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Forum Phoenix

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For those who can be bothered to help, can you please post any articles you find that are focused on CCM and also those articles where any derisive or positive comments are made of CCM within an article by the Australian press.

Pleas paste a link and cut and paste the article (in case it goes dead) with the source and writers name. Only articles from 10.08.16. on. Please exclude those by the club, their sponsors or direct affiliates.

This information is being compiled for data purposes only. I'd like to do some analytics on them in a years time, but I'll need help to compile anything even resembling a comprehensive record.

Thanks everyone
FP
 
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Forum Phoenix

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MCKINNA: WHY'D ROSE LEAVE?
By Con Stamocostas Aug 12 2016 11:23AM
Following the departure of Tony Walmsley, former Central Coast coach Lawrie McKinna says the Mariners owners should be giving home fans reasons why they allowed club veteran Josh Rose to leave the club.

Soon after the sacking of Tony Walmsley, the Mariners Championship winning left back Josh Rose departed the club for Melbourne City.

After a long association with the Gosford side, Lawrie McKinna is now CEO of rival club Newcastle after helping facilitate the takeover of the Jets by the Ledman group. He may not be part of the Mariners but McKinna still feels strongly about why a stalwart like Rose left Central Coast.

“Fans are wanting to know why Josh Rose has gone,” he said.

“I’m at the Jets now I’m just focusing on what’s happening here, but Josh Rose has been a great servant. Josh has got his reasons for leaving. I sent him a message just so I can wish him all the best and he got back to me.

“If that was Newcastle Jets, I’d be letting people know why people like Josh Rose has left the club. I wouldn’t be having speculation there because there is too much speculation at the moment.

For over a decade McKinna was an ever present figure on the Central Coast.

As manager he took the club to two A-League Grand Final appearances in 2006 and 2008 as well as winning the Premiers Plate in the 2007/08 season.

Bewteen 2012 and 2016 he was voted in as the Gosford Mayor for a record four consecutive years.

With Walmsley being stood down as Mariners coach McKinna says the club needs stability and believes a local replacement would achive that.

“I think there are a lot of good Australian coaches,” he said. “I don’t think they need to go overseas to get good quality coaches, but obviously the Mariners have got Peter Storrie and Mick Charlesworth there who might look to go there again. But I don’t know what they’re going to do.

“We are playing the Mariners on the weekend up in Tamworth and John Hutchinson will be in charge but I think they’ll bring in - I would think an Aussie coach - someone with experience who will come in and steady the ship.

One of the candidates who is considered a strong choice for the Mariners vacant manager’s position is Mark Rudan - who during his time in charge at Sydney United, won the NSW NPL Championship in 2013 and also leads the league this season.

“It’s quite clear that I want to continue to improve,” he said. “I’m a young coach that obviously like a lot of other young coaches out there we are all working hard for the next opportunity.

“It’s a bit unfortunate in this country there are only 10 professional A-League clubs to coach at, it’s not easy to be a professional coach in Australia.

“I take my hat off to all the coaches out there, whether it be at an amateur level semi-professional or professional because you’re up against it. The numbers stack up against you. But you need to have a dream you need to continue to work on your craft and believe in yourself and believe that one day hopefully the right people sit up and notice of your work.”

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MARTH: MARINERS ARE AN EMBARRASSMENT
By Clement Tito Aug 11 2016 1:14PM
Melbourne Knights coach Andrew Marth labels Central Coast Mariners’ departure from the FFA Cup as an “embarrassment” and believes the result should push for a promotion and relegation rule.


Victorian based Knights triumphed over Western Australian NPL side Cockburn City 2-1 in the FFA Cup Round of 32 on Wednesday night. Shortly after it was announced they drew Victorian NPL side Green Gully for last 16 of the tournament.

Gully produced one of the shocks of the tournament so far, defeating A-League side Central Coast Mariners last week and although Marth conceded it spurred them on to match it with clubs in higher division, the former Socceroo did not hold back with his criticisms.

“I’m probably being a bit harsh here, but I thought Central Coast were an absolute embarrassment to be perfectly honest,” Marth said.

“I’m not taking away anything from Green Gully, but you would’ve looked at the Mariners and you wouldn’t know if they are an A-League team or an NPL team.

“I think sooner the relegation comes into the A-League, you won’t have these embarrassments because that was an embarrassment.”

With the FFA Cup being just two years young, Marth was also happy with the exposure the tournament gives to NPL sides on a national scale.

The Knights boss also spoke of striker Stipo Andrijasevic, who has the opportunity with A-League club Wellington Phoenix and believed it was an indication of the progress of local football.

