Rd 10 South Gosford FC V Central Coast Mariners

[Ironbark]

We took it to the best team in the comp with some good play. A reassuring performance.
Shame we didn't have the teeth for a bite.

Sydney are good enough that they don't feel the need to press us high all game which gives us more time on the ball. I think a lesser team that pressed us harder would have disrupted what we were doing and we would have had a worse game.

Would have loved to have seen the same game with Oar on for Clisby. I hadn't considered he might have signed elsewhere for the season... could f'n we'll be the case too

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Just finally watched the goal - out of our entire back line, only Rowles actually did anything. We even had mids in the back line.
Literally 5 players were ball watching and got caught out by the quick free kick.
Just appalling.
Biri also took that one badly - he couldn't decide whether to go for the ball or a player so he did neither and inexplicably dived across the face of the ball. I can't even imagine what he was trying to accomplish there.
It's interesting to hear comments on hear about how we had chances going begging - and apparently more chances than SFC.
Even against AU - we created more chances they did. So, we can make the chances - and creating the chances against the best defensive team in the league is not to be scoffed at.
Obviously it's the finishing - but can't complain too hard about that as we're trying a new striker who hasn't played in a long time.
So, sounds like that's positive.
On paper we should have been absolutely smashed. The team with the worst defence only conceding 1 against the team with the best attack is solid.

We need Fox. He has a bit of pace - and our back line is painfully slow. I'd love to know what the hell happened off-the-pitch for one of our best defenders to get dumped in favour for one of our worst. Two of our worst, if you consider RT on the bench.

 

[turbo]

I’m not buying in to any speculation around Oar. First and foremost I would hope the club has the maturity not to toss its toys if a player signs elsewhere provided that player is giving us their all and there is no sign that’s an issue for Oar. If it’s fair to do that then it’s fair for anyone that hasn’t got an extension or even upgraded deal in some cases to treat the club just as poorly. That example cuts both ways.
Secondly it’s a dumb move, Oar would be one of our higher paid players and we already missed a bunch of match time with him last year, why cut out another chance to get value and points? We shouldn’t be proud enough to be that dumb.

If Oar is outbound then I’m sure we can find a suitable replacement and funnel some extra funds to other key spots

 

[shipwreck]

Yeh I agree, I can't see Staj being that petty or stupid, Oar will be back next week.

Agree Silvera needs a rest, he hasn't really done much since the Perth game.

 

[BrisRecky]

So can Lewis Miller play in Crapsby possie ?...that way foxy stays on his normal side......also being a technical nitwit can someone explain why Zig, Kim and Kye played okon ball across the back line for the first 20 mins?

 

[Pirate Pete]

So can Lewis Miller play in Crapsby possie ?...that way foxy stays on his normal side......also being a technical nitwit can someone explain why Zig, Kim and Kye played okon ball across the back line for the first 20 mins?

I'm pretty sure Miller is right footed. I think it would be a big ask to get him to play on the left.
I don't that would be fair on the kid at all. Could ruin his confidence

 

[BaysideMariner]

I actually thought Djuric had his worst game in our colours. Some beautiful long ball interspersed with too many passes given away. Ditto with Rowles. For a guy who has a ninety percent passing completion rate that ten percent is a real howler and puts the defence under so much pressure.

Silvera needs a spell on the bench after the last couple of games, most probably for Oar.

Kim, Stensness and Gordon the standouts.

Now here is the question: Was Oar out because of a virus or because he has signed with Macarthur?

A virus is a very generic type of statement for his absence.

Silvera cuts back inside almost everytime he got the ball. I was thinking he was either under instructions or he didn't want to play in the wide role yesterday.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

As AM says the TV didn’t show off the ball

Clisby is definitely at fault for the initial lapse no doubt. He is caught out by not quite understanding his role in the system Staj had planned. It happens especially early in a new formation. It did seem a weak quick free kick that we turned into an opportunity for them.

However recovery is a part of the defending and there just wasn’t any from ziggy and Kim. If Rowles can get to Grant those two should be getting back as well.

I agree. Except I’m not sure it’s just the system as he’s been caught out plenty in a back four also, But as to Kim and Ziggy’s reaction, this will always be an issue in such cases. Rowles has fast acceleration but Ziggy and Kim do not. If king or Grant did what Clisby did, the slower Wilko would struggle to recover and look bad too.

Anyway, said my piece on Clisby. I think he would be dropped by any other HAL side. I thought he would cost us again and within five minutes he at the very least is most culpable for the champions only real chance. Was a real shame to get nothing from that.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

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The clip is in the my football app news story about the game. Only place I’ve seen it and I just watched it a few times. Clisby missed Grants run which was a big mistake but Ziggy and Kim were totally caught out, I don’t think they were aware Kosta was lurking behind them well offside. Rowles was with ALF but elected to go to the man with the ball id assume hoping that the others would be able to cover him.

Love this post. Can’t respond now but look forward to discussing it.

 

[MagpieMariner]

Yeh I agree, I can't see Staj being that petty or stupid, Oar will be back next week.

