All time Mariners greats

[nikko]

Jamie McMaster and Paul O'Grady

 

[Nik Mrdjas Disco Bikkie]

Jamie McMaster and Paul O'Grady

I raise you Alvin Ceccoli

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Sorry to be a wet blanket/prick Serious...  I love this idea...
But for me it depends if we're really talking as you said "all time greats"
Being - the list of players and people that will be looked back on in fifty years time as our greats... as opposed to a collection of the fans favourites and some of our best players of the last five years who deserve an honourable mention.

If it's "Greats"

Then sorry, but for mine no one has earnt that title yet apart from Lawrie.

Lawrie deserves his cult status as our first Mariner great - as the establishing coach who was so instrumental in getting the club up and then on top of this his achievements with the team and now ongoing work for the club...

But I think when you place any of peoples afore mentioned players/assistant coaches - while though yes - praise worthy candidates - but against Lawrie's contribution....? They're not really in the same league are they?? And for me it actually lessens the idea of what at least for mine, a greats list should be.
Which is why it usually takes many years for such a thing to exist aided by the considerable power of hindsight.

So there's no other all time greats quite as yet for me.

Though if everyone can, unlikely as it is, contain their mockery - Wilko and Hutch, if they prove to be good enough to retain their spots and put in a few more years of devoted service within which we also win the toilet seat... Yes perhaps.

Danny, same, after a few more stellar seasons.... yes Perhaps.

Clarkey, after another 10 years of being fitness coach or some such after his onfield contributions... Yes perhaps...

Bernie, after 4 straight seasons of being in the leagues top three goals scorers and helping us win the league twice - before finally signing a record A league transfer OS...

Definitely.

You see where I'm going I'm sure... for me, I feel I would need to reserve such a title as "All time Great" for those who carve out something "very special" upon the park over a minimum of three season at the least... preferably longer... and preferably at least once in a winning season... and or put in above and beyond contributions - be it through very long service or off the park contributions.

For what its worth though...

I believe Mile is the best player we have ever had, followed by Beauchamp...
But also that most of our foundation players over the last five years deserve honourable mentions - including Tommy P and yes even Gumps
Though his pot shots at Lawrie and the club the other day has come very close to me permanently altering this opinion.

But all that said... Excellent thread... Very nice... Good fun... etc...

Keep up the good work...

:ashamed:

I'll be going now...

 

[marinermick]

Jamie McMaster and Paul O'Grady

leave stringers alone

a good bloke who always had time for you, gave his heart and soul for the club and actually played some good games

 

[Deej]

There is no doubt in my mind that Jedi is the best player we've seen in the yellow and blue.

Vidmar has definitely achieved the most but I can't choose him because a player of his quality shouldn't have made such a stupid mistake in a GF.  That said he taught players around him a few things!

Tommy is the best attacking midfielder we've probably had but he did go wandering in games and when he was quiet you could tell he just wasn't up for it!

 

[goingtoadisco]

Vidmar has definitely achieved the most but I can't choose him because a player of his quality shouldn't have made such a stupid mistake in a GF.  That said he taught players around him a few things!

Harsh !

 

[Jimmy]

Vidmar has definitely achieved the most but I can't choose him because a player of his quality shouldn't have made such a stupid mistake in a GF.  That said he taught players around him a few things!

Harsh !

But fair.

 

[pjennings]

Vidmar has definitely achieved the most but I can't choose him because a player of his quality shouldn't have made such a stupid mistake in a GF.  That said he taught players around him a few things!

Harsh !

But fair.

Harsh - but not totally fair.

TBH - he slipped - Wilko let Bridge make 25-30m without slowing him down, Danny, while set up correctly at the beginning, did not adjust as Bridge went across the goal.

Vidmar was responsible for the chance being there - Wilko and Danny both could have and should have done better to recover. If Wilko had even slowed him down marginally then Vidmar would have been back. 

 

[Deej]

Vidmar has definitely achieved the most but I can't choose him because a player of his quality shouldn't have made such a stupid mistake in a GF.  That said he taught players around him a few things!

