-
Join ccmfans.net
ccmfans.net is the Central Coast Mariners fan community, and was formed in 2004, so basically the beginning of time for the Mariners. Things have changed a lot over the years, but one thing has remained constant and that is our love of the Mariners. People come and go, some like to post a lot and others just like to read. It's up to you how you participate in the community!
If you want to get rid of this message, simply click on Join Now or head over to https://www.ccmfans.net/community/register/ to join the community! It only takes a few minutes, and joining will let you post your thoughts and opinions on all things Mariners, Football, and whatever else pops into your mind. If posting is not your thing, you can interact in other ways, including voting on polls, and unlock options only available to community members.
ccmfans.net is not only for Mariners fans either. Most of us are bonded by our support for the Mariners, but if you are a fan of another club (except the Scum, come on, we need some standards), feel free to join and get into some banter.
A-League Transfers and Rumours
- Thread starter Andy
- Start date
mariners4ever
Well-Known Member
stuart musialik
marinersman
Well-Known Member
Monkey boy, from all I hear will definitely be a tard next season.
A.Elrich Official
Mariners sign winger Elrich
March 10, 2008
A-LEAGUE championship runners-up Central Coast have announced the signing of former Australia winger Ahmad Elrich for two seasons.
Elrich, who made just nine appearances in two seasons for Fulham in England's Premier League, joined the Mariners from A-League rivals, Wellington.
The 26-year-old made 13 appearances last season for the Phoenix after his mid-season arrival from Fulham.
It's the second signing for the Mariners in their off-season recruitment campaign after they earlier acquired Melbourne Victory winger Adrian Caceres.
Those acquisitions offset the departure of marquee striker John Aloisi to Sydney FC and midfielder Tom Pondeljak to the Victory.
While he has not featured for the Socceroos since September 2006, Elrich has scored five international goals including a memorable match-winner against Iraq at Sydney's ANZ Stadium in March 2005 since his February 2004 debut against Venezuela.
A season-ending knee injury suffered with the Socceroos in Kuwait for their AFC Asian Cup qualifier in September, 2006, prevented him contending for a berth in last year's Asian Cup campaign.
"Our signing of Ahmad is another clear showing of our intent for season four,'' said Mariners executive chairman Lyall Gorman.
"While we're of course delighted with the on-field progress we made in season three, we want to go one step further in 2008-2009 and by introducing a player and a person of Ahmad's quality to our line-up, we are giving ourselves the best possible chance.
"We know as good as any club just how good Ahmad can be - we were on the receiving end of an absolutely stunning strike of his while in Wellington last year and we're hopeful and confident that he will be able to reproduce and surpass that level of quality in a yellow and navy shirt.''
I hate how they say "championship runners-up", what about premiers?!?!
Mariners sign winger Elrich
March 10, 2008
A-LEAGUE championship runners-up Central Coast have announced the signing of former Australia winger Ahmad Elrich for two seasons.
Elrich, who made just nine appearances in two seasons for Fulham in England's Premier League, joined the Mariners from A-League rivals, Wellington.
The 26-year-old made 13 appearances last season for the Phoenix after his mid-season arrival from Fulham.
It's the second signing for the Mariners in their off-season recruitment campaign after they earlier acquired Melbourne Victory winger Adrian Caceres.
Those acquisitions offset the departure of marquee striker John Aloisi to Sydney FC and midfielder Tom Pondeljak to the Victory.
While he has not featured for the Socceroos since September 2006, Elrich has scored five international goals including a memorable match-winner against Iraq at Sydney's ANZ Stadium in March 2005 since his February 2004 debut against Venezuela.
A season-ending knee injury suffered with the Socceroos in Kuwait for their AFC Asian Cup qualifier in September, 2006, prevented him contending for a berth in last year's Asian Cup campaign.
"Our signing of Ahmad is another clear showing of our intent for season four,'' said Mariners executive chairman Lyall Gorman.
"While we're of course delighted with the on-field progress we made in season three, we want to go one step further in 2008-2009 and by introducing a player and a person of Ahmad's quality to our line-up, we are giving ourselves the best possible chance.
"We know as good as any club just how good Ahmad can be - we were on the receiving end of an absolutely stunning strike of his while in Wellington last year and we're hopeful and confident that he will be able to reproduce and surpass that level of quality in a yellow and navy shirt.''
I hate how they say "championship runners-up", what about premiers?!?!
bathurstmariner
Well-Known Member
Andy said:
442 Rumour Mill
Yorke will be at Mariners as player coach. Elrich deal close. [RUMOUR]
Mar 8 2008 10:45
ENIGMATIC Dwight Yorke has indicated he would like to finish his playing days in Australia and he may well find a new home at the Central Coast Mariners. Mariners are offering a player/coach role in the region of 300k-400k for a year, then if he holds up another year after that. Yorke keen to coach will be perfect for the new youth coach role available.
In other Mariners transfer news Ahmad Elrich is set to join.
This article has been provided by:
Lyall of Gosford
FourFourTwo Belief Factor: 8/10 - We can see both of those potentially happening.
