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[true believer]

The thing about that was the ETS was bi-partisan before the election and Rudd changed it accommodate the Liberals to be more like the Howard proposed one.

it was a start . the LNP was never gunna keep it's word .
it was the foot in the door . and when the LNP broke it's word .the greens walked hand in hand with barnaby joyce to kill the ets . it's was criminal and unforgivable

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Considering the cost of living issues that Labor has been in power on it should be a walk in for Liberals but Voldermort turns off Liberals little own swing voters.

The tax cuts are useless and expensive. Terrible play. Especially moving the Medicare levy threshold as well. You want to improve Medicare but your stopping people from paying. They should of increased the Medicare Levy. Sure it’s a tax hike but you have to pay for it somehow.

The fuel excise as mentioned will provide more relief immediately but will be abused by petrol businesses. There are already 20/30 cent gaps depending on where you live and can jump 30c in a instant. So without regulation it won’t work either

The cost of living issues existed under LNP. It was already happening under them. At least inflation has slowed right down under ALP.

So, I wholly disagree with the premise of your first sentence - but it's the same sort of misinformation we keep seeing from the bots on social media. Not accusing you of misinformation, but the premise that ALP are responsible for the cost of living crisis, or that they've done nothing, is wholly false.

Of course, the idea that the LNP have even the slightest interest in reducing cost of living is laughable, but that's a separate matter

Of course, I would love for Labor to have done more - but they have done quite a bit in this space.

The tax cuts are smart politically. Puts a small amount of money back into people's pockets - and managed to get the LNP to vote against this! There are broader problems with out tax system, yes, but this is something.

Oh, it's 'should have' not 'should of' - it doesn't abbreviate to should'f

This is the wrong budget to be increasing the levy. Just gives the LNP power to attack.

Honestly, I think one of the best things they could do for medicare, would be to legislate against employers requiring a medical certificate for a single day off work. I'd love to know how much medicare money is being spent on those appointments. It's an absurd, outdated, pointless requirement (Fairwork have ruled in favour of a stat dec - but then the question remains, if that's the case, why do they approve EBAs which require a medical cert?).

Medicare is a shadow of what it once was, though. It would take huge amounts of money to repair the damage, let alone expand it to where it should be. And that's only part of the problem with our health system. Access to "specialists" is a big problem - $250-300 for a 5-min appointment that's usually completely useless, with a tiny medicare rebate.


The fuel excise relief has been overstated by the LNP anyway. And won't benefit nearly as many people as the tax cuts.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

The liberal leadership is terrible. The Teal breakaway is not helping but they are also tone deaf as well.

They are reaching on policies too. Saying your going to sack government employees and stop WFH is dumb. That’s a lot of votes automatically lost. If you want to do dumb shit like that do it in yr 2 and don’t tell the voters.

Will be interesting to see how close it actually is

I think Temu Trump has overestimated the Australian appetite for Trumpism (despite a couple on this thread having a hard-on for him and/or his brand of hate-politics). I have to be honest, I thought it would be working better for him.

The Trumpism and culture wars are an absolute blight on this country. It's ridiculous. And this RTO bullshit is just another part of that.

But hey - conservatives and introducing policy that goes against evidence, name a better duo?

Not to mention his anti-women comments - telling women they should just work part-time instead. It's actually mindblowing how appalling that was.

But wow, it's almost like somebody who is sucking off the taxpayer teat with a childcare network might have a vested interest in driving more people towards more childcare. Who'd have thunk it? It's not like we're talking about somebody dodgy enough for insider trading here.

People who think WFH needs to stop need to remember that even those who can't WFH are benefitting from WFH. Less traffic on the road is a good thing for everybody.

 

[Hello Sailor]

Is it just me, or whenever you see a photo of Trump do you think he looks constipated?

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

thought he was a human laxative myself - because he always gives me the shits!

 

[Hello Sailor]

Q. What do you call an insurance policy that has no premiums, no excess, and no No Claim Bonus?
A. Too good to be true [or the NDIS].
When will a government have the balls to scrap it?
It costs tens of billions of dollars each year, the projected costs are looking awful and it seems that we wont have a balanced budget for many years to come.
We cant adequately fund Medicare, young people cant afford to buy a house, and our Defence forces desperately need upgrading. I'd prefer the funding go towards these instead.

Its been massively rorted, and parents get the shits if they cant dump their child's minor condition on the taxpayer because it is isnt eligible.
Are tax payer funded personal servants [aka individual carers] a cost efficient way to care for the disabled?
Surely institutions are more efficient. No doubt their current quality of life is much better but when is too much cost too much? [Maybe next of kin should fund the care before a tax payer funded safety net kicks in, and advocates can make donations to support an alternative].
There will be pushback from disability advocates and those with vested interests [and I already have a list of names in mind of the usual bleeding hearts on this forum who will soon be screaming bloody murder] but it seems to be a taboo subject that should be discussed.

 

[Time to go.]

It seems obvious to me that every single person deserves and is entitled to access to their basic needs - food, shelter, healthcare, clean air and water, and education - in an equitable way without having to sacrifice everything for it.

If you say otherwise you're either indoctrinated, an arsehole, or both.

There is more than enough wealth in the world to achieve these ends easily. Basic needs for wellbeing is the baseline all people, regardless of their circumstances, should be entitled to.

Then, and only then, if people want to go above and beyond this and buy themselves a porsche - no worries, be an entrepreneur, invest, whatever and do so. But any argument to take away basic needs from others is unjustified, logistically irrelevant, and simply monstrous.

