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localpom

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Shame. Hard to see him getting first team game time there. would be better served coming back to us on loan. :)
 

midfielder

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Based on the Dibbo graph maybe its time for Musty to come home.... or go to a smaller league ...

Remember yonks and yonks ago SBS had a great doco called "the away game " essentially it showed how hard it was on young players to leave their family and friends, go to Europe and be up against so much competition from all parts of the world.... we used to hear we have over 200 players in Europe but there was never any more than a couple of dozen at strong clubs... Me thinks it must be so hard to leave home and stay focused ....

IMO why Matty Ryan & Olly made the right move to smaller leagues with agreements in place before they signed they would be given first chance to be in the first team...

Of all the players we have had I have always tho Musty while technically the best was kinda to nice a bloke and wondered how he would go up against really harden people wanting to make the first team and allowing almost nothing will stand in their way...

Just on the right club selection... some time ago I was told we put Matty in contact or sort the advise of Paul Oken, Robbie Salter, & Frank Farina to help him choose a club...
 
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Lowlander

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No, I don't think Mustafa was ready, yes he had some technical skills but was unable to properly read his team mates positioning and ebb and flow of the game as a whole. As such he was unable to effectively execute any of his technical ability. Yes he had an insatiable drive to move forward towards goal, and in doing so he looked to have incredible technical ability, however the vast majority of his breakthrough moments on field would result in a waylaid pass to no-one and all his hard work would be undone. maybe it was a case of the rest of team not keeping up with his thinking but I don't really think that is the case.

Don't get me wrong though, he had a certain flair and without doubt he was a crowd puller with that funky red afro, how many people came to games wearing a red wig when he played for us? In my opinion he would have been far better off staying longer to hone his skills. I would welcome him back and cheer him on any day
 

Roy Law

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I have the book of The Away Game; one of the things that stands out is how lonely and tough it is. Arnie, typically, when he played in Europe tried to keep in touch with other players and act as a mentor to them. One of the Vidmars (can't remember which) was close to quitting but credits Arnie for helping him stick it out. Duke made the comment that nobody went out of their way to be friendly to him during his week at West Ham (not as a whinge but just an observation). I do think young Aussies should be in regular contact with each other - much easier these days - to help each other survive.
Ryan stands out as a player who always seizes the opportunity when it presents itself; Rogic has yet to do that at Celtic and Musti isn't even close. Jedi, though, remains the benchmark of what can be achieved if you have the strength of character to keep persevering.
 

style_cafe

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The book "The Away Game "has fond memories for me.
I had just finished reading it & attended a dinner with Football NSW where I was seated between Tony Labozzetta (Marconi) & Tony Raciti (Apia).
I took great joy in telling Mr Labozetta about the book I`d just read. His response was "I`ll get my lawyers to read it!".

Mathew Hall had a good laugh when I told him the story.....lol
 

style_cafe

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I have the book of The Away Game; one of the things that stands out is how lonely and tough it is. Arnie, typically, when he played in Europe tried to keep in touch with other players and act as a mentor to them. One of the Vidmars (can't remember which) was close to quitting but credits Arnie for helping him stick it out. Duke made the comment that nobody went out of their way to be friendly to him during his week at West Ham (not as a whinge but just an observation). I do think young Aussies should be in regular contact with each other - much easier these days - to help each other survive.
Ryan stands out as a player who always seizes the opportunity when it presents itself; Rogic has yet to do that at Celtic and Musti isn't even close. Jedi, though, remains the benchmark of what can be achieved if you have the strength of character to keep persevering.

That could be a very helpful learning unit for the COE- surviving the loneliness of being a professional footballer.
 

midfielder

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The book "The Away Game "has fond memories for me.
I had just finished reading it & attended a dinner with Football NSW where I was seated between Tony Labozzetta (Marconi) & Tony Raciti (Apia).
I took great joy in telling Mr Labozetta about the book I`d just read. His response was "I`ll get my lawyers to read it!".

Mathew Hall had a good laugh when I told him the story.....lol

Was a excellent doco and agree it should be required watching and reading at the COE...
 

dibo

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I'm surprised at this post:
No, I don't think Mustafa was ready, yes he had some technical skills but was unable to properly read his team mates positioning and ebb and flow of the game as a whole. As such he was unable to effectively execute any of his technical ability. Yes he had an insatiable drive to move forward towards goal, and in doing so he looked to have incredible technical ability, however the vast majority of his breakthrough moments on field would result in a waylaid pass to no-one and all his hard work would be undone. maybe it was a case of the rest of team not keeping up with his thinking but I don't really think that is the case.

Don't get me wrong though, he had a certain flair and without doubt he was a crowd puller with that funky red afro, how many people came to games wearing a red wig when he played for us? In my opinion he would have been far better off staying longer to hone his skills. I would welcome him back and cheer him on any day
Your certainly entitled to your view, but I strongly disagree.

To me, he's the most impressive player we've had in that position full stop. Better than Pondeljak, Perez or Rogic.

Why? Technical speed and speed of decision making, leading to speed of play. He didn't linger on the ball for long; he'd come to it, drop it at his feet and knock another pass on. He'd do it on both feet, he'd do it so fast that the defences would not have time to reshape to cover the hole he's just opened.

I loved watching him tearing sides apart and think he's got the goods to go all the way.
 

scottmac

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Sure his value has gone down but he is with one of the best European sides right now & is still a youngster. A move aw
I'm surprised at this post:

Your certainly entitled to your view, but I strongly disagree.

To me, he's the most impressive player we've had in that position full stop. Better than Pondeljak, Perez or Rogic.

Why? Technical speed and speed of decision making, leading to speed of play. He didn't linger on the ball for long; he'd come to it, drop it at his feet and knock another pass on. He'd do it on both feet, he'd do it so fast that the defences would not have time to reshape to cover the hole he's just opened.

I loved watching him tearing sides apart and think he's got the goods to go all the way.

I agree totally. We have not had a more impressive player in that spot. Others have been better at certain aspects but overall he played the 10 spot the best of them all.

Until this year.
 

finally retired

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I agree totally. We have not had a more impressive player in that spot. Others have been better at certain aspects but overall he played the 10 spot the best of them all.

Until this year.
I love your optimism for this year.......and I am every bit as optimistic :)
 

Lowlander

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I'm surprised at this post:

Your certainly entitled to your view, but I strongly disagree.

To me, he's the most impressive player we've had in that position full stop. Better than Pondeljak, Perez or Rogic.

Why? Technical speed and speed of decision making, leading to speed of play. He didn't linger on the ball for long; he'd come to it, drop it at his feet and knock another pass on. He'd do it on both feet, he'd do it so fast that the defences would not have time to reshape to cover the hole he's just opened.

I loved watching him tearing sides apart and think he's got the goods to go all the way.

Fair call,

so do you think it was a case of the rest of team not keeping up with his decision making on the pitch? I just remember far too many balls ending up in no-mans land
 

bikinigirl

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Fair call,

so do you think it was a case of the rest of team not keeping up with his decision making on the pitch? I just remember far too many balls ending up in no-mans land

. i think so. we watch the game from an elevated position and can see how the play should be unfolding and were often left wondering 'why didn't they make that run' ... but that's just the way i remember it
 

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