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Round 3 - PINK Round v Adelaide
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Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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It's a shame that hiariej and McCormack aren't linking in well ... Tommy h seems to not have the chance to stand out so much this season
I would kill to have Izzo as our keeper ATM. It's a real problem area for us.
This is an extract on the A-League site where the refs explain the decisions. What a crock, effectively the Nix received a Pen for the same situation however our Ref thought otherwise and the VAR is now too scared to intervene. Non-deliberate action however it stopped the ball from going into the goal. Enough said and why bother with the VAR now they are too scared to intervene.
"And the decision not to award a penalty for the Central Coast Mariners.
This was a similar to the incident in Wellington but on this occasion the referee did not award a penalty kick. The referee had a clear view and felt that that it was a non-deliberate action. The VAR correctly determined that this incident did not meet the threshold for VAR involvement. This follows the instruction to VARs to avoid intervening in subjective and technical decisions which are not clearly and obviously wrong and leave those decisions to the on-field officials."
"And the decision not to award a penalty for the Central Coast Mariners.
This was a similar to the incident in Wellington but on this occasion the referee did not award a penalty kick. The referee had a clear view and felt that that it was a non-deliberate action. The VAR correctly determined that this incident did not meet the threshold for VAR involvement. This follows the instruction to VARs to avoid intervening in subjective and technical decisions which are not clearly and obviously wrong and leave those decisions to the on-field officials."
bikinigirl
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. don't want to talk about the game
. good to see Recky flashing his pink bits supporting a good cause though:
. good to see Recky flashing his pink bits supporting a good cause though:
Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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You know, considering that after only 3 games the crowd is already booing the team...well, our crowd numbers are in serious trouble. The podcast boys have it right, all the hard work and initiatives of the club aren't going to turn it around. At best they can mitigate the damage - without winning, we won't lift numbers.
And if we can't win the next 2 games, the away contingent of The Cove will be the only thing keeping our numbers above 4k
And if we can't win the next 2 games, the away contingent of The Cove will be the only thing keeping our numbers above 4k
Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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It's an absolute disgrace. It's basically the same as a number of penalties awarded in the world cup by the VAR - the principle set there was that defenders cannot jump up for a header with arms out at 90 degrees.
So, these incompetent idiots are going AGAINST what was taught in the World Cup.
Typical for us to get screwed over.
But what I wonder is - did the VAR even see the touch?
Given the standard set in the world cup, how on earth was it not a 'clear and obvious error'?
the continued incompetence is amazing - but it's not just the referees; the management has gone so far out of the way to reduce the VAR impact that now it's not stepping in when it needs to. They've f**ked it the other way.
Incidentally, Trevor: you say Non-deliberate action however it stopped the ball from going into the goal
It doesn't matter what the outcome is if it's accidental - handling doesn't go from accidental to deliberate (remember, it must be deliberate...although 'careless' is probably a more suitable term) just because there's a benefit
style_cafe
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He doesn`t look to happy...
style_cafe
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The crowd were not booing our team,they were booing the referee who didn`t allow us the 2 penalties...
Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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What was the other penalty?
tim...
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I think there were two handball shouts, one more obvious than the other possibly
Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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Ah yeah, that other one was definitely accidental
Antlion
Well-Known Member
good to see Mulvey owns it and seems to know the problems. So refreshing after Okon always said we were great even when we were the worst
Mariners first home game of the season a lesson
TOPICS:CCMvADUCentral Coast Mariners
November 9, 2018
It was not the result the Central Coast Mariners wanted at home in front of a crowd of 6,043, and Coach, Mike Mulvey, made it clear that he was not at all happy with the home side’s 0-3 loss against Adelaide United at Central Coast Stadium on Sunday, November 4.
Prior to the match, Mulvey described his squad as a “new club” in terms of personnel but, after the 0-3 loss to Adelaide, he said he took complete responsibility for his squad’s, at times, shambolic performance on the pitch. “There were no warning signs, it is a time for reflection, it is a time to go and have a look in the mirror and the fi rst person who does that is me, I take full responsibility,” Mulvey said in his post-match media conference.
“The main issue was that we didn’t get to grips with their central midfield, we didn’t get hold of Isaias, we were a little bit vulnerable when he got the ball and we lost the game from there, but goals change games and if you look at where they are coming from, they just won the FFA Cup, so they are a little bit buoyant,” he said. “I think we made it a little bit easy for them to get the first two goals and they became a little bit more confident, and perhaps we just went into our shell a little bit, so we need to change that.”
