CCM vs MPL Select - 14th July 2010

[dibo]

The only way you're fitting Perez, McGlinchey and Olly in the same team is if you play a 4-3-3 (which might otherwise be called a 4-1-4-1).

You can't sacrifice the DM just because you don't think it's sexy football - you need someone to screen the centre of defence, break up play, intercept passes and then set the tempo by pinging lots of simple balls around. Whether that's Hutch or Pedj is up to the gaffer, but you'll need one of them. The little blokes aren't going to be able to do the heavy work in the middle.


            GK
Wilko Doig Zwaanswijk Rose
          Hutch
    Perez    Bozanic
Kwasnik          McGlinchey
        DMac II

 

[bulldogmariner]

We will get a better picture after the game against Sydney. He changed most of the squad at half time. The Way Wilko played last night he could be right side of a back 4 or 3. I think the squad he has back 3 could be a better option.

 

[marinermick]

With him & Mcglinchey in the Central midfield I can`t see Hutcho getting much of a run this year.

I am astounded at the amount of people who lump midfielders all into the same category.

Do we really think McGlinchey or Bozanic can effectively play a defensive midfield role?

Bozanic and weemac worked brilliantly together last night

as attacking midfielders

 

[marinermick]

Marinermick,
Ok, so we have attacking midfielders, defensive midfielders, wide midfielders, tall midfielders,small midfielders,creative midfielders, lazy midfielders. Sorry if i left any other type of midfielder out.
My point was :- I don`t think Hutcho will get much of a run because Weemac & Boz (in my book) are certain starters.
I don`t class Hutcho as a wide-man simply becase he is a bit slower, he doesn`t like making long runs, he doesn`t run at players & take them on & his long game is pretty crap (sorry Hutcho).
So with Porter, Perez, Griffith,Gallagher,Lewis,Bojic etc. the competition for midfield spots is going to be very competitive.

Therefore, " I don`t think Hutcho will get much of a run".

Don`t get me wrong, I think it`s a good thing for everyone that we finally have options.

and my point is that mcglinchey and bozanic will not force hutchinson out of the side as they are attacking mids and hutch is a defensive mid

they are not like for like

the only players that conceivably force hutch out of this side is griffiths and bojic

 

[marinermick]

In other news, Scum played an NBN select side last night. They won 3-1 but guy here at work said that they were absolutely awful and the result was flattering.

He has grave concerns for them this season.

I so hope he is right

I had lunch with a guy who went and he said the jets were dire and that the NNSW were impressive, especially ex-NSL player Troy Halpin (37 years) in the middle.

He said that the jets were only saved through the dominace of Casey Whermann who imposed himself all night. He also said that Jeremy Brockie was dynamic on the left.

 

[neverwozza]

The only way you're fitting Perez, McGlinchey and Olly in the same team is if you play a 4-3-3 (which might otherwise be called a 4-1-4-1).

You can't sacrifice the DM just because you don't think it's sexy football - you need someone to screen the centre of defence, break up play, intercept passes and then set the tempo by pinging lots of simple balls around. Whether that's Hutch or Pedj is up to the gaffer, but you'll need one of them. The little blokes aren't going to be able to do the heavy work in the middle.


            GK
Wilko Doig Zwaanswijk Rose
          Hutch
    Perez    Bozanic
Kwasnik          McGlinchey
        DMac II

I liked the 4 4 2 they played down in Canberra but just want to see it against better opposition.

My preferred lineup at the moment is:

            GK
Porter Wilko Doig Rose
          Hutch
  McGlinchy    Bozanic
        Perez
  Kwasnik DMac II


Apart from a GK and the strikers being all very similiar we have a really well balanced squad at the moment. Players like Pej and Griffiths can cover the DM role and backline positions. There are some younger players that seem like they are knocking on the door. I haven't seen Perez train or play yet so I am just making a big assumption that he goes OK.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Porter or Kwas at RM in place of Wee Mac and I suspect it would be either Disco or Matty up front if we played 442

 

[dibo]

Leaving aside that we've never seen Perez play and we're all assuming he's wonderful on the basis of, well... nothing, we'll assume he walks into the #10 shirt. For much the same reason, we'll assume Zwaanswijk walks into the centre of defence. Wilko's the man to move.

