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Shield may be no more

Capn Gus Bloodbeard

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Arabmariner said:
bulldogmariner said:
He was a ref at 2006 World Cup so he is pretty good.
So Graham Poll's pretty good too then ;)

He is, IMO.  He totally f****d up at the WC, but so did the rest of the 'world's best'.  Besides, there were 3 other officials at that game who have a responsibility to backup the referee to ensure errors - such as failing to send off a player for a 2nd YC - do not occur. 

From what I understand, FIFA really tried to break these referees down and reeducate them from the ground up to referee how they wanted them to ref.  Which is why the refereeing is such a disaster.

Had they simply said 'you guys are the world's best referees, get out there and do what you do', I bet things would've been different.

Anyway, I won't be sorry to see the back of Shield.  I believe he's a referee who places too much importance on what decisions allow him to look good, and what decisions make the game flow better - personally I think it's those sort of attitudes that foster a culture of abuse, disrespect, lack of responsibility and generally cynical and dangerous play.

I also believe that, while he referees, he WILL get the GF every year - it doesn't matter if he's performing or not, he WILL get it, and I think that's a really bad thing for both the spectators, and the other officials (where's the incentive to try and be the best in Australia?).

Breeze will now take #1 spot (say what you will, I like him - I personally rate him above Shield anyway), but I think there will be a lot more competition now that Shield is gone.  Especially now that we're close to having an extra match a week.

It also helps increase variation - seeing the same handful of officials week in, week out, isn't a good thing.

And the more incentive there is for referees to improve, the better referees our matches should be.
 

Paolo

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Bex said:
At least it wasn't a grand final.
because the english are not stupid enough to brand a team who perform well in a few games after the regular season as 'champions'
 

Kareem

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keensy said:
Bex said:
At least it wasn't a grand final.
because the english are not stupid enough to brand a team who perform well in a few games after the regular season as 'champions'
+1

wat a stupid mistake.
I have seen goal line mistakes but they r still arguable...both teams claming opposite. lol at this!
 

Kris

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Goodbye Shieldsy.

I guess this is Vukovic's revenge for the suspension.

Though don't get me wrong, I'm glad justice prevailed and that Vukovic didnt get to play in the Olympics.
 

marinermick

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Kris said:
Goodbye Shieldsy.

I guess this is Vukovic's revenge for the suspension.

Though don't get me wrong, I'm glad justice prevailed and that Vukovic didnt get to play in the Olympics.

What would you know about justice when you were not privy to any of danny's hearings or involved in the delivery of evidence presented as well as the legal arguments prevailing?
 

Kris

Member
marinermick said:
Kris said:
Goodbye Shieldsy.

I guess this is Vukovic's revenge for the suspension.

Though don't get me wrong, I'm glad justice prevailed and that Vukovic didnt get to play in the Olympics.

What would you know about justice when you were not privy to any of danny's hearings or involved in the delivery of evidence presented as well as the legal arguments prevailing?

don't get on the defensive... i'm more referring to the fact that the judciary decided to not allow him to play after originally opting to remove the suspension JUST for the olympics. When a guy gets suspended, he should not be allowed to be rewarded with that 'relief' of his terms of punishment. especially when u're on a suspended sentence as is.
 

marinermick

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Kris said:
marinermick said:
Kris said:
Goodbye Shieldsy.

I guess this is Vukovic's revenge for the suspension.

Though don't get me wrong, I'm glad justice prevailed and that Vukovic didnt get to play in the Olympics.

What would you know about justice when you were not privy to any of danny's hearings or involved in the delivery of evidence presented as well as the legal arguments prevailing?

don't get on the defensive... i'm more referring to the fact that the judciary decided to not allow him to play after originally opting to remove the suspension JUST for the olympics. When a guy gets suspended, he should not be allowed to be rewarded with that 'relief' of his terms of punishment. especially when u're on a suspended sentence as is.

You are still commenting on right and wrong when you were not at the hearings.

Of course we are going to get defensive when an opposition supporter comes on here sprouting ill-founded opinions and slagging off our goalkeeper.
 

FFC Mariner

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.....and his postings started off so reasonably.

The whole f**king incident was a farce:

Shield missed the handball
Shield ignored the linesman who saw something
Shield lost control of the game
Shield sent Danny off for pushing his hand away (but let Milligan poke him in the chest earlier in the season)

But you wank on about justice.
 

Kris

Member
marinermick said:
Kris said:
marinermick said:
Kris said:
Goodbye Shieldsy.

I guess this is Vukovic's revenge for the suspension.

Though don't get me wrong, I'm glad justice prevailed and that Vukovic didnt get to play in the Olympics.

What would you know about justice when you were not privy to any of danny's hearings or involved in the delivery of evidence presented as well as the legal arguments prevailing?

don't get on the defensive... i'm more referring to the fact that the judciary decided to not allow him to play after originally opting to remove the suspension JUST for the olympics. When a guy gets suspended, he should not be allowed to be rewarded with that 'relief' of his terms of punishment. especially when u're on a suspended sentence as is.

You are still commenting on right and wrong when you were not at the hearings.

Of course we are going to get defensive when an opposition supporter comes on here sprouting ill-founded opinions and slagging off our goalkeeper.

I'm not slagging off your goalkeeper, I have every respect for Danny as a professional footballer. So let's get that straight.

Maybe I should use a better example. Take the Jaap Stam incident about five or so years back. It's not the incident i'm referring to it's the punishment. He was out for five months for nandralone. During this time Holland was in qualifying for the 2002 FIFA World Cup and floundering. Losses to Portugal and Rep. Ireland meant they never made it.

So what you're saying is, that if there was some ounce of legality to it, Stam should have been allowed to play key fixtures and resumed his ban? I couldn't care less if you're part of the proceedings, i agree with every decision the judiciary has made during the process bar one in which they originally allowed him to go to the olympics.

I think you forget we had a player in Stan Lazaridis who was out for a whopping 12 months. He had a fair cause, and the drug was even rationalised during his ban. Doesn't mean he got off. He still saw out his ban, and us Glory Fans grinned and bared it. Laza was never offered the chance to play International football during his ban, despite calls for it. As such, he's never really had the chance to end his international career.

Again, don't be so defensive. Try and look at it from an alternative perspective. If I was going to flame Danny as a player, don't you think I would have done it in a more generic fashion?

Greenpoleffc said:
.....and his postings started off so reasonably.

The whole f**king incident was a farce:

Shield missed the handball
Shield ignored the linesman who saw something
Shield lost control of the game
Shield sent Danny off for pushing his hand away (but let Milligan poke him in the chest earlier in the season)

But you wank on about justice.

GreenPole I completely agree with you completely. I don't agree with the red card in the first place, but a ban originally is a ban that should stay its course. You should be able to appeal but if its not reduced to nothing, or to before the olympics, you shouldnt be allowed to go, its as fair as that.

Another thing i disagree with is that a punishment can ONLY be increased on a red card, which is bollocks, especially after that Joel Griffiths ball punching incident last year.
 

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