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R22: Mariners v Glory

Roy Law

Well-Known Member
Monty!
The Mariners did not deserve to lose this and an utterly unambitious Perth did not deserve to win it so Nick Montgomery’s late howitzer made for a fair result. Both sides seemed to be playing as if it was a meaningless end of season game which it pretty much was for the Mariners but Perth were utterly pathetic for a team supposed to be challenging for top honours.
When the flying Superman Liam Reddy got just a feather of a finger tip to deflect Marinkovic’s drive onto the bar you might have thought Perth would have been emboldened to take the game to the Mariners but they didn’t. They were awful. It was the Mariners’ midfield with the biting tackling of Montgomery, the calm play of Hutchinson and the dancing feet of Caceres that controlled most of the play. Bringing the skilful Ferreira and the lively Cernak into the game they gave it a good go – but there is nothing up front to take advantage; Nick Fitzgerald simply cannot score goals.
He came close when a flowing move gave him a chance from the edge of the box but his decent left foot effort was just wide and then after a great run from Ferreira he dispossessed the clumsy Djulbic and almost rounded the keeper but in the wet conditions he could not quite squeeze enough on the shot and the ball bounced off the post to safety.
Drama hit the Mariners when the feisty Poscoliero limped off with a recurrence of the hamstring injury suffered last week against Adelaide. Rose went to CB and Mat Sim came in at LB and still Perth did nothing to exploit the weakness. Cernak got a yellow for an embarrassing dive and Morton, often struggling for air in a rare first team appearance made an excellent intervention at the far post.
Fitzgerald was at it again in the opening minutes of the second half, a splendid run met by Cernak’s equally good pass, but without the confidence to shoot first time he dragged it back to his left and hit the shot horribly wide.
Caceres was producing the most extraordinary skills to the delight of the crowd but the Mariners were not troubling Jack Duncan in goal. Kalik came on for Cernak who received appreciative applause from the crowd for his spirited effort. Reddy swept splendidly when Anderson slipped base over apex on the wet surface to deny McLaren but in the 78th minute McLaren got the break when the Mariners’ weakened central defence could not stop him winning a header from a corner, getting in front of Kalik and Reddy to find the back of the net. It was a dispiriting moment as the Mariners did not deserve to be behind.
Perth’s lack of ambition let them down as they dropped deep and allowed the Mariners to come forward. Caceres had a chance blocked after good work by Kalik. Major came on for Hutchinson, and then Montgomery lit up the stadium and brought justice to the score line with a rocket of a drive to the top corner of the Perth Glory net.
The Mariners were gutsy today but have no edge up front; if Major and Bingham are not good enough to take the place of Fitzgerald at No. 9 why are they in this Mariners squad? The watching Matt Simon must wonder what is going on. Reddy was excellent today, as was the hard driving hard tackling Monty. Ferreira and Cernak both produced moments of excitement, but the delightful skills of Caceres, so difficult to dispossess, gains him my MoM today
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
Felt good about tonight's game... for me Fitzy needs to be benched if he had a right foot he had two clear shots on goal...
 

nearlyyellow

Well-Known Member
Nick Montgomery’s late howitzer
And wasn't it though! :pirashoot: Replays just remind me of what a powerful shot it was. And the TV shows the joy on his and the others faces which you can't see at the ground, maybe Bay 16 who were right there, but what a shot and what a crowd reaction too. :shoutclap:
 

Wombat

Well-Known Member
Very boring game but the last five minutes were fun.

Reddy cemented his player of the season award today.

Reddy 7.5. Excellent as usual.
Morton 7. Pretty solid game. Not perfect but not bad.
Rose 5. Real mixed back but sketchy overall. Left his post and marked no one when they scored.
Posco 6. Got mugged off when they hit the crossbar but apart from that looked ok.
Ando 5. Not great.
Sim 5.5. Sloppy denfending but overlapped well at times.
