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midfielder said:My final reason and I will use a CC example to explain this.. Many moons ago I played half back in RL and was not half (no pun) bad. In fact played for Guildford one level off the ARL and often trained with Parrmatta.. We that is Guildford played the Entrance in a preseason trail match and went back to the CC{leagues}C and was warmly welcomed and had a good night after the match.. Three years latter I was playing for North Rocks in football and we played a team at the Entrance again went to the CC{leagues}C and we where told that the club was not a place for soccAAR folk..
neverwozza said:midfielder said:My final reason and I will use a CC example to explain this.. Many moons ago I played half back in RL and was not half (no pun) bad. In fact played for Guildford one level off the ARL and often trained with Parrmatta.. We that is Guildford played the Entrance in a preseason trail match and went back to the CC{leagues}C and was warmly welcomed and had a good night after the match.. Three years latter I was playing for North Rocks in football and we played a team at the Entrance again went to the CC{leagues}C and we where told that the club was not a place for soccAAR folk..
Hoot hoot for the owls. You haven't been to a RL match unless you've been to McCredie Oval and heard the hooting from the crowd after an important Guildford try. Its very inspirational.
Jings MF.........have you been on that bottle again this afternoon ?midfielder said:Dibbo
Where to start ..RRRR yes the ..e my bad will drop the ..e..
Why Obi Wan, remember you asked, so dont blame if it this is a tad long.
I took the liberty of looking up your age and you are under 30, this may explain some things but not all.. However ......
Star Wars the movie was a land mark movie and used along with a number of other things almost a spiritual theme. The force i.e. the goodies and the dark side i.e. evil controlled by the evil emperor i.e. the devil almost..
The Jedi were the good using the force and continuing the spiritual theme the good angles, they processed powers to collect all the good things around them and use them for good and to fight the ... Dark Side. The Dark side also had access to these powers but choose to use them for evil, i.e. fallen angles..
This was magic stuff at the time you where still a through when all this was happening BTW..
Over the years as a football person I had many disappointments many brought by the miss management of the NSL administration..... But the AFL in particular and the RL media delighted in sticking the boot in every time they could.
Also my observation is the AFL has been on a code war footing for 100 years. RL far less so but equally always after the best grounds etc and always pushing themselves forward. RU a club for the wealthy where they excluded all but and a but especially football.
Now the first Star War moves Obi Wan a old and powerful and surviving Jedi, took it upon himself to once again try to raise the Jedi back to their previous status..
Now the AFL in many ways control the .. Axis of EVIL... 3AW, Herald Sun, CH 7, ... champagne corks being popped when we fail to make the World Cup. RL to a lessor extent CH9, Terror, 2UE/2GB, their own Axis of Evil.
Who could take on such powerful foes and who could win... Not only win but bring the media with him..
In addition a person who could think and look a long way into the future.. The WC bid is clever at many levels not the least is having the anti football media not being able to attack football in these early stages as that is against the national interest.. Even if he looses he wins because of the positive media.. The move in Asia the business and government support just unbelievable to someone of my age...
My final reason and I will use a CC example to explain this.. Many moons ago I played half back in RL and was not half (no pun) bad. In fact played for Guildford one level off the ARL and often trained with Parrmatta.. We that is Guildford played the Entrance in a preseason trail match and went back to the CC{leagues}C and was warmly welcomed and had a good night after the match.. Three years latter I was playing for North Rocks in football and we played a team at the Entrance again went to the CC{leagues}C and we where told that the club was not a place for soccAAR folk..
My view is that the AFL in particular and the NRL a to a lesser,- also RU are the Dark Side doing all they can to keep football in its place.
Now Frank Lowy has changed so much and no other Australia I believe could have done what he has done.. So I have called him Obi Wan reflecting an image of a wise old man, very powerful, with many friends not afraid to takes on very much more powerful forces and in fact have them scared of him..
