So I finally got to a physio...

[Kareem]

besides even if he may possibly be incorrect in referring you to a Orthapaedic surgeon- they check you up prior to surgery i think!

You would be incorrect, an orthopedic surgeon can check for many things, and don't always operate. Like any specialty in medicine it covers a range of things. Thats why they are continually studying to make sure its all correct.

how am I incorrect???
I didnt say they couldnt do other things...- I was saying that an orthapaedic surgeon would typically be referred to by a physio in relation to surgery- which is true..isnt it?
Orthapaedic surgeons know a hell of a lot more than pod's (my friend wants to finish podiatry degree and then do medicine in order to become an OS)

 

[T]

besides even if he may possibly be incorrect in referring you to a Orthapaedic surgeon- they check you up prior to surgery i think!

You would be incorrect, an orthopedic surgeon can check for many things, and don't always operate. Like any specialty in medicine it covers a range of things. Thats why they are continually studying to make sure its all correct.

how am I incorrect???
I didnt say they couldnt do other things...- I was saying that an orthapaedic surgeon would typically be referred to by a physio in relation to surgery- which is true..isnt it?
Orthapaedic surgeons know a hell of a lot more than pod's (my friend wants to finish podiatry degree and then do medicine in order to become an OS)

You would be incorrect because you inferred that the only reason to see an orthopedic surgeon would be for surgery....

 

[Kareem]

besides even if he may possibly be incorrect in referring you to a Orthapaedic surgeon- they check you up prior to surgery i think!

You would be incorrect, an orthopedic surgeon can check for many things, and don't always operate. Like any specialty in medicine it covers a range of things. Thats why they are continually studying to make sure its all correct.

how am I incorrect???
I didnt say they couldnt do other things...- I was saying that an orthapaedic surgeon would typically be referred to by a physio in relation to surgery- which is true..isnt it?
Orthapaedic surgeons know a hell of a lot more than pod's (my friend wants to finish podiatry degree and then do medicine in order to become an OS)

You would be incorrect because you inferred that the only reason to see an orthopedic surgeon would be for surgery....

i didnt
i inferred that OS would be only referred to for surgery which is true...they are capable of everything a podiatrist does but they are similar to a specialist- only get referrals when its their job description (ven though they can do many things).
You wouldnt bother to refer to an OS unless it was regarding surgery- not to say they arent capable (which like I said they are).

 

[T]

besides even if he may possibly be incorrect in referring you to a Orthapaedic surgeon- they check you up prior to surgery i think!

You would be incorrect, an orthopedic surgeon can check for many things, and don't always operate. Like any specialty in medicine it covers a range of things. Thats why they are continually studying to make sure its all correct.

how am I incorrect???
I didnt say they couldnt do other things...- I was saying that an orthapaedic surgeon would typically be referred to by a physio in relation to surgery- which is true..isnt it?
Orthapaedic surgeons know a hell of a lot more than pod's (my friend wants to finish podiatry degree and then do medicine in order to become an OS)

You would be incorrect because you inferred that the only reason to see an orthopedic surgeon would be for surgery....

i didnt
i inferred that OS would be only referred to for surgery which is true...they are capable of everything a podiatrist does but they are similar to a specialist- only get referrals when its their job description (ven though they can do many things).
You wouldnt bother to refer to an OS unless it was regarding surgery- not to say they arent capable (which like I said they are).

And that is where you are wrong, you are not always referred to the OS for surgery. Thank you for proving my point. And unless you have had as many dealings with injuries and the like, including referals to OS...
Thing is this argument can go on and on, but what it comes down to is what is right for the individual.

 

[dibo]

how bout we all have a chat after i've seen the doc on tuesday huh?

 

[Kareem]

besides even if he may possibly be incorrect in referring you to a Orthapaedic surgeon- they check you up prior to surgery i think!

You would be incorrect, an orthopedic surgeon can check for many things, and don't always operate. Like any specialty in medicine it covers a range of things. Thats why they are continually studying to make sure its all correct.

how am I incorrect???
I didnt say they couldnt do other things...- I was saying that an orthapaedic surgeon would typically be referred to by a physio in relation to surgery- which is true..isnt it?
Orthapaedic surgeons know a hell of a lot more than pod's (my friend wants to finish podiatry degree and then do medicine in order to become an OS)

You would be incorrect because you inferred that the only reason to see an orthopedic surgeon would be for surgery....

i didnt
i inferred that OS would be only referred to for surgery which is true...they are capable of everything a podiatrist does but they are similar to a specialist- only get referrals when its their job description (ven though they can do many things).
You wouldnt bother to refer to an OS unless it was regarding surgery- not to say they arent capable (which like I said they are).

