2021/22 season

[Tevor]

Dont think the AL are really interested in fans - not their thing

You do wonder what they are thinking.

I watched most of the post game talk after last nights defeat to Japan and the APL was mentioned a few times. Harper was explaining that we need a better national comp with more teams and give young kids more playing time, perhaps that is why he has been nice to us this year as we are giving and discovering some good young talent. Not many other clubs are this season.

The APL bending over backwards (crooked officiating, scheduling etc) to get the big clubs in the finals to help with viewer numbers etc is doing nothing for the National team. I don't think the creation of the APL to manage the A Leagues was a great idea for football as a whole in this country. All they care about is where the next wad of cash comes from. Look at MC, all he wants is high profile players from overseas. The APL is made up of the owners of the clubs and look at what our owner thinks is important. CFG don't care about how the Socceroos perform. I truly fear for the future of the game.

 

[turbo]

I don't think the creation of the APL to manage the A Leagues was a great idea for football as a whole in this country. All they care about is where the next wad of cash comes from. Look at MC, all he wants is high profile players from overseas. The APL is made up of the owners of the clubs and look at what our owner thinks is important. CFG don't care about how the Socceroos perform. I truly fear for the future of the game.

What's your alternative? Leave it with FA who showed they couldn't run the comp or make it sustainable for owners actually fronting the cash?

Most of the development harm was done long ago under FA with things like the youth league. Now we have academies playing in the NPL at various levels and we are seeing talent trickling through in various teams but that talent is still pretty young. Could be another 5 or so years before the pathway is really shining again at a senior level. Also plenty of room for reform at a state / NPL level where costs are still a huge barrier to progression.

CFG don't care about how the Socceroos perform.

CFG have their share of young talent. Have taken Tillio, Atkinson among others to another level. Arzani would be there too if he hadnt got ruined by injury and had a crap time since. It's mutually beneficial for players like Tillio or Atkinson to get on big stages and attract interest. If you're talking about the Curtis Good thing then put that administrative stuff up on Arnold and FA where it belongs. If they name 50 players and dont include a range of available CBs that's on them. Not like he would have played anyway - if they expected him to play they would have named him early.

The national team needs a strong A league. A strong A league needs to be a sustainable one and in our sporting landscape that means developing and selling players abroad.

 

[midfielder]

The old saying two wrongs never make a right...

Lowy was past his time and had to go...

However the clubs without very specific guidelines should never have been put in charge...

It started with AU & the Nix quickly joined by ourselves and then spread but the entire Football community put crap on the AL for maybe 4 years and that old C Lowy would not walk away...

What's left is almost no media coverage, crap put on the league for years by Football people...

APL talk a big talk a big game but by heavens they have not delivered what they promised...

APL for their own sake need to expand but if crowds and ratings don't pick up next year me thinks Football is in trouble...

Add the bias towards bigger clubs is hurting the league

 

[turbo]

APL talk a big talk a big game but by heavens they have not delivered what they promised...

APL for their own sake need to expand but if crowds and ratings don't pick up next year me thinks Football is in trouble...

In their defense they've had the absolute worst time to take over operations. Anything they do gets wrecked by covid. Need a swift bounce back for next season though and Paramount needs to lift their game massively for the sake of the league.

 

[midfielder]

In their defense they've had the absolute worst time to take over operations. Anything they do gets wrecked by covid. Need a swift bounce back for next season though and Paramount needs to lift their game massively for the sake of the league.

Not sure if I am right but I get the feeling that both APL & Paramount have given up on this season and keeping reserves aside for next year... the terrible form of both senior nation teams is also hurting the league...

 

[turbo]

Not sure if I am right but I get the feeling that both APL & Paramount have given up on this season and keeping reserves aside for next year... the terrible form of both senior nation teams is also hurting the league...

I'm not so sure about Paramount, they are slowly bringing things in and I doubt they are holding back features to start next season with a bang. More likely limited resources, infrastructure changes and processes to go through. It would be massively beneficial to have start over, pause, rewind etc working before the end of the season to quell renewal doubts.

I could see that yeah APL are likely looking at this as a bit of a write off. Such a disrupted schedule, midweek games, covid flaring up again. It's a mess. Might see some build up and advertising for finals but otherwise what's the point going hard now when they're up against all those other factors plus footy and afl being back. Got to play the long game here.

 

[adz]

One thing the FFA did was release a road map or some sort of plan every now and then. Sure, it looked like some kid knocked it up for a school project at the last minute, and contained approx f**k all information, but it was something. We don't even have anything like that from this new league.

 

[iggythump]

Sad news. Thoughts are with Ruon and his family.

 

[Ads]

As mentioned in Newcastle thread if Scum opted not to play tonight would be a null result.