Obviously one half of this is true with Elrich signing.
Also from 442 Rumour Mill:
Skoko Eyeing A-League Return [RUMOUR]
Mar 8 2008 10:46
Former Socceroo midfielder Josip Skoko may be returning to the A-League as soon as this season. With Wigan facing relegation and Skoko not playing regular first team football, he may be tempted to return to Australia sooner rather than later. The Central Coast Mariners appear favourites to sign him, with a marquee spot available. His homestate of South Australia is another possibilty, but he would unlikely fit under the salary cap.
This article has been provided by:
Rowan of NSW
FourFourTwo Belief Factor: 9/10 - He should be on his way to the A-League, but we're not so sure it will be to the Mariners.
marinersman
Well-Known Member
Good opinion piece from Les Murray regarding the flying choppers.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/sydneys-plunge-into-a-dark-past-107958/
Sydney's plunge into a dark past
By Les Murray | 10 March 2008 | 10:10
Around a year ago, soon after the sacking of Terry Butcher, I filed a column for this space in an attempt to explain why Sydney FC was a managerial basket case and had been since its inception.
In it I called for a revolution, a re-think of what makes a truly great and class club, as opposed to what Sydney had been, a blinkered, pedestrian outfit driven only by results, as if the habit of winning, no matter what ugly way it was achieved, was the only building block of greatness.
What has changed?
Not that much, to be blunt.
The recent signing of Mark Bridge, Simon Colosimo and John Aloisi suggests Sydney may have rediscovered its birthright to be ambitious and is again investing in quality and glamour.
And it's true, Bridge is one of the league's most exciting young strikers, Colosimo is a thoroughly versatile and highly experienced player, and Aloisi - well, we all know how marketable he has become since 'that' penalty and his memorable World Cup goal against Japan.
But one has to ask, which of these three players will transform Sydney's brand of football into one of ritzy entertainment, elegance and class?
Juninho is gone, along with the deft dribble, the delicate through-pass, the bent free kicks, and the magnetism of a World Cup winner. He has been replaced by John Aloisi, a powerful, muscular finisher whose career high point, with respect, was Osasuna.
In any case who, in the absence of Juninho and the diminishing stamina of Corica, will supply the ball for Aloisi's finishing, God only knows.
If this plunge by Sydney into the player market gives you hidden reminders of a mini-Galacticos policy by a mini-Real Madrid, perish the thought.
Madrid's extravagant shopping spree under that policy brought it Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo and Beckham, all players of great entertainment value, class and enduring magnetism. Moreover they were perfect fits for madridismo, Reals age old tradition of needing to win with chic and class.
This is not what is driving Sydney FC and never has.
Sydney, self-dubbed as the 'glamour' team of the A-League even before it was launched, should have long ago sent emissaries, if not to Madrid, to some of the model clubs of Europe and elsewhere, even Japan, to study what makes a truly great club.
Instead they have gone back to the influence of a different model: Sydney City of the early 1980s.
I have news for them. That won't help make Sydney FC a great club.
At the top end of Sydney FC's managerial and coaching tree is a clear infatuation with the old Sydney City which won three NSL titles in its golden era.
Part of the secret of that success was in Sydney City's policy and ability to simply sign up the NSL's finest young playing talent from wherever it saw them. The policy was driven by the late Andrew Lederer, the multi-millionaire smallgoods king, who could spot a good player of serious potential when he saw him.
Lederer brought to Sydney the cream of the era's Australian football talent: John Kosmina, Ken Boden, David Mitchell, Frank Farina, Jimmy Cant and Jean-Paul de Marigny.
It was this, plus the wily coaching gifts of a young Eddie Thomson, that brought Sydney City its results and its titles.
But Sydney FC's nostalgic policy makers of today forget one small thing: the 1980s vintage Sydney City was pilloried for a distinctly unattractive brand of football, the ugliness of which left it with barely a few hundred regular fans, despite the trophies.
The home leg of its two-legged NSL grand final of 1985, against Brunswick, with Kosmina, Farina and Mitchell all on view, was attended by 2,491 people. Shortly after Frank Lowy, then president of the team's financial backer, the Hakoah Club, shut down the football operation because of its drain on the bottom line.
In an interview with Lowy at the time, I asked him, wasn't it the Hakoah Club's original remit and raison d'etre to run a football team?
He said, 'Oh yes, a football team. But for whom?'
It is this policy with which Sydney FC is now toying.
They are signing 'name' players, for which alone they should not be criticised. That is one of the things so-called glamour clubs do.
But they are doing it without an eye on empirical entertainment value and lateral planning.
They have a coach, in John Kosmina, another Sydney City throwback, who gets results and has a brilliant gift for getting blood sacrifice out of his players, but who never talks about winning with glory and style, only about winning.
They sign players of profile and talent but how exactly those players fit into a grander package, a broad box-office blueprint, is not considered. If it works, and I doubt it, it will be by pure accident.
Sydney FC doesn't entertain and never has. It just fights.