And that is where you are wrong, you are not always referred to the OS for surgery. Thank you for proving my point. And unless you have had as many dealings with injuries and the like, including referals to OS...
Thing is this argument can go on and on, but what it comes down to is what is right for the individual.

why on earth would anyone refer an ankle sprain patient to an OS if it isnt to do with surgery??? Heck a physio doesnt refer to podiatrists (as physio's believe they are capable enough to deal with rehab by themselves)
Talking to a GP, and a 4th yar pod student they are backing me...
GP said he wouldnt even refer to pod's only physio for rehab and OS for surgery if needed
i trust the GP more than you or myself- unless you are qualified (no sarcasm- where is your knowledge from?)
Kareem

 

[marinermick]

besides even if he may possibly be incorrect in referring you to a Orthapaedic surgeon- they check you up prior to surgery i think!

You would be incorrect, an orthopedic surgeon can check for many things, and don't always operate. Like any specialty in medicine it covers a range of things. Thats why they are continually studying to make sure its all correct.

how am I incorrect???
I didnt say they couldnt do other things...- I was saying that an orthapaedic surgeon would typically be referred to by a physio in relation to surgery- which is true..isnt it?
Orthapaedic surgeons know a hell of a lot more than pod's (my friend wants to finish podiatry degree and then do medicine in order to become an OS)

You would be incorrect because you inferred that the only reason to see an orthopedic surgeon would be for surgery....

i didnt
i inferred that OS would be only referred to for surgery which is true...they are capable of everything a podiatrist does but they are similar to a specialist- only get referrals when its their job description (ven though they can do many things).
You wouldnt bother to refer to an OS unless it was regarding surgery- not to say they arent capable (which like I said they are).

And that is where you are wrong, you are not always referred to the OS for surgery. Thank you for proving my point. And unless you have had as many dealings with injuries and the like, including referals to OS...
Thing is this argument can go on and on, but what it comes down to is what is right for the individual.

why on earth would anyone refer an ankle sprain patient to an OS if it isnt to do with surgery??? Heck a physio doesnt refer to podiatrists (as physio's believe they are capable enough to deal with rehab by themselves)
Talking to a GP, and a 4th yar pod student they are backing me...
GP said he wouldnt even refer to pod's only physio for rehab and OS for surgery if needed
i trust the GP more than you or myself- unless you are qualified (no sarcasm- where is your knowledge from?)
Kareem

i speak to about ten GPs a day in my job and i can safely say, that on the whole, physios would know more about sports injuries than GPs

most GPs are 60+ and are not update on the latest sports rehabilitation techniques because it is not a priority for them

dr stuart anderson (marinator) at lisarow excluded and of course dr king in east gosford because that is 90% of his business

 

[Gen (MarinerMum)]

This is like a tennis match.!!

Kareem, if only people read what you had to say without judging who you are!

There is certainly a lot of merit in what you have to say.  Podiatrists are certainly an option along with physio.  Often surgeons think using a medical model.  Often a holistic approach to healing is warranted.  This is where a team approach would be good however, medicine does not  traditionally view allied health fields well.  The profession you are going into is poorly understood by many.  They simply think you cut toe nails, fix corns and make shoes fit. 


I've worked closely with Podiatrists in my field and have found them valueable in terms of input into healing wounds, gait problems and lower limb injuries.  Although not sporting client certainly, the general population group.

Anyway, Dibo - I'm glad you got to chant out loud last week.  Hope that the discussion with health professionals is fruitful and not too painful.  All the best MM

 

[Atomic]

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dr stuart anderson (marinator)
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Cool!  The things you learn on this forum. My GP is a marinator.

 

[dibo]

so...

saw my sports doc, got the poking and 'does that hurt' business, all the usual. got sent for another x-ray to see if any bone is loose or whatever and when that finally came back i took it back to her and it seems i put a couple of little fractures into the talus and the fibula, showing up as little white lines in the bone. three weeks after the initial injury it seems they're healing and stable, so no problem there. there might be a little sliver of bone that i've taken off the face of the deltoid (?) though, so i may yet need to see a surgeon to put screws in me.

first off i'm getting an MRI next week. oh what fun...