And they have confirmed any match from tonight on will also be no result if deciding not to play due to high covid numbers.

So teams down the bottom don’t have much choice cause they are better off with trying to snatch 1 point rather than none.

I hope we make a concerted effort to keep the boys seperated as much as possible.

And even those that live together try and make it 1 forward, 1 middle & 1 back so we are not depleted in a particular area. Haha.

 

[midfielder]

Gotta give TB a bit of a wrap...

Last season he said all last season that Gianni STENSNESS was something special...

Last night, Andy Harper said that Staj rated him as the new Jedi....

Most on the forum never picked how good he was...

 

[Tevor]

I'm not so sure about Paramount, they are slowly bringing things in and I doubt they are holding back features to start next season with a bang. More likely limited resources, infrastructure changes and processes to go through. It would be massively beneficial to have start over, pause, rewind etc working before the end of the season to quell renewal doubts.

I could see that yeah APL are likely looking at this as a bit of a write off. Such a disrupted schedule, midweek games, covid flaring up again. It's a mess. Might see some build up and advertising for finals but otherwise what's the point going hard now when they're up against all those other factors plus footy and afl being back. Got to play the long game here.

Love your optimism, don’t forget these goons are promoting the results go the way of the big clubs. Funny situation that the big clubs have the most powerful people in the APL. But there good blokes on Twitter so that’s ok.

 

[FFC Mariner]

What was interesting last night was most of the people I saw looked like pre AL fans of the Socceroos. Small crowd, terrible weather, shit team and it was really the true believers. People who go to Uzbekistan for a qualifier, go to a world cup. Those fans
No waves, no Oi Oi Oi, very tense game at 0-0 that everyone was into.
Felt like a proper football match which AL games tend not to because its mainly populated with "newer" fans.
Thats not a dig or meant to be exclusive but last night around us were the people the AL has worked really hard to stay away from.
The migrant who is at his local club at 7am every Saturday to mark the lines, the fans of NPL clubs that got excluded from Uncle Frank's brave new world - hindsight is wonderful but I'm now not certain locking them out was a good idea.
@marinermick knows what I mean and can probably express it better than me.
In CCM terms, why arent a bigger % of registered players and their families part of our fanbase?
Its not a simple answer but solving it fixes everything else for us

 

[booney]

Unfortunately the NPL was on its last legs-no media interest( except when there was some fan disturbance),small crowds,poorly run clubs( not all admittedly) and no money.

Lowy did football a great service by setting up the Aleague but did err in cutting ties with the old NPL clubs. No proper junior development was planned for and thus we are not producing the players and last night's match.However as the Aleague clubs are now involved in academies a generation of young players is coming through -Tilio,Atkinson,Burgess,D'Agostino,Rowles,Farrell,etc and the host of young players of African origin.

The APL needs to recognise that regional clubs like ourselves and the Jets are important to the league and to the game.

 

[TC Redline]

What was interesting last night was most of the people I saw looked like pre AL fans of the Socceroos. Small crowd, terrible weather, shit team and it was really the true believers. People who go to Uzbekistan for a qualifier, go to a world cup. Those fans
No waves, no Oi Oi Oi, very tense game at 0-0 that everyone was into.
Felt like a proper football match which AL games tend not to because its mainly populated with "newer" fans.
Thats not a dig or meant to be exclusive but last night around us were the people the AL has worked really hard to stay away from.
The migrant who is at his local club at 7am every Saturday to mark the lines, the fans of NPL clubs that got excluded from Uncle Frank's brave new world - hindsight is wonderful but I'm now not certain locking them out was a good idea.
@marinermick knows what I mean and can probably express it better than me.
In CCM terms, why arent a bigger % of registered players and their families part of our fanbase?
Its not a simple answer but solving it fixes everything else for us

Great post and with the point about CCM terms , that’s been my biggest gripe with the Central Coast people for years where we can’t even get say 25% of the registered players coming to the game. I believe there are around 16000 registered players and why can’t we get 25% of these people to a game and they would generally be bringing someone with them? Yep I get the active support issues where the league basically disbanding them, yep Covid, Poor results, scheduling etc etc, but I still stick by Central Coast people are too lazy and don’t realise how important it is to support a local team in a national competition. I get it that The scheduling is woeful ( imagine if you were at home every second week and everyone could get into a routine ) and with no local paper anymore , crap local radio and basically no tv coverage its an effort to find out when we are playing but crowds have been bad and getting worse for a while. I know right across the league crowds are poor but I hear all the excuses from people I know who use to go ( too hot, too cold, too wet, wrong time, Var etc etc) and it makes me think the people on the Coast are underserving of having a team in a National competition.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Great post and with the point about CCM terms , that’s been my biggest gripe with the Central Coast people for years where we can’t even get say 25% of the registered players coming to the game. I believe there are around 16000 registered players and why can’t we get 25% of these people to a game and they would generally be bringing someone with them? Yep I get the active support issues where the league basically disbanding them, yep Covid, Poor results, scheduling etc etc, but I still stick by Central Coast people are too lazy and don’t realise how important it is to support a local team in a national competition. I get it that The scheduling is woeful ( imagine if you were at home every second week and everyone could get into a routine ) and with no local paper anymore , crap local radio and basically no tv coverage its an effort to find out when we are playing but crowds have been bad and getting worse for a while. I know right across the league crowds are poor but I hear all the excuses from people I know who use to go ( too hot, too cold, too wet, wrong time, Var etc etc) and it makes me think the people on the Coast are underserving of having a team in a National competition.