“It was an absolutely a brilliant idea (FFA Cup) and credit must go to the people who have put it up and the behind the scenes work,” he said.

“It gives our players an exposure to the national stage and Stipo is going over to Wellington for a trial next week we’ve got some young boys we’ve blooded this year.

“We’re a club that produces young kids and we’ll continue to do it. We’re a small budgeted club and the proofs in the pudding so to speak.

“I think he (Andrijasevic) deserves it, he did exceptional last year and had a good season this year.”

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PALMED OFF: MARINERS DITCH THE PALM TREES!
By Staff Writer Aug 10 2016 1:53PM
Central Coast Mariners have lifted the wraps on their new kit - and revealed a striking new look...minus the unique palm trees on the front of last season's shirts.


Compared to last season’s bold kit that was yellow from top-to-toe with the infamous Central Coast Stadium palm trees front and centre, the Mariners have worked closely with Umbro on a classic design that features a striking navy stripe down the sides and navy socks.

But it still retains a very specific link to Gosford with the co-ordinates of the stadium featured on the top of the neck of the new shirt - and four more modestly-sized palm trees still lurk on the back.

The Mariners announced in June that they would be switching kit suppliers to Umbro for the next two Hyundai A-League seasons at least.

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And today, the new-look kits were launched at the Entertainment Grounds in Gosford, with both the yellow home kit and navy blue away kit on display.

Central Coast Mariners’ CEO, Shaun Mielekamp - currently hunting a replacement for head coach Tony Walmsley who was fired earlier this week - said he was looking forward to the season ahead.

“The unveiling of our new kit is another reason to be excited for the Hyundai A-League 2016/17 season,” Mielekamp said. “We would like to thank Umbro for delivering a classic design that is a striking bright yellow.

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“This is an enthralling season for the club."

He added: "The navy colouring represents the unknown and exciting opportunities when travelling away but with the co-ordinates and palm trees of Central Coast Stadium stamped on the top of the neck, we will take a small piece of the Central Coast with us wherever we go.

“Our new jersey is bright but our future is even brighter.”

Another teal/sky blue shirt design tweeted by fan group Yellow Army appears to be either a training top or alternate keeper's shirt, despite being hailed as the club's new away kit by the fans.

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JoyfulPenguin

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For those who can be bothered to help, can you please post any articles you find that are focused on CCM and also those articles where any derisive or positive comments are made of CCM within an article by the Australian press.

Pleas paste a link and cut and paste the article (in case it goes dead) with the source and writers name. Only articles from 10.08.16. on. Please exclude those by the club, their sponsors or direct affiliates.

This information is being compiled for data purposes only. I'd like to do some analytics on them in a years time, but I'll need help to compile anything even resembling a comprehensive record.

Thanks everyone
FP
Hey FP is it alright to post articles that basically just mention us and are from overseas?
 

Luca Brasi

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Central Coast Mariners new head coach will not be given full salary cap to build squad


http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...alary-cap-to-build-squad-20160812-gqrgc9.html

Central Coast Mariners will begin interviews for their next head coach as early as next week, but the club's chairman has ruled out allowing Tony Walmsley's replacement the full salary cap to spend on the squad.

The Mariners' new man in the dugout will have to work within the same tight budget constraints forced on Walmsley. The Mariners finished last season as wooden spooners, spending significantly less on their squad than rival clubs.

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Gone: Former Mariners coach Tony Walmsley. Photo: Getty Images

Majority owner Mike Charlesworth reaffirmed his commitment to providing no more than the bare minimum of funding towards the senior squad for at least one more season, citing financial reasons for not allowing the club to spend the full salary cap of $2.6 million.

The new coach will be limited in shaping the club, which has all but completed its playing roster for the upcoming season and filled its allocation of five visa players.

The Mariners remain open to appointing either a local or foreign coach, although their fifth coach won't be able to sign more than two players. The club released veteran left back Josh Rose on Friday, freeing up some salary cap and squad space, but the new Mariners boss will only be allowed to spend the permitted minimum of 87.5 per cent of the salary cap.

Despite the restrictions, Charlesworth denies the lack of flexibility will be a deterrent to applicants.


"That's the test for the coach isn't it?" Charlesworth said. "A coach who comes in and says I want this, I want that ... well that's probably not going to fit into the Mariners anyway. You're not going to have the budget to compete with other clubs by and large anyway, so, if you're the kind of coach that wants, wants and wants, it's probably not the right position.

"You've got to work with what you've got, so, if that's the existing squad, the existing budget, the conditions around fan engagement and community work, then the fit's not right. But I don't think it's going to be a huge problem, I think the squad is very competitive this year."