You may not agree with me but at least you know why I call him Obi Wan ... in my world a tag for someone who needs a lot of respect.
Arabmariner said:I thought you couldn't have more than two stadiums in the same city ?
midfielder said:The other five to make up the twelve come from a number of choices..
QLD
North Queensland
Gold Coast the new stadium upgraded
Vic
Swan Street Up graded
SA
Adeliade Oval
WA
Not sure where yet
NSW
Wollongong
This is 6 stadiums to choose from to make up the other five needed all of which have to be built or have massive upgrades...
pjennings said:midfielder said:The other five to make up the twelve come from a number of choices..
QLD
North Queensland
Gold Coast the new stadium upgraded
Vic
Swan Street Up graded
SA
Adeliade Oval
WA
Not sure where yet
NSW
Wollongong
This is 6 stadiums to choose from to make up the other five needed all of which have to be built or have massive upgrades...
I agree with the 7 you have picked so far. Of the remaining six I think we will see
Swan St Upgrade - Storm, Victory and Heart as tenants justifies the upgrade
Adelaide - flatpack - population of 1.3 million surely not overkill
Perth - flatpack - population of 1.6 million
That gives ten.
The last two are problematic - and may not be chosen or built as FIFA may only choose 10.
Gold Coast - probably the most likely - population of 514,000, two tenants Titans and GCU
Townsville - possible upgrade to Dairy Farmers - dual use with RL
Wollongong - no - no team in a national comp except occasion St Georg games. WIN cannot be extended to 45,000.
midfielder said:Pjennings
Excellence post above good pick up..
SBS interview with Obi Wan Part 1... his comments about stadiums indicate the AFL will get SA / WA / & QLD stadiums ... if the bid is successful...
http://player.sbs.com.au/theworldgame#/twg_08/AussieFocus/AussieFocus/playlist/FOOTBALL-FOCUS-Lowy-exclusive-pt1/
Part II
http://player.sbs.com.au/theworldgame#/twg_08/AussieFocus/AussieFocus/playlist/FOOTBALL-FOCUS-Lowy-exclusive-pt2/
http://www.theworldgame.com.au/2018-world-cup/australia-forges-ahead-287812
Australia forges ahead
The success of Australia's strategy to lure precious World Cup bid votes from Africa remains unknown after Football Federation Australia chief executive Ben Buckley returned from a lightning visit to Angola a week ago.
Buckley's trip highlighted the often thankless but complex political roadmap Australia has to navigate if its World Cup bid is to be successful later this year.
Workaholic Buckley travelled half-way around the world to spend less than 48 hours in the Angola capital, meeting African members of FIFA's executive committee in order to garner vital support for Australia's bid to host the 2018 or 2022 World Cup.
Buckley made the trip to Angola even though rival bid nation Qatar purchased sole lobbying rights for the Confederation of African Football Congress held in Luanda on January 29, an important networking event.
"The small Australian presence in Luanda, however brief, was noted as was the absence of representatives from Japan and Indonesia," sources in Angola revealed.
"But it should not be forgotten that Africa, too, votes on where a World Cup will be held in the future."
Representatives from England, Netherlands-Belgium, Russia and Spain-Portugal joined Buckley and the Qataris at the CAF congress.
Russia had perhaps the most high-profile presence of bidders, with a team of advisers headed by former FIFA communications boss Markus Siegler and long-time ex-FIFA executive committee member Viacheslav Koloskov.
Underlining the close-knit network with roles in deciding future World Cup hosts, Siegler had previously worked with Peter Hargitay, who is now advising Australia's bid.
Australia's bid has so far rated well in terms of government and public support and legacy, according to a report by World Football Insider, a website specialising in football industry analysis.
But according to the report, Australia still lacks influence in relations with FIFA.
An FFA spokesperson told The World Game the governing body would not comment on the World Football Insider rankings and that Buckley "crammed in a series of meetings on that trip before and after he arrived in Angola.
"It was not just a trip to Luanda and back."