This

 

[pjennings]

Great post and with the point about CCM terms , that’s been my biggest gripe with the Central Coast people for years where we can’t even get say 25% of the registered players coming to the game. I believe there are around 16000 registered players and why can’t we get 25% of these people to a game and they would generally be bringing someone with them? Yep I get the active support issues where the league basically disbanding them, yep Covid, Poor results, scheduling etc etc, but I still stick by Central Coast people are too lazy and don’t realise how important it is to support a local team in a national competition. I get it that The scheduling is woeful ( imagine if you were at home every second week and everyone could get into a routine ) and with no local paper anymore , crap local radio and basically no tv coverage its an effort to find out when we are playing but crowds have been bad and getting worse for a while. I know right across the league crowds are poor but I hear all the excuses from people I know who use to go ( too hot, too cold, too wet, wrong time, Var etc etc) and it makes me think the people on the Coast are underserving of having a team in a National competition.

My observation - and I don't know if this may be part of the answer My kids played when they were younger and were visited in pre-season by the squad many times. The kicker was that this was when the season started in August and the kids were in the middle of their season. A lot of kids went - often as teams (and brought their parents). Now with the later starts at the end of October and later are these sessions still held (or are they held in the kids pre-season). If they are held in the kids preseason then there is often only at a stage when there are only a few home games left

 

[turbo]

Love your optimism, don’t forget these goons are promoting the results go the way of the big clubs. Funny situation that the big clubs have the most powerful people in the APL. But there good blokes on Twitter so that’s ok.

Not everything is a conspiracy. They didn’t stop promoting because Victory or Sydney weren’t leading the comp. The draw fell into a shambles and we’ve been chasing the season ever since. Hopefully we get a somewhat normal lead in to the next season and the marketing will kick in as it should.

 

[Tevor]

Not everything is a conspiracy. They didn’t stop promoting because Victory or Sydney weren’t leading the comp. The draw fell into a shambles and we’ve been chasing the season ever since. Hopefully we get a somewhat normal lead in to the next season and the marketing will kick in as it should.

It’s not a conspiracy it’s an observation that the APL has been very underwhelming for the league. I don’t think that fact is undeniable.

Last season running on a shoe string budget from Fox with depleted squads is doing far better than this season.

You need a good product for marketing to work. By the end of the season crowd attendance and no doubt ratings will be at an all time low. You are placing so much faith in next season, Covid will probably still be around and so many will have given up watching by then due to the failure of P- to hook people early with a sub standard product.

isn’t this deal only 4 years, you seem to think it’s a never ending rainbow ?

 

[Wombat]

Gotta give TB a bit of a wrap...

Last season he said all last season that Gianni STENSNESS was something special...

Last night, Andy Harper said that Staj rated him as the new Jedi....

Most on the forum never picked how good he was...

TBF in his first season he couldn't hit a 10yd pass.

 

[Wombat]

Great post and with the point about CCM terms , that’s been my biggest gripe with the Central Coast people for years where we can’t even get say 25% of the registered players coming to the game. I believe there are around 16000 registered players and why can’t we get 25% of these people to a game and they would generally be bringing someone with them? Yep I get the active support issues where the league basically disbanding them, yep Covid, Poor results, scheduling etc etc, but I still stick by Central Coast people are too lazy and don’t realise how important it is to support a local team in a national competition. I get it that The scheduling is woeful ( imagine if you were at home every second week and everyone could get into a routine ) and with no local paper anymore , crap local radio and basically no tv coverage its an effort to find out when we are playing but crowds have been bad and getting worse for a while. I know right across the league crowds are poor but I hear all the excuses from people I know who use to go ( too hot, too cold, too wet, wrong time, Var etc etc) and it makes me think the people on the Coast are underserving of having a team in a National competition.

Some of the people on this forum are not deserving of a team tbh.