The Mariners made the sudden decision to sack the underperforming Walmsley deep into pre-season after a poor showing in the FFA Cup, as well as a major downturn in membership sales for the upcoming season.

Charlesworth says the club is growing increasingly alienated from its small, yet loyal, fan base as a result of their poor finish to last season and recent results, and was left with no other option but to part ways with Walmsley.

The low uptake of season tickets, combined with the 2-1 loss to Green Gully in the FFA Cup round of 32, was the final straw for the club that had remained patient with Walmsley, despite the former coach guiding the Mariners to the worst record by any Australian A-League club in history.

"It was partly driven by the result last week and it was also largely driven by a commercial position as well," Charlesworth said. "It was increasingly difficult to sell memberships and so that, at the end of the day, unfortunately, drives the club. You have to look closely at that, which was the final factor in the decision-making process."

Former Brisbane Roar title-winning coach Mike Mulvey has already signalled his intent to return to the A-League after Walmsley's sacking.

Charlesworth is to meet with executive vice chairman Peter Storrie in London over the weekend to go through the list of candidates before beginning interviews shortly afterwards.

"We're looking around right now, there's a lot of interest in the job, as you can imagine, and I'd like to think that we can start the interview process in the next couple of days and make a decision in the next couple of weeks," Charlesworth said.
 

Forum Phoenix

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Hey FP is it alright to post articles that basically just mention us and are from overseas?
Hey JP, wanting Australian press only and though it's a bit hard to qualify - I think the best guidelines would be anything which has a sentence or more that involves commentary/opinion - as opposed to just a score or result. Thanks.
 
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Trouble in paradise: The three issues facing the Central Coast Mariners
By Dominic Unwin, 13 Aug 2016

http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/08/13/trouble-paradise-three-issues-facing-central-coast-mariners/

Dear oh dear, just what is going on at the Central Coast Mariners?

Just days after sacking manager Tony Walmsley, the head honchos at Terrigal have agreed to release veteran Josh Rose.

Rose’s departure was not a tactical decision but one made by the man himself.

How could things have got so bad that one of your club legends, at age 34, would rather pack up and leave then play out his days with one of the world’s best-located clubs?

Rose’s request to terminate his contract and link-up with Melbourne City, where he will be hard-pressed to start, could well be the straw that breaks the camel’s back as the Mariners attempt to keep things together as the season approaches.

Let’s take a look at the issues facing Central Coast.

Tony Walmsley
Let’s start with the obvious one, the lack of a coach. Purely looking at results, Walmsley’s sacking was never going to raise any eyebrows.

Last season’s record of three wins from 27 matches is not the stuff of long-serving mangers but given the circumstances it shouldn’t have come into consideration.

Walmsley and the Mariners announced loud and clear their intention to rebuild at the start of season 2015-16 and blooded a host of youngsters. This invariably led to their miserable record but throughout the year the Mariners board and in particular owner Mike Charlesworth stated their support for Walmsley and what he was trying to achieve.

Those ambitions looked to have stepped up a notch after the off-season signings of Michael Taveres and Jacques Faty, both from Sydney FC, added some much-needed experience and backbone to Central Coast’s defence.

Two players do not make a team however, and the loss of the talented Mitch Austin combined with their dreadful result against Green Gully in the FFA Cup pointed to another miserable campaign.

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Although results hadn’t seemed too much a problem for the board, Walmsley’s tense relationship with a number of senior players looks to have played a part in the decision. Veteran custodian Liam Reddy was let go after a clash of opinions and Austin had seen enough and wanted out. Rose’s departure seems to be just the latest in a long-list of break-ups at Terrigal.

Walmsley guaranteed youth and an attacking style of play that would put bums on seats. It was an ambitious and positive attitude but one that the Mariners were woefully under-equipped for. It was only a matter of time really.

Too many youngsters
As mentioned above the Mariners should be applauded for putting their faith in youth but don’t seem to know when to stop. Their Championship-winning team of 2012-13 contained an excellent crop of youngsters but mixed it with experienced campaigners such as Patrick Zwaanswijk, John Hutchinson and obviously Rose.

Last season’s squad simply had too much inexperience and the senior crop of Nick Montgomery, Fabio Ferreira and Luis Garcia had far too much to do. Finances obviously hold the Mariners back but success requires investment. Will the addition of cousins Faty and Taveres help ease the burden?

Competitiveness
Very much in tune with the squad’s makeup are the results. The Mariners simply didn’t have the ability to execute Walmsley’s high-tempo brand of football. Sure Roy O’Donovan and Fabio Ferraira both know how to finish but the ball needs to get forward somehow.