 

[Hello Sailor]

It seems obvious to me that every single person deserves and are entitled to access to their basic needs - food, shelter, healthcare, clean air and water, and education in an equitable way without having to sacrifice everything for it.

If you say otherwise you're either indoctrinated, an arsehole, or both.

There is more than enough wealth in the world to achieve these ends easily. Basic needs for wellbeing is the baseline all people, regardless of their circumstances, should be entitled to.

Then, and only then, if people want to go above and beyond this and buy themselves a porsche - no worries, be an entrepreneur, invest, whatever and do so. But any argument to take away basic needs from others is simply monstrous.

Ticks off first of predicted outraged bleeding hearts.

Nice try but no cigar.
Where did I suggest that food shelter healthcare clean air water and education should be denied?
Name calling, how original. Spax and Rusted On would be proud.

If you feel that disabled people should get a better quality of life, YOU pay for it, DONT expect everyone else to do so to make you feel better about yourself.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Q. What do you call an insurance policy that has no premiums, no excess, and no No Claim Bonus?
A. Too good to be true [or the NDIS].
When will a government have the balls to scrap it?
It costs tens of billions of dollars each year, the projected costs are looking awful and it seems that we wont have a balanced budget for many years to come.
We cant adequately fund Medicare, young people cant afford to buy a house, and our Defence forces desperately need upgrading. I'd prefer the funding go towards these instead.

Its been massively rorted, and parents get the shits if they cant dump their child's minor condition on the taxpayer because it is isnt eligible.
Are tax payer funded personal servants [aka individual carers] a cost efficient way to care for the disabled?
Surely institutions are more efficient. No doubt their current quality of life is much better but when is too much cost too much? [Maybe next of kin should fund the care before a tax payer funded safety net kicks in, and advocates can make donations to support an alternative].
There will be pushback from disability advocates and those with vested interests [and I already have a list of names in mind of the usual bleeding hearts on this forum who will soon be screaming bloody murder] but it seems to be a taboo subject that should be discussed.

Yeah, I'm sure it would just he cheaper to set up camps to shove them all into, if we're concentrating on money being the only thing that matters.

Tents count as housing, after all.

I mean, have they tried just, like, not being disabled? I bet they haven't.

Bloody freeholders

 

[Time to go.]

Ticks off first of predicted outraged bleeding heart.

Nice try but no cigar.
Where did I suggest that food shelter healthcare clean air water and education should be denied?
Name calling, how original. Spax and Rusted On would be proud.

If you feel that disabled people should get a better quality of life, YOU pay for it, DONT expect everyone else to do so to make you feel better about yourself.

I wasn't speaking directly to you - but you've shown your character properly here

 

[Hello Sailor]

I wasn't speaking directly to you - but you've shown your character properly here

meh

 

[Hello Sailor]

Yeah, I'm sure it would just he cheaper to set up camps to shove them all into, if we're concentrating on money being the only thing that matters.

Tents count as housing, after all.

I mean, have they tried just, like, not being disabled? I bet they haven't.

Bloody freeholders

Lol, ticks off second predicted outraged bleeding heart from list.
Again with the straw man.
I think you mean free LOADERS

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Name calling, how original. .

You started the name calling in this little rant of yours. Don't be a hypocrite

But, that's what you usually do on here. Go on some rant and immediately say "oh, anybody who disagrees is a [insert conservative buzzword here)", while pretending you're really really there for genuine debate, when it's clear you're not.

Be better than that. That routine is tired, disingenuous, and completely transparent.

 

[Time to go.]

Lol, ticks off second predicted outraged bleeding heart from list.

You view compassion and contributing to the greater good as a character flaw, and utter selfishness as the way to be.
I'd be ashamed to hold that worldview. Your opinion holds very little worth in this context.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Ticks off first of predicted outraged bleeding hearts.

If you feel that disabled people should get a better quality of life, YOU pay for it, DONT expect everyone else to do so to make you feel better about yourself.

So you have a final solution in mind for disabled people?
It's been done before

 

[Hello Sailor]

You started the name calling in this little rant of yours. Don't be a hypocrite

Really, WHO did I call a name?

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Lol, ticks off second predicted outraged bleeding heart from list.
Again with the straw man.

Childish and pathetic.

Your entire post was "disabled people are leeches who deserve no rights "


f**k me, count your lucky stars you're not one.

Remember- that can easily change tomorrow. Many people are on there with an acquired brain injury.

Yes, the ndis has a stack of problems, but your "f**k the disabled, they're not actually human" approach is disgraceful. And don't pretend you have any interest o
In genuinely discussing the problems

But yes, you keep clutching your pearls and pretending you wanted genuine debate, while insulting others and pretending to be a victim when others respond in kind.

Ffs. We're all sick of this shit. Grow up, stop being a hypocrite, and stop using insults against anybody who dares to not agree with you wholeheartedly.

 

[Hello Sailor]

You view compassion and contributing to the greater good as a character flaw, and utter selfishness as the way to be.

Another straw man. Congratulations, going for the trifecta?

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Really, WHO did I call a name?

Is someone else writing your posts? Because if your memory is that bad, you should probably see a neurosurgeon to find out what's happening.

If only there was some way to see what you had written....

Ohhh, my mistake. You're another one who thinks that insults are only insults when other people use them against you.

Because you've said something, it can't be an insult!

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Another straw man. Congratulations, going for the trifecta?

Yawn.

Maybe look up what a strawman is.

Simply throwing it around like that just makes you look silly.

But yes, like everything else you do on here, it's just a way to prevent actual debate.

Maybe look at yourself before you start accusing others of fallacies