Response to Michael Cokerill's article in Sydney Morning Herald on Dec 21

[midfielder]

Out of left field ... The year we made a profit and had our best average crowd was when we had a marquee ... Aloisi put bums on seats... Tis it time to sign Bresh or Goldman... Just thinking..

 

[Gratis]

I honestly think it would help

but the cost of the player might very well be more than the coin made by those extra bums on seats, my guess at why we haven't gone down that path. that and the team unity thing

 

[MagpieMariner]

I believe Aloisi was signed as an injury replacement, not a marquee. I don't know if that makes any difference as far as coin goes, but it didn't seem to damage team unity, we made the GF that year. It made the FFA change the rules too, now your replacements have to be like-for-like. I don't know (or can't remember) who Aloisi replaced, but it sure wasn't a striker.

 

[rbakersmith]

I believe Aloisi was signed as an injury replacement, not a marquee. I don't know if that makes any difference as far as coin goes, but it didn't seem to damage team unity, we made the GF that year. It made the FFA change the rules too, now your replacements have to be like-for-like. I don't know (or can't remember) who Aloisi replaced, but it sure wasn't a striker.

Yep, he was an "injury replacement" from Round 10 for Matthew Osman; likewise Damien Mori allegedly replaced Paul O'Grady.

 

[sydmariner]

Out of left field ... The year we made a profit and had our best average crowd was when we had a marquee ... Aloisi put bums on seats... Tis it time to sign Bresh or Goldman... Just thinking..

who's goldman

 

[gull]

. how are we meant to improve our crowds or viewing audiences if our games are always scheduled at times that will help neither. the figures are then used to justify those decisions and it becomes self fulfilling

The thing that I don't get about this us that the club would have signed off on the draw. How can they agree to the draw this year when they want increased crowds, or are they deliberately trying to reduce crowds to justify moving future games away.

 

[rbakersmith]

The thing that I don't get about this us that the club would have signed off on the draw. How can they agree to the draw this year when they want increased crowds, or are they deliberately trying to reduce crowds to justify moving future games away.

It's not like the clubs get a great deal of latitude with the schedule - so long as Fox Sports are paying the bills they'll push for games that they know are going to be high raters in the Sat night slots.

 

[Paolo]

It's not like the clubs get a great deal of latitude with the schedule - so long as Fox Sports are paying the bills they'll push for games that they know are going to be high raters in the Sat night slots.

Venue availability played a huge role this year with Asian Cup

 

[bikinigirl]

The thing that I don't get about this us that the club would have signed off on the draw. How can they agree to the draw this year when they want increased crowds, or are they deliberately trying to reduce crowds to justify moving future games away.

. it certainly adds to the theory doesn't it

It's not like the clubs get a great deal of latitude with the schedule - so long as Fox Sports are paying the bills they'll push for games that they know are going to be high raters in the Sat night slots.

. yet they have made a point in previous years of fighting for (and getting some) changes ... and this year not even an argument for keeping the new years eve game (which rarely takes a prime saturday night slot - like this year)

Venue availability played a huge role this year with Asian Cup

. and i still don't understand how this effects the NYE game as was reported

 

[rbakersmith]

. yet they have made a point in previous years of fighting for (and getting some) changes ... and this year not even an argument for keeping the new years eve game (which rarely takes a prime saturday night slot - like this year)

The suggestion was made by Bruce in the podcast a while back that we were given the 27th in return for giving up the NYE game this year.

 

[bikinigirl]

The suggestion was made by Bruce in the podcast a while back that we were given the 27th in return for giving up the NYE game this year.

. doesn't really inspire me

. oh and as an aside ... was that the podcast where bruce stated they were trying to expand their base into the northern part of brisbane?

 

[gull]

It's not like the clubs get a great deal of latitude with the schedule - so long as Fox Sports are paying the bills they'll push for games that they know are going to be high raters in the Sat night slots.

Agreed, but they do get some input into the scheduling given comments from the club in the past.

This year's draw isn't going to help averages with 5 Sunday games (2 at 3pm...), no home games for nearly a month, no NYE game and two games in Sydney. Add to this that we only have one home game against our three nearest neighbours and it will surely drop.

Having said that I actually think the crowds we've had for our Sunday matches so far have been good compared to previous years.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

The thing that I don't get about this us that the club would have signed off on the draw. How can they agree to the draw this year when they want increased crowds, or are they deliberately trying to reduce crowds to justify moving future games away.

This has had me baffled also. Terrible draw. No NYE. Games to NSO. Reduced engagement. yet all I hear is that the "Coast need to show their support if they want this club" The Coast has shown it's support potential many times. And if they want to increase the numbers - they need to keep working.

When I see Mariners upcoming games and branding all over Erina Fair, Westfield Tuggerah and maybe Terrigal aswell, I'll consider they might be doing all they can. Until then, the reality is a high proportion of Coasties have no idea when we are even playing - and yet there is constant complaints about crowd numbers. This is a huge disconnect imo.

 

[Big Al]

CCM to FFA we want to play 2 games at NSO and 1 a Brookie.
FFA sure but we will screw you for the rest of the draw to suit fox and screw means we will have your NYE game as well