Again much will rest on Taveres and the combinations he forms with fellow midfielders Montgomery and Liam Rose.

Results on the field determine more than points however and Melbourne Knights coach Andrew Marth’s recent comments raise questions over the Mariners’ future. S

peaking in the wake of Central Coast’s elimination at the hands of NPL minnows Green Gully, Marth labelled the Mariners as an “embarrassment” and re-ignited the debate about promotion and relegation. Last season’s points haul of 13 simply wasn’t good enough for a side playing in the top division.

Marth added that “you would’ve looked at the Mariners and you wouldn’t know if they are an A-League team or an NPL team.” It was a big call but hardly inaccurate.

After enduring the pre-season from hell, Central Coast will do well to not collect a second-consecutive wooden spoon.

If the above issues can be addressed in the hiring of a strong coach, a more realistic game-plan and an experienced midfield signing, there’s no reason why the Mariners can’t once again punch above their weight.




 

midfielder

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http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/08/15/tim-cahill-exactly-league-needs/

Writer Mike Tuckerman, 15 Aug 2016

Central Coast Mariners’ sacking of coach Tony Walmsley was as predictable as it was pointless if owner Mike Charlesworth continues to pull the strings like a kid who has just taken Football Manager out of the box for the first time.

Charlesworth has already warned would-be applicants that the Mariners won’t be spending the entirety of the salary cap, but the real problem is that the Englishman appears to possess next-to-no knowledge of the local football landscape.

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This is the same bloke who last year said he’d never heard of Mark Rudan – maybe check the NSW Premier League table, Mike – and who originally told Walmsley he didn’t care about results so long as his team was entertaining.
 

dibo

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That's why I worry about coaches with no local knowledge too - who's going to bring them up to speed? Who's going to make sure that they're on top of some of the more... unique... elements of this competition (e.g. managing bodies through flying to Perth to play in 36 degree early kickoffs in January)?
 

shipwreck

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That's why I worry about coaches with no local knowledge too - who's going to bring them up to speed? Who's going to make sure that they're on top of some of the more... unique... elements of this competition (e.g. managing bodies through flying to Perth to play in 36 degree early kickoffs in January)?

I worry the same thing, I hope that Hutch, in his capacity as assistant has strong enough character (im sure he does), to stand up and mentor the manager through these unique elements of competing in the HAL.

The only advantage that a foreign coach gives us is the potential overseas talent portfoilio (negated heavily by the fact that we are already up to our O/S quota) and an aura of command presence to the youngsters who may assume an overseas CV = competence.

What we really don't want is another yes man, which is why getting these managers that are desperate to come back to the HAL kinda worries me...
 

Rowdy

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I worry the same thing, (foreign coaches with no local knowledege)
which is why getting these (local) managers that are desperate to come back to the HAL kinda worries me...

Worried about foreign coaches with no local knowledge & worried about former A-League Coaches with local knowledge

.........only leaves NPL coaches.

That worries me the most, because thats the level Walmsley hadn't even proved himself in before getting a gig in the HAL.
 

dibo

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I think the right NPL manager is fine. I think the right AL-experienced manager is fine. I think a foreign manager with a strong structure around him is fine (I don't think we have the structure here...).

The foreign managers who have been successful (Littbarski, Gombau, Amor, Lowe, Bleiberg) have had resources behind them. Some have failed even with significant resources (Butcher, Coolen, Van't Schip).

No foreign manager has succeeded with empty pockets, and I don't see anything at the Mariners that makes me think we'd break that rule.

Some locals *have* succeeded with (relatively) limited resources - McKinna, Van Egmond and Herbert have all done reasonably well with clubs that were financially tightly constrained. Herbert's a bit of a special case because he got half of the national team playing for him, and all three of them have also had years where they were frankly shithouse.

More than anything, I want a manager who can keep the wheels on. We can't afford to have the squad implode and results to go away from us. At worst, we should be 'honest triers' who at least belong at this level, give everyone a serious game and have the capacity to take results.
 

JoyfulPenguin

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Herbert in the frame for the Mariners
By Jayden Collins Aug 15 2016 10:53AM
Central Coast Mariners are in talks with Ricki Herbert about the struggling A-League side's coaching hot seat, according to Milan Miric, his sidekick with the Maldives national team.

With the recent sacking of Tony Walmsley, Milan confirms there is interest from both sides in bringing the former Wellington Phoenix boss to the Gosford side.

“Through his agent, they have got in touch for the current role for the Mariners,” Milan said.