Harsh !

But fair.

Harsh - but not totally fair.

TBH - he slipped - Wilko let Bridge make 25-30m without slowing him down, Danny, while set up correctly at the beginning, did not adjust as Bridge went across the goal.

Vidmar was responsible for the chance being there - Wilko and Danny both could have and should have done better to recover. If Wilko had even slowed him down marginally then Vidmar would have been back. 

IMO a player of his experience should have done better

 

[Jimmy]

Vidmar has definitely achieved the most but I can't choose him because a player of his quality shouldn't have made such a stupid mistake in a GF.  That said he taught players around him a few things!

Harsh !

But fair.

Harsh - but not totally fair.

TBH - he slipped - Wilko let Bridge make 25-30m without slowing him down, Danny, while set up correctly at the beginning, did not adjust as Bridge went across the goal.

Vidmar was responsible for the chance being there - Wilko and Danny both could have and should have done better to recover. If Wilko had even slowed him down marginally then Vidmar would have been back. 

IMO a player of his experience should have done better

+1

He shouldn't of even tried that turn. He didn't slip, he just let the ball go to far from him and bridge capitalised.

I will agree with you on Wilko tho, should of done better, he didn't aim straight for Bridge but instead decided to cut him off, which Bridge easily just side stepped.

It hurts to watch this. 1:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNYLWew_juA

 

[marinerfromthegong]

Vidmar has definitely achieved the most but I can't choose him because a player of his quality shouldn't have made such a stupid mistake in a GF.  That said he taught players around him a few things!

Harsh !

But fair.

Harsh - but not totally fair.

TBH - he slipped - Wilko let Bridge make 25-30m without slowing him down, Danny, while set up correctly at the beginning, did not adjust as Bridge went across the goal.

Vidmar was responsible for the chance being there - Wilko and Danny both could have and should have done better to recover. If Wilko had even slowed him down marginally then Vidmar would have been back. 

IMO a player of his experience should have done better

Agree with that. Was sitting right in front of him when he slipped and I knew at that moment that Bridge was going to go on and score.

Not much else the others could have done- they were in no position to defend and once Bridge had the ball at his feet there was only going to be one result.

 

[BrisRecky]

hmmmm....

Tommy P
Vidmar
Beauchamp
Gumps
Wayne Sullivan

 

[Deej]

hmmmm....

Tommy P
Vidmar
Beauchamp
Gumps
Wayne Sullivan

How the f**k can you have Sully in your list and not Jedi? WTF?

And after seeing that video again......IMO it's obvious to see that Vidmar f**ked up, and given his experience should not have given the ball away that easily.....mistakes happen thou.....c**t of a time to make 1

 

[FFC Mariner]

Sully? WTF?

his crossing alone deserves a stoning

 

[pjennings]

hmmmm....

Tommy P
Vidmar
Beauchamp
Gumps
Wayne Sullivan

How the f**k can you have Sully in your list and not Jedi? WTF?

And after seeing that video again......IMO it's obvious to see that Vidmar f**ked up, and given his experience should not have given the ball away that easily.....mistakes happen thou.....c**t of a time to make 1

Yep - agreed

 

[Blair]

Keeper:  Vuko
Defender: Vidmar
Midfielder: tommy P
Striker: Simon

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Bloody hell... hated watching that again.

Aloisi should have put us one up off his head, and Vidam is 100% to blame.
Wilko committed to his run, moving towards where he thought would cut Bridge off instead of getting tighter and then responding to the player... Shows just how much Wilko has improved - but regardless he should NEVER have been in this position. Fact is Vidmar cost us the game.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Before Shields then cost us it again of course...

 

[warlord]

simon? haha your having a laugh

 

[MARSHP1]

Beauchamp, Tommy P, Jedi. I think out of all the players we have had those are three that have affected us most when they left. Beauchamp was a rock in season 1, the best defender in the comp by far. Tommy P has been our most creative player, Jedi our most influential. Danny,Wilco,Vidmar,Sasho honourable mentions.