The clash between last year’s wooden spooners and the newly-crowned FFA Cup Champions was bound to put Mulvey’s men to the test. Post-match, Adelaide’s Coach, Marco Kurz, made it clear that winning the FFA Cup was special, but his goal was to make it to the A-League final. His confidence going into the game against the Mariners was shown by his choice of an attacking 4-5-1 formation up against a conservative 4-4-2 for the home side.
Both sides were sitting on two points before Sunday’s match, but many may have considered the Mariners’ lucky to come away with a point from their first two season 2018-19 A-League games, whereas Adelaide may have been considered unlucky not to have six points at the end of round 2. Adelaide had won its last three matches at Central Coast Stadium, in fact, they’d won seven out of their past 10 games, and were undefeated in their past four matches. Mulvey said he wanted the three points for the home side, but could they do it when Adelaide had scoring weapons like Craig Goodwin?
Running towards the palm trees in the first 45 minutes, the Mariners tried to keep possession, but Adelaide found their way through the home side’s midfield too easily. Adelaide’s scoring machine, Craig Goodwin, took full advantage of the Mariners’ early weakness with a goal at the eighth minute. Tommy Oar tried to respond with a through ball intended for Captain, Matt Simon, but it was miss-timed, and that characterised Oar’s whole 90-minute game. McGlinchy was one of the Mariner’s strongest performers on the day, consistently attempting to set up shots on goal, but the box was often full of nothing but white shirts, and this was the pink round. Adelaide striker, Apostolos Stamatelopoulos, scored in the 15th minute, catching all four Mariners’ defenders missing in action, and keeper, Ben Kennedy, off his line.
Corners and free kicks gave the Coast opportunities that they were not able to maximise. Galloway and Goodwin put on an excellent display of teamwork down the visitor’s left flank that couldn’t be matched by the Mariners. The home side’s weakness throughout the first half continued to be in the midfield and defence. A free kick out of a yellow card to Stamatelopoulos and a home side corner still didn’t result in a goal for the Coast during the last 10 minutes of the fi rst half. McGlinchy and Cisse set up a chance for Simon from a corner, but he kicked it into the side of the net.
Goodwin out ran defender, Kye Rowles, again but was fortunately blown offside, so Adelaide missed out on achieving their fi rst-ever third goal away from home in a first half. The Central Coast continued to create scoring opportunities in the dying minutes of the fi rst half, but the Adelaide defence remained unbreakable. A dejected Central Coast Mariners headed to the change rooms 0-2 and defender, Anthony Golec, told the Fox Sport crew that he thought the home side’s performance was “terrible”. Mulvey’s half-time change room message was short, if not sweet, he spent most of the break on the sideline giving instructions to, Connor Pain. “At half time, I asked the lads to have a good think about what had happened in the first half and if anybody didn’t think that they could be part of a winning team in the second half, to stay in the dressing room,” Mulvey said.
“We talk about home truths and we made a little bit of a change but at the end of the day it is about performances, we have to earn the trust of the Central Coast public and we need to do that with performances on the park,” he said. Post-match he said he gave the squad time to think over what he’d had to say. Mulvey decided to substitute, Tom Hiariej, for, Andrew Hoole, at half time, on the basis that he believed the squad needed more strength in the centre midfi eld. The Coast’s performance did lift in the second half, and they only conceded one more goal, but several key players, particularly, Tommy Oar, still did not appear to be fi ring on all cylinders. A keeper error resulted in Adelaide’s Goodwin scoring his second goal of the match (and seventh in seven games) at the 55th minute.
Shortly after, the VAR failed to take any interest when Referee, Alex King, declined to give the Mariners a clear penalty for a hand ball, which could have a resulted in at least one face-saving goal for the home side. At the 70th minute, the crowd saw, Tommy Oar’s, potential, when he bounded towards goal but chose to pass back for Simon to take the shot, which missed the target again. Mulvey remained refreshingly decisive, using his final substitution to replace McGlinchy with Matt Millar’s fresh legs. Successive corners and free kicks still didn’t result in a change of luck for the Central Coast Mariners. O’Neill had a crack and missed at the 75th minute. Oar had another chance at around the 80th minute, but could not fire a shot on target. Kye Rowles had to stave off a late Adelaide shot, and the Mariners managed to retain the 0-3 score line during four minutes of extra time.