We didn't drop Painey or the Scuumer last year after they signed elsewhere, so why would we do it this year with a player who's arguably better than either of them?

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Just finally watched the goal - out of our entire back line, only Rowles actually did anything. We even had mids in the back line.
Literally 5 players were ball watching and got caught out by the quick free kick.
Just appalling.
Biri also took that one badly - he couldn't decide whether to go for the ball or a player so he did neither and inexplicably dived across the face of the ball. I can't even imagine what he was trying to accomplish there.
It's interesting to hear comments on hear about how we had chances going begging - and apparently more chances than SFC.
Even against AU - we created more chances they did. So, we can make the chances - and creating the chances against the best defensive team in the league is not to be scoffed at.
Obviously it's the finishing - but can't complain too hard about that as we're trying a new striker who hasn't played in a long time.
So, sounds like that's positive.
On paper we should have been absolutely smashed. The team with the worst defence only conceding 1 against the team with the best attack is solid.

We need Fox. He has a bit of pace - and our back line is painfully slow. I'd love to know what the hell happened off-the-pitch for one of our best defenders to get dumped in favour for one of our worst. Two of our worst, if you consider RT on the bench.

True, but it could easily have been snuffed out. It wasn’t just taken fast, it was taken fast with clear purpose.

Did you listen to Brattan pre game when asked what they would do...

He said they’d watched a lot of us and identified where we think they’re vulnerable and we can create space to attack. First chance they get, bang straight down Clisby’s side, imo that’s why they were able to be so fast. They knew exactly what they wanted to do already. Grant you get in behind Clisby, forwards as soon as he makes that run you go hard onto the box - one near post one far. Simple and perfect.

They clearly figured it out based on our recent performances. Watch those gahex Clisby is obviously the slowest to recover and players have been getting in behind him almost at will. Good coaching by Corica but was also a no brainer.

As to Birra, good proper runs killed him, damned either way, but no choice, you can’t leave your near post open with grant in that position and someone making a run near post.

 

[Wombat]

I actually thought Djuric had his worst game in our colours. Some beautiful long ball interspersed with too many passes given away. Ditto with Rowles. For a guy who has a ninety percent passing completion rate that ten percent is a real howler and puts the defence under so much pressure.

Silvera needs a spell on the bench after the last couple of games, most probably for Oar.

Kim, Stensness and Gordon the standouts.

Now here is the question: Was Oar out because of a virus or because he has signed with Macarthur?

A virus is a very generic type of statement for his absence.

I agree Mick, Duric wasn’t great but his average game is better and more dangerous than all of our other mids combined.
DDS was better than last week but he is still frustrating.

 

[Big Al]

I agree. Except I’m not sure it’s just the system as he’s been caught out plenty in a back four also, But as to Kim and Ziggy’s reaction, this will always be an issue in such cases. Rowles has fast acceleration but Ziggy and Kim do not. If king or Grant did what Clisby did, the slower Wilko would struggle to recover and look bad too.

Anyway, said my piece on Clisby. I think he would be dropped by any other HAL side. I thought he would cost us again and within five minutes he at the very least is most culpable for the champions only real chance. Was a real shame to get nothing from that.

Agree but was only discussing the play not clisby as a whole.

As you said in the other post he is being caught out alot and SFC clearly targeted him. Smart coaching as you said.

Not sure LB’s are that easy to find however with our poor use of imports like McGlinchy it might be something worth investing in if we can’t find and Aussie for next year

 

[Ironbark]

Silvera looked cooked last night and needed subbing when the time came. I wondered at the time if he was also ill or carrying an injury

 

[BaysideMariner]

Agree but was only discussing the play not clisby as a whole.

As you said in the other post he is being caught out alot and SFC clearly targeted him. Smart coaching as you said.

Not sure LB’s are that easy to find however with our poor use of imports like McGlinchy it might be something worth investing in if we can’t find and Aussie for next year

Look at the Adelaide LB to see how a good import can make a difference in a specialist position.

 

[Ads]

Is there any examination footage of the exact moment the ball is passed to Grant for their goal?
(As in with both in frame like when looking at a possible offside)?

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Is there any examination footage of the exact moment the ball is passed to Grant for their goal?
(As in with both in frame like when looking at a possible offside)?

No, but here's a still from Kayo - he's well onside here, and this was after the kick so he was even more onside. The VAR would have checked it.

 

[Big Al]

Look at the Adelaide LB to see how a good import can make a difference in a specialist position.

He’s class

 

[style_cafe]

Fox really pissed off Staj..... Not even making the bench any more.
Kim captain.

Looks like a back four of Ziggy, Rowley's, GG and Clisby.

Totally agree about Fox, even though he played well early on he has to be on his way out.
Could be a transfer out in January...

 

[turbo]

It can’t just be about his performance on the pitch, to be dropped from starting to off the team sheet for weeks. Something must have gone down behind the scenes. A release seems plausible, possibly the only one I can see going unless we already have other deals done. Can’t see us doing a mutual termination with Mcglinchey. Simons bench/fringe role looks safe for now.