What Sydney FC's numerous, but tyrannically fickle and demanding fans want is not just big names, or even results. They are too proud for that. They want to roll up to the SFS knowing their team is the elite of the elite, and that it doesn't just chase results but plays with the kind of poise and swagger that is the model for the rest.
Aping the battling and bruising Sydney City of 1983 will not achieve any of that and is a waste of time and money.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/sydneys-plunge-into-a-dark-past-107958/
Sydney's plunge into a dark past
By Les Murray | 10 March 2008 | 10:10
Around a year ago, soon after the sacking of Terry Butcher, I filed a column for this space in an attempt to explain why Sydney FC was a managerial basket case and had been since its inception.
In it I called for a revolution, a re-think of what makes a truly great and class club, as opposed to what Sydney had been, a blinkered, pedestrian outfit driven only by results, as if the habit of winning, no matter what ugly way it was achieved, was the only building block of greatness.
What has changed?
Not that much, to be blunt.
The recent signing of Mark Bridge, Simon Colosimo and John Aloisi suggests Sydney may have rediscovered its birthright to be ambitious and is again investing in quality and glamour.
And it's true, Bridge is one of the league's most exciting young strikers, Colosimo is a thoroughly versatile and highly experienced player, and Aloisi - well, we all know how marketable he has become since 'that' penalty and his memorable World Cup goal against Japan.
But one has to ask, which of these three players will transform Sydney's brand of football into one of ritzy entertainment, elegance and class?
Juninho is gone, along with the deft dribble, the delicate through-pass, the bent free kicks, and the magnetism of a World Cup winner. He has been replaced by John Aloisi, a powerful, muscular finisher whose career high point, with respect, was Osasuna.
In any case who, in the absence of Juninho and the diminishing stamina of Corica, will supply the ball for Aloisi's finishing, God only knows.
If this plunge by Sydney into the player market gives you hidden reminders of a mini-Galacticos policy by a mini-Real Madrid, perish the thought.
Madrid's extravagant shopping spree under that policy brought it Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo and Beckham, all players of great entertainment value, class and enduring magnetism. Moreover they were perfect fits for madridismo, Reals age old tradition of needing to win with chic and class.
This is not what is driving Sydney FC and never has.
Sydney, self-dubbed as the 'glamour' team of the A-League even before it was launched, should have long ago sent emissaries, if not to Madrid, to some of the model clubs of Europe and elsewhere, even Japan, to study what makes a truly great club.
Instead they have gone back to the influence of a different model: Sydney City of the early 1980s.
I have news for them. That won't help make Sydney FC a great club.
At the top end of Sydney FC's managerial and coaching tree is a clear infatuation with the old Sydney City which won three NSL titles in its golden era.
Part of the secret of that success was in Sydney City's policy and ability to simply sign up the NSL's finest young playing talent from wherever it saw them. The policy was driven by the late Andrew Lederer, the multi-millionaire smallgoods king, who could spot a good player of serious potential when he saw him.
Lederer brought to Sydney the cream of the era's Australian football talent: John Kosmina, Ken Boden, David Mitchell, Frank Farina, Jimmy Cant and Jean-Paul de Marigny.
It was this, plus the wily coaching gifts of a young Eddie Thomson, that brought Sydney City its results and its titles.
But Sydney FC's nostalgic policy makers of today forget one small thing: the 1980s vintage Sydney City was pilloried for a distinctly unattractive brand of football, the ugliness of which left it with barely a few hundred regular fans, despite the trophies.
The home leg of its two-legged NSL grand final of 1985, against Brunswick, with Kosmina, Farina and Mitchell all on view, was attended by 2,491 people. Shortly after Frank Lowy, then president of the team's financial backer, the Hakoah Club, shut down the football operation because of its drain on the bottom line.
In an interview with Lowy at the time, I asked him, wasn't it the Hakoah Club's original remit and raison d'etre to run a football team?
He said, 'Oh yes, a football team. But for whom?'
It is this policy with which Sydney FC is now toying.
They are signing 'name' players, for which alone they should not be criticised. That is one of the things so-called glamour clubs do.
But they are doing it without an eye on empirical entertainment value and lateral planning.
They have a coach, in John Kosmina, another Sydney City throwback, who gets results and has a brilliant gift for getting blood sacrifice out of his players, but who never talks about winning with glory and style, only about winning.
They sign players of profile and talent but how exactly those players fit into a grander package, a broad box-office blueprint, is not considered. If it works, and I doubt it, it will be by pure accident.
Sydney FC doesn't entertain and never has. It just fights.
What Sydney FC's numerous, but tyrannically fickle and demanding fans want is not just big names, or even results. They are too proud for that. They want to roll up to the SFS knowing their team is the elite of the elite, and that it doesn't just chase results but plays with the kind of poise and swagger that is the model for the rest.
Aping the battling and bruising Sydney City of 1983 will not achieve any of that and is a waste of time and money.
marinersman
Well-Known Member
Foster has always been very critical of Sydney and the style they play.
He's been even more vocal about them than us.
He's been even more vocal about them than us.
Online statistics
- Members online
- 3
- Guests online
- 226
- Total visitors
- 229