Speaking after their win, Adelaide Coach, Marco Kurz, said his side’s plan was to use the holes in the Mariners’ midfi eld and defence. “It was our plan because we know the spaces in the back four line, we trained and that was very good from our side and I am very happy,” Kurz said. “Absolutely it was a wake-up call but I didn’t see it coming,” Mulvey said of the home side’s defeat. “I thought we trained pretty well during the week, when they came off from the warm up, everyone said it was the best warm up we’d done really,” he said. “In the past this has been normal, the losing three-nil, but we can’t accept that, and I will not accept that, and as I said, I will fi x it on the training paddock and we will get a team ready to go next week.” The Central Coast Mariners go on the road for the next two rounds of the A-League, Playing Melbourne Victory on Sunday, November 11, and Perth Glory on Sunday, November 25.
Mariners first home game of the season a lesson
TOPICS:CCMvADUCentral Coast Mariners
November 9, 2018
It was not the result the Central Coast Mariners wanted at home in front of a crowd of 6,043, and Coach, Mike Mulvey, made it clear that he was not at all happy with the home side’s 0-3 loss against Adelaide United at Central Coast Stadium on Sunday, November 4.
Prior to the match, Mulvey described his squad as a “new club” in terms of personnel but, after the 0-3 loss to Adelaide, he said he took complete responsibility for his squad’s, at times, shambolic performance on the pitch. “There were no warning signs, it is a time for reflection, it is a time to go and have a look in the mirror and the fi rst person who does that is me, I take full responsibility,” Mulvey said in his post-match media conference.
“The main issue was that we didn’t get to grips with their central midfield, we didn’t get hold of Isaias, we were a little bit vulnerable when he got the ball and we lost the game from there, but goals change games and if you look at where they are coming from, they just won the FFA Cup, so they are a little bit buoyant,” he said. “I think we made it a little bit easy for them to get the first two goals and they became a little bit more confident, and perhaps we just went into our shell a little bit, so we need to change that.”
The clash between last year’s wooden spooners and the newly-crowned FFA Cup Champions was bound to put Mulvey’s men to the test. Post-match, Adelaide’s Coach, Marco Kurz, made it clear that winning the FFA Cup was special, but his goal was to make it to the A-League final. His confidence going into the game against the Mariners was shown by his choice of an attacking 4-5-1 formation up against a conservative 4-4-2 for the home side.
Both sides were sitting on two points before Sunday’s match, but many may have considered the Mariners’ lucky to come away with a point from their first two season 2018-19 A-League games, whereas Adelaide may have been considered unlucky not to have six points at the end of round 2. Adelaide had won its last three matches at Central Coast Stadium, in fact, they’d won seven out of their past 10 games, and were undefeated in their past four matches. Mulvey said he wanted the three points for the home side, but could they do it when Adelaide had scoring weapons like Craig Goodwin?
Running towards the palm trees in the first 45 minutes, the Mariners tried to keep possession, but Adelaide found their way through the home side’s midfield too easily. Adelaide’s scoring machine, Craig Goodwin, took full advantage of the Mariners’ early weakness with a goal at the eighth minute. Tommy Oar tried to respond with a through ball intended for Captain, Matt Simon, but it was miss-timed, and that characterised Oar’s whole 90-minute game. McGlinchy was one of the Mariner’s strongest performers on the day, consistently attempting to set up shots on goal, but the box was often full of nothing but white shirts, and this was the pink round. Adelaide striker, Apostolos Stamatelopoulos, scored in the 15th minute, catching all four Mariners’ defenders missing in action, and keeper, Ben Kennedy, off his line.
Corners and free kicks gave the Coast opportunities that they were not able to maximise. Galloway and Goodwin put on an excellent display of teamwork down the visitor’s left flank that couldn’t be matched by the Mariners. The home side’s weakness throughout the first half continued to be in the midfield and defence. A free kick out of a yellow card to Stamatelopoulos and a home side corner still didn’t result in a goal for the Coast during the last 10 minutes of the fi rst half. McGlinchy and Cisse set up a chance for Simon from a corner, but he kicked it into the side of the net.