“[Ricki’s] looking for the opportunity to get back in the A-League if possible. He knows the environment well and he’s coached Wellington there for six seasons so he’s operated on a minimal budget as well as playing three finals series.”

Milan has been an integral part of Ricki’s post A-League managerial career, where he has worked with him as part of the Papua New Guinea bronze medal campaign in the 2015 Pacific Games, before following him to the Maldives as his assistant.

In his brief stint with the Maldives team, Milan says Ricki had a massive impact in revitalising the national team.

“We’ve been there for almost a year and once we got there the team was really old,” he said.

“So he brought through eight young players and out of those eight that played World Cup Qualifiers, six were in the first XI.


“Now they are mature senior players after one year because they played the whole qualifying campaign.

“He got the job in the Maldives to help stabilise the team, which he has since done.”

Milan believes that the New Zealand native can bring the same revitalisation to the Mariners, who had a catastrophic year last season, with just three wins and 13 points.

The side has seen an exodus of talent too amid rumours of dressing room disharmony under Walmsley, and in the coach's last game, the Mariners were booted out of the FFA Cup by NPL side Green Gully.

“Ricki can bring stability to the Mariners and he’s keen to work with young players,” Milan said.

“If you look back to New Zealand, he took 14 players to the senior grade and out of 14, seven played in the in the World Cup. He’s good in developing players.


“In Wellington, he brought through Kosta Barbarouses and Marco Rojas, who has since moved to Stuttgart.”

Milan also believes that Herbert can bring faith back to the players and the club that the Mariners supporters were lacking last season.

“He’s the kind of guy that loves to engage with the community,” he said.

"If you look back to Wellington when he was the coach there, there was at times 20,00 supporters in the Westpac Stadium.


“He can bring results and bring back pride for the local supporters.”

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Tevor

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Herbert does seem like an Ok fit for CCM given our current situation, you could see the players lose interest last year as the season progressed with a small spike when Luis came on board. I always like to see a happy camp with players digging in week in and out irrespective of the results. Feel the new Manager will have a big player management role just getting their heads in better shape after the damage of last season and the continued bagging we cop from Fox Sports commentators which will not go away until we improve. How many of the current young guys see a long term future at CCM and will be the next Rosey and put in a good 6 years. Most are probably looking for a break at a SFC, Victory, MC or Adelaide like Austin who elected to move even though he received an auto contract extension. Herbert seems to be a Manager who can get the most out of players and I think that is what we need. A new Manager who ever they end up being will be a breath of fresh air this season and gives us all that glimmer of hope of not repeating last season.
 

midfielder

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Herbert is known for hhhmmmrrrrrr drab overly defensive style...... Herbert could be a great choice but don't count on the entertain style.
 

Forum Phoenix

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PAIN LIFTS IN MARINERS' WIN
By Staff Writer Aug 13 2016 7:31PM
The Central Coast Mariners have bounced back from a difficult week to record a morale-boosting 2-1 win over derby rivals Newcastle Jets in Tamworth on Saturday afternoon.


The Mariners came from a goal down to take the preseason friendly thanks to a brilliant strike from new signing Connor Pain.

It was an ideal response to Monday's sacking of coach Tony Walmsley after a disappointing reign at the Gosford outfit.

Despite trailing 1-0, the Mariners struck either side of the break to snatch a timely win.

The Jets took the lead through Devante Clut, with the new signing getting on the end of a precision cross and flicking it in from close range.

Newcastle's lead lasted just three minutes as a Mariners new boy found the net again.

Roy O'Donovan's shot that looked destined for goal but what followed was a goal-mouth scramble, with Blake Powell getting enough on the ball to poke it over the line.

Pain then struck what proved to be the winner five minutes after the break, a superb side-foot effort from just outside the box proving too much for Jets gloveman Jack Duncan to keep out.

The Jets pushed hard in the final moments with Andy Brennan almost snatching a draw with a headed chance but the Mariners held on for an important win for the squad’s morale.

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Newcastle Jets: Jack DUNCAN (GK), Nick COWBURN, Lachlan JACKSON (68’ Brennan), Daniel MULLEN, Jason HOFFMAN, Mateo POLJAK (c) (24’ Kantarovski), Steven UGARKOVIC, Andrew HOOLE, Andrew NABBOUT, Devante CLUT, Wayne BROWN

Central Coast Mariners: Paul IZZO (GK) (60’ Necevski), Ryan PETERSON, Nick MONTGOMERY (C), Jacques FATY (Ascroft 70’), Adam BERRY, Mickey NEILL, Jake McGING, Blake POWELL (60’ McDonald), Fabio FERREIRA (17’ Appiah), Roy O’DONOVAN, Connor PAIN

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