 

[Paolo]

oh what fun...

oh how expensive

 

[dibo]

oh what fun...

oh how expensive

the MRI's going to be *only* $300 or so. had feared it would be worse than that, so i'm kinda pleasantly surprised (or at least as pleasantly surprised as you can be in the circumstances).

if we go to surgery, then that's a different matter. hopefully if they do open me up they can basically just fix everything given that there's about 3 or 4 ligaments with bits flapping around - even if they're only grade 2 tears as seems likely it seems kinda a waste to spend all that money on an anaesthetist etc. and not get the ligaments sewn up nice and tidy while we're there... we'll see after the MRI.

 

[Bear]

Private health care is a good thing people

 

[dibo]

Private health care is a good thing people

nothing back for the MRI.

nyah!

anyways, whether or not private care could cover you, i believe that everyone should have access to the best care medical technology can provide.

 

[clarence]

What? You get nothing, not even a Medicare rebate when you have an MRI? Shit that's bad.

Are you getting a flame painted on your walking stick like House?

 

[dibo]

What? You get nothing, not even a Medicare rebate when you have an MRI? Shit that's bad.

Are you getting a flame painted on your walking stick like House?

no walking stick, just an aircast holding my tibia and fibula together while my syndesmosis(?) heals up.

 

[Kareem]

This is like a tennis match.!!

Kareem, if only people read what you had to say without judging who you are!

There is certainly a lot of merit in what you have to say.  Podiatrists are certainly an option along with physio.  Often surgeons think using a medical model.  Often a holistic approach to healing is warranted.  This is where a team approach would be good however, medicine does not  traditionally view allied health fields well.  The profession you are going into is poorly understood by many.  They simply think you cut toe nails, fix corns and make shoes fit. 


I've worked closely with Podiatrists in my field and have found them valueable in terms of input into healing wounds, gait problems and lower limb injuries.  Although not sporting client certainly, the general population group.

Anyway, Dibo - I'm glad you got to chant out loud last week.  Hope that the discussion with health professionals is fruitful and not too painful.  All the best MM

thanks- very true wat you said
wow you sound like my lecturers - every 2nd word is 'hollistic health', 'multidiscaplinary team', "allied health"...

 

[Kareem]

besides even if he may possibly be incorrect in referring you to a Orthapaedic surgeon- they check you up prior to surgery i think!

You would be incorrect, an orthopedic surgeon can check for many things, and don't always operate. Like any specialty in medicine it covers a range of things. Thats why they are continually studying to make sure its all correct.

how am I incorrect???
I didnt say they couldnt do other things...- I was saying that an orthapaedic surgeon would typically be referred to by a physio in relation to surgery- which is true..isnt it?
Orthapaedic surgeons know a hell of a lot more than pod's (my friend wants to finish podiatry degree and then do medicine in order to become an OS)

You would be incorrect because you inferred that the only reason to see an orthopedic surgeon would be for surgery....

i didnt
i inferred that OS would be only referred to for surgery which is true...they are capable of everything a podiatrist does but they are similar to a specialist- only get referrals when its their job description (ven though they can do many things).
You wouldnt bother to refer to an OS unless it was regarding surgery- not to say they arent capable (which like I said they are).

And that is where you are wrong, you are not always referred to the OS for surgery. Thank you for proving my point. And unless you have had as many dealings with injuries and the like, including referals to OS...
Thing is this argument can go on and on, but what it comes down to is what is right for the individual.

why on earth would anyone refer an ankle sprain patient to an OS if it isnt to do with surgery??? Heck a physio doesnt refer to podiatrists (as physio's believe they are capable enough to deal with rehab by themselves)
Talking to a GP, and a 4th yar pod student they are backing me...
GP said he wouldnt even refer to pod's only physio for rehab and OS for surgery if needed
i trust the GP more than you or myself- unless you are qualified (no sarcasm- where is your knowledge from?)
Kareem

i speak to about ten GPs a day in my job and i can safely say, that on the whole, physios would know more about sports injuries than GPs

most GPs are 60+ and are not update on the latest sports rehabilitation techniques because it is not a priority for them

dr stuart anderson (marinator) at lisarow excluded and of course dr king in east gosford because that is 90% of his business

Ummm....
i think you misunderstood me!
Ofocurse phyio's know more than GP's about sports injuries
i was saying that GP's know more about referrals (thats wat they do 1/2 the time ) + know more than any non-health professional (obviously).
My argument was GP was saying who he refers to for what...and that he would only refer to OS for surgery!
I'm not that silly (to think that GP's know more than Physio's...otherwise why would they refer on to phyio's so much)

 

[T]

Its quote city in this thread....
As for where my knowledge comes from - Most of it is personal experiance, the rest from being involved in the medical community for 25yrs.

 

[loyalist]

from reading this whole thread
my medical expertise says the foot has to be amputated
sry dibo