In attack:

            GK
Wilko Dutchy Doig Rose
          Hutch
Porter              Bozanic
          Perez
  Kwasnik DMac II

Wide midfielders can pull inwards to allow fullbacks to push on. Central defenders push up immediately and the keeper provides relieving options and switches of play. There should be triangles all over the park.

In defence it crushes down to a 4-3-3, closing down the spaces between the lines and pressing the other team hard on the ball to move them up the park away from goal:

            GK
Wilko Zwaanswijk Doig Rose
  Porter Hutch Bozanic
  Simon Perez DMac II

 

[Kevint]

Thanks Nathan for a great explanation of why these guys in the select team, play Premier League and don't play reps. Once again, congratulations to everybody involved in putting on such a great night, I heard nothing but positive comments.

As great as the Mariners were winning 5-0, I think the Select Team never gave up and there was some great play from, to name a few, Shane McParland, Terry Dries, Matt Lawrence, Matt Page of course Damien Brown, though when he left the field the guys up front did get a bit more ball passed to them and both goal keepers made some great saves, in particular David Bolton. My best player for the Select team, would have been Ryan O'Connor. You could tell that there were some nerves in the beginning of both halves, but well done. and well done to the CCF. Keep up organising nights like this.

 

[Kareem]

anyone concerned over pace of defence...?
I dont think doig is that fast...and I assume Dutch CB (aka Swan district) isnt the most mobile

 

[marinermick]

anyone concerned over pace of defence...?
I dont think doig is that fast...and I assume Dutch CB (aka Swan district) isnt the most mobile

I had this discussion on the Sydney forum with a similar concern and the general consensus was that alot of the clubs last season had pretty slow defences (Sydney, Perth, Adelaide, Newcastle etc) but this was somewhat negated with a lack of pace in the majority of strike forces in the A-League.

Many of the strikers in the A-League are well into their thirties and have slowed somewhat.

Therefore I think the experience of players like Doig and the Dutch boy will make for their lack of pace, especially the Dutch boy (who we do not know how quick he is) who more than matched in the Dutch league last season.

 

[Symbahhhhhhh]

Doig doesn't need to be fast, his anger will scare attackers off.

he walked past me yesty cause I was on the fence, I nearly ran home.

 

[marinermick]

Doig doesn't need to be fast, his anger will scare attackers off.

he walked past me yesty cause I was on the fence, I nearly ran home.

yeah he has one mean mother-f**ker of a jaw

 

[Wilsons]

I thought Doig was well on the outer!!

 

[Symbahhhhhhh]

he was, but you can't fire a man of such pure raw anger.

 

[dibo]

Play smart and we should be able to work around it.

 

[style_cafe]

Kevint,
I agree with your choice of Ryan O`conner as the best Of the Premier league side.
I thought the PL team looked very nervous at the the start, but once O`Conner took on the defence down that left side the PL team lost the nerves & looked to be the better side for most of the first half.
It makes me wonder how good some of these kids could be if they were training & playing on a full time basis.
Simon & Porter are testament to giving the kids a go.
Certainly food for thought.

Marinermick,
Point taken...only time will tell but it`s a far better position to be in this year compared to last year.

 

[mariners4ever]

It makes me wonder how good some of these kids could be if they were training & playing on a full time basis.
Simon & Porter are testament to giving the kids a go.
Certainly food for thought.

to be fair most of these PL players arent "kids" as such, i'm not entirely sure of how old they are but they didnt look young compared to when smitta, redders, boogs and simon were given a go. oh yeah and another good testament of giving kids a go is ian mcandrew