Goodwin out ran defender, Kye Rowles, again but was fortunately blown offside, so Adelaide missed out on achieving their fi rst-ever third goal away from home in a first half. The Central Coast continued to create scoring opportunities in the dying minutes of the fi rst half, but the Adelaide defence remained unbreakable. A dejected Central Coast Mariners headed to the change rooms 0-2 and defender, Anthony Golec, told the Fox Sport crew that he thought the home side’s performance was “terrible”. Mulvey’s half-time change room message was short, if not sweet, he spent most of the break on the sideline giving instructions to, Connor Pain. “At half time, I asked the lads to have a good think about what had happened in the first half and if anybody didn’t think that they could be part of a winning team in the second half, to stay in the dressing room,” Mulvey said.
“We talk about home truths and we made a little bit of a change but at the end of the day it is about performances, we have to earn the trust of the Central Coast public and we need to do that with performances on the park,” he said. Post-match he said he gave the squad time to think over what he’d had to say. Mulvey decided to substitute, Tom Hiariej, for, Andrew Hoole, at half time, on the basis that he believed the squad needed more strength in the centre midfi eld. The Coast’s performance did lift in the second half, and they only conceded one more goal, but several key players, particularly, Tommy Oar, still did not appear to be fi ring on all cylinders. A keeper error resulted in Adelaide’s Goodwin scoring his second goal of the match (and seventh in seven games) at the 55th minute.
Shortly after, the VAR failed to take any interest when Referee, Alex King, declined to give the Mariners a clear penalty for a hand ball, which could have a resulted in at least one face-saving goal for the home side. At the 70th minute, the crowd saw, Tommy Oar’s, potential, when he bounded towards goal but chose to pass back for Simon to take the shot, which missed the target again. Mulvey remained refreshingly decisive, using his final substitution to replace McGlinchy with Matt Millar’s fresh legs. Successive corners and free kicks still didn’t result in a change of luck for the Central Coast Mariners. O’Neill had a crack and missed at the 75th minute. Oar had another chance at around the 80th minute, but could not fire a shot on target. Kye Rowles had to stave off a late Adelaide shot, and the Mariners managed to retain the 0-3 score line during four minutes of extra time.
Speaking after their win, Adelaide Coach, Marco Kurz, said his side’s plan was to use the holes in the Mariners’ midfi eld and defence. “It was our plan because we know the spaces in the back four line, we trained and that was very good from our side and I am very happy,” Kurz said. “Absolutely it was a wake-up call but I didn’t see it coming,” Mulvey said of the home side’s defeat. “I thought we trained pretty well during the week, when they came off from the warm up, everyone said it was the best warm up we’d done really,” he said. “In the past this has been normal, the losing three-nil, but we can’t accept that, and I will not accept that, and as I said, I will fi x it on the training paddock and we will get a team ready to go next week.” The Central Coast Mariners go on the road for the next two rounds of the A-League, Playing Melbourne Victory on Sunday, November 11, and Perth Glory on Sunday, November 25.
Offsider
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Not the same game I watched ????
Mcglinchy’s enthusiasm lasted about ten minutes after that he was a passenger........... and very slow and late.
Nobody can say Simon doesn’t try hard ........ he does .......... but his contribution of “huff an’ puff” needs to be more football orientated. Yes he heads on a lot but to nobody in support.
Cards have been dealt, we’ve seen the drop, mm has placed his bet .......... time for the “river” card
Mcglinchy’s enthusiasm lasted about ten minutes after that he was a passenger........... and very slow and late.
Nobody can say Simon doesn’t try hard ........ he does .......... but his contribution of “huff an’ puff” needs to be more football orientated. Yes he heads on a lot but to nobody in support.
Cards have been dealt, we’ve seen the drop, mm has placed his bet .......... time for the “river” card
Ancient Mariner
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Pedantry.
You mean "flop" not "drop", and we need to see the turn before the river.
You mean "flop" not "drop", and we need to see the turn before the river.
JoyfulPenguin
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For maybe the first ten minutes McGlinchey offered something, but beyond that he was a liability.
nebakke
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I might as well start another argument because I'm still smarting here but as the self-appointed resident Dane, I'd like to point out that you're right and Australian referees of all, should be well aware of that, even if I also think that it's a ridiculous approach.
The one for last weekend mainly smarts so much because it feels like they're awarded every other week in this league.
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