Central Coast Mariners Supporters Club

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[FFC Mariner]

And even though they didn't exist, WSW would have done it before anyone ...and done it better.

 

[Atomic]

Sailing.

I don't give a f**k who sung what and when. Sailing makes sense and it's up to us to own it. Lets not let other deluded fans of other teams tell us what we can and can't do.

 

[eenfish]

Sailing.

I don't give a f**k who sung what and when. Sailing makes sense and it's up to us to own it. Lets not let other deluded fans of other teams tell us what we can and can't do.

I like your attitude, Atomic. I'm down.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Sailing.

I don't give a f**k who sung what and when. Sailing makes sense and it's up to us to own it. Lets not let other deluded fans of other teams tell us what we can and can't do.

This for me. Good post.

 

[eenfish]

At least we aren't Melbourne Victory fans.

Apparently, the government is meddling with how they manage the North Terrace because they claim there has been so many incidents in their active support. They've dramatically cut the allocated active support area, and if there is any more incidents then there will be the elimination of all active support at Melbourne Victory games. I think I'd rather have our problem than theirs at the moment TBH.

 

[MrCelery]

This for me. Good post.

Ditto me. Good point made.

 

[montywoodpeg]

Active support, to my mind is an integral part of the game ... However, active support needs to be tied to what is going on in the game. if someone on the opposition needs a serve - give it to them. If the team is struggling - give them a lift. Some of the best support is the funniest.

I had a good discussion with my father recently about the differences between active and passive support, primarily contrasting football supporters with AFL supporters. What it mostly came down to was active vs reactive. Football active support make noise and raise the morale of the team as much as possible. My first hand experience is with WSW; The RBB put in a lot of effort from before kickoff to after the game to after the final whistle, and you can see it makes the team persist longer, go in harder and never quit, players are less likely to drop their head and turn on teammates. Support is always there and always pushing the players to do better. Passive or reactive support waits for something to happen and responds, cheering one of the many goals in AFL or chanting the name of the team when they go on a hot streak, starting a mexican wave when the action is slow around the middle of the oval. This isn't about Football vs AFL, but an example of the types of support and the effect it has.

I honestly cringed at some of the RBB support. The use/overuse of flares, turning the back on the game, silence for the first 20 minutes in protest at the club and security, the overuse of the call and response chants especially when it doesn't fit with the flow of the game. Active support is part of the game - it is not 'the game'.

Flares are a story of their own, but the Poznan is a symbolic gesture - it means "We'll stick together no matter what happens on the field" for the RBB, it's always performed in the 81st minute to represent the ties to the first game played in 1880 (it shows 80:## on the clock, but technically the 81st min ). A lot of the RBB chants are saying 'we'll always be here for you', and bringing in the call and response really drives the players by getting support from all sides, not just one end reinforcing that everyone there is behind the team. It's powerful, and players love it. The chants and such are there to change the flow of the game, not necessarily respond to it.

I hope that makes some sense, but for active support, in a lot of ways, the RBB are setting a good example for supporter groups across the country. I can't say I've seen all active supporter groups at home, the above has been based on my experience.

 

[priorpeter]

I had a good discussion with my father recently about the differences between active and passive support, primarily contrasting football supporters with AFL supporters. What it mostly came down to was active vs reactive. Football active support make noise and raise the morale of the team as much as possible. My first hand experience is with WSW; The RBB put in a lot of effort from before kickoff to after the game to after the final whistle, and you can see it makes the team persist longer, go in harder and never quit, players are less likely to drop their head and turn on teammates. Support is always there and always pushing the players to do better. Passive or reactive support waits for something to happen and responds, cheering one of the many goals in AFL or chanting the name of the team when they go on a hot streak, starting a mexican wave when the action is slow around the middle of the oval. This isn't about Football vs AFL, but an example of the types of support and the effect it has.



Flares are a story of their own, but the Poznan is a symbolic gesture - it means "We'll stick together no matter what happens on the field" for the RBB, it's always performed in the 81st minute to represent the ties to the first game played in 1880 (it shows 80:## on the clock, but technically the 81st min ). A lot of the RBB chants are saying 'we'll always be here for you', and bringing in the call and response really drives the players by getting support from all sides, not just one end reinforcing that everyone there is behind the team. It's powerful, and players love it. The chants and such are there to change the flow of the game, not necessarily respond to it.

I hope that makes some sense, but for active support, in a lot of ways, the RBB are setting a good example for supporter groups across the country. I can't say I've seen all active supporter groups at home, the above has been based on my experience.

QFT. Good post.

 

[Roy Law]

Having watched the video of Marcos Flores singing I think our anthem has to be 'La Bamba'

 

[dibo]

Soy no habla Español, lo siento.

