im not angry that he took alosi out i think its quite funny but if he got a red card which he could have it would have changed the game,
and i think he takes alot of unnessicery risks

Ok understand what you are saying - yep he is a riskier keeper in some aspects than others but remember how Risky the greatest Mariner ever - Mat Trott was....... Risky to our Goal Difference....
 

kevrenor

Well-Known Member
Fact is Danny had to come and if anything he was perhaps late in going but as a keeper once committed he had to keep going, my only issue is he probably needed to go to ground rather than hip and shoulder.....

He came out and although he left it late he may have kicked the ball out except that Wilko pushed it away from it's path and out of Danny's reach so when Aloi$i slammed into him he didn't have 'control' of the ball. Decision could have gone either way but by that stage Green was getting shakier and shakier in his decision making.
 

jaypee

Well-Known Member
kevrenor said:
Fact is Danny had to come and if anything he was perhaps late in going but as a keeper once committed he had to keep going, my only issue is he probably needed to go to ground rather than hip and shoulder.....

He came out and although he left it late he may have kicked the ball out except that Wilko pushed it away from it's path and out of Danny's reach so when Aloi$i slammed into him he didn't have 'control' of the ball. Decision could have gone either way but by that stage Green was getting shakier and shakier in his decision making.

True - Green was very shaky by then.....
 

soundsdifferent

Well-Known Member
jaypee said:
kevrenor said:
Fact is Danny had to come and if anything he was perhaps late in going but as a keeper once committed he had to keep going, my only issue is he probably needed to go to ground rather than hip and shoulder.....

He came out and although he left it late he may have kicked the ball out except that Wilko pushed it away from it's path and out of Danny's reach so when Aloi$i slammed into him he didn't have 'control' of the ball. Decision could have gone either way but by that stage Green was getting shakier and shakier in his decision making.

True - Green was very shaky by then.....

at least we went away with a win which we deserved and so needed
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
Atomic said:
FFC Mariner said:
I agree, the next time a player knocks the ball past him, he should just stand aside and let them score.

A quick handshake with the scorer, possibly a "well done old chap, got me there" is the sort of thing that we need.

If you think Aloi$i was going to knock the ball past Danny and score then you have rocks in your head mate. Last night was a definite brain snap... end of story.

Try borrowing a dictionary and looking up irony.
 

Capn Gus Bloodbeard

Well-Known Member
Wow, last time I said something about his brain snaps I got abused on here something chronic :)

I was a bit concerned after he got booked for dissenting the ref before this season (let's not get into the debate about whether or not he stood out again), but he's kept his mouth shut during the season, and he hasn't really done anything wrong, IIRC. 

Danny should've been able to time last night's challenge better - he just miscalculated Aloisi's speed, and decided he may as well take out the player.  Yeah, it was a brain snap, and a pity he didn't get the challenge right from the start, but oh well.  IMO, a keeper needs to take out some players from time to time - he's gotta dominate the box, and you want doubt to creep into the minds of the strikers every time they enter the box.

Danny's always been one of these keeper who commits to balls a long way out from his goal area - and when you do that, you need to really commit.  How many times has he _just_ gotten to a ball before his opponent, 30 yards out from goal?  If you hesitate in those situations, your opponent is going to beat you - or you'll take him out and get sent off.  Get it right, as he so often does, and you've made a spectacular save.  The fact that he keeps like this is part of what we all love about him - and the fact that he gets it right 99% of the time is part of why he's such a great keeper.  Naturally, when you do this there are inherent risks involved.  The fact that he got it wrong last night really isn't enough for me to doubt him as a keeper.

I believe he has worked on his temper - he hasn't been abusing the referee, and he no longer runs half the field to get involved in a scuffle. 

You know, if Aloisi had tapped the ball to the left instead of straight, Danny might have gotten sent off instead - so really, it wasn't all that bad.  Thank god Aloisi doesn't have the confidence to try that and score off his left :D
 

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