 

[pjennings]

I had a good discussion with my father recently about the differences between active and passive support, primarily contrasting football supporters with AFL supporters. What it mostly came down to was active vs reactive. Football active support make noise and raise the morale of the team as much as possible. My first hand experience is with WSW; The RBB put in a lot of effort from before kickoff to after the game to after the final whistle, and you can see it makes the team persist longer, go in harder and never quit, players are less likely to drop their head and turn on teammates. Support is always there and always pushing the players to do better. Passive or reactive support waits for something to happen and responds, cheering one of the many goals in AFL or chanting the name of the team when they go on a hot streak, starting a mexican wave when the action is slow around the middle of the oval. This isn't about Football vs AFL, but an example of the types of support and the effect it has.

Flares are a story of their own, but the Poznan is a symbolic gesture - it means "We'll stick together no matter what happens on the field" for the RBB, it's always performed in the 81st minute to represent the ties to the first game played in 1880 (it shows 80:## on the clock, but technically the 81st min ). A lot of the RBB chants are saying 'we'll always be here for you', and bringing in the call and response really drives the players by getting support from all sides, not just one end reinforcing that everyone there is behind the team. It's powerful, and players love it. The chants and such are there to change the flow of the game, not necessarily respond to it.

I hope that makes some sense, but for active support, in a lot of ways, the RBB are setting a good example for supporter groups across the country. I can't say I've seen all active supporter groups at home, the above has been based on my experience.

Cheers - I did know the history but it is worth spelling it out.

The Victory groups and the RBB do what they do and it works for them. My point is that we need to develop what works for us.

I'm not anti active support at all. I just think that it can be overdone to the point where it is all about the supporters and not about the football. I also think there is a world of difference between passive support and what I was advocating (what you have called reactive support). The football and the support need to work together - not against each other. BTW - this view has also been expressed by some Wanderers members (not RBB) that I work with. I doubt it is the prevailing view at Parramatta - just as I doubt that my view is in the majority at Bluetongue.

 

[TysonP]

In regards to the club song, what are people's thoughts on this one...So close no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trust in who we are
And nothing else matters

 

[Atomic]

You want to know my thoughts? It's so far off the mark that it's not funny. Why can't people grasp the concept that Sailing should be our song???

Having said that though, Metallica sometimes works...

 

[TysonP]

Sydney have already started using Sailing. If Manchester United start singing YNWA then our search for our own song is over.

 

[Atomic]

 

[montywoodpeg]

The Victory groups and the RBB do what they do and it works for them. My point is that we need to develop what works for us.

Ah yes, I entirely agree. The Coast is quite a unique landscape compared to the fanbases of the other clubs. I think you understood what I meant, but I was mostly meaning the active support of the RBB has done a good job of creating matchday excitement and getting people involved.

I'm not anti active support at all. I just think that it can be overdone to the point where it is all about the supporters and not about the football. I also think there is a world of difference between passive support and what I was advocating (what you have called reactive support).

I did inadvertently lump passive support and reactive support together. Perhaps I don't understand the part about it being more about the supporters than the football. For those who wish to be a part of the high-octane supporters experience, there's the active support section, for those somewhat interested, there's the surrounding bays, but you can still watch the game from just about anywhere in the stadium bar the bathrooms and the food/beverage queues.

I'm not one for joining active support every game for the same reason I don't enjoy clubs/clubbing, but I'd certainly back the growth of active support and create the best possible atmosphere at the game that boosts the players and experience for all supporters.

As I said, I don't quite understand your point. Do you see a detrimental effect of active support, or is it more a direction you would prefer it go?

 

[pjennings]

Again - this is written from an ex Bay 16 member who realised he couldn't see shit from Bay 16.

I want the Mariners active support to increase. However, imagine the team is attacking the Brisbane Water end. The last thing you need is a call and response chant from the Bay 16. That is what I mean by 'the football and the support need to work together - not against each other'. In that situation it seems to be saying don't look at the football - look at us in Bay 16. It may not be meant that way - but that is how it would seem.

Being mindful of what is happening on the pitch and trying to add to it is what I call active support and what I hope the members of Bay 16 and surrounds try to achieve.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

I agree with Atomic.

There are plenty of songs I like. But Sailing is a truly great fit.

I don't care if Sydney were the first thieves on the Millwall premises. Their still just thieves. We owe them nothing. Besides, not doing something because it may upset opposition supporters is crazy talk. Just the fact it may annoy some SFC fans makes it infinitely more attractive to me.

Win win as far as I can tell.

 

[Big Al]

At the end of the day our home is by the water & we are named mariners. If sailing works then it would have a lot more appeal to us & should be used.

Some times you copy shit & sometimes you take someone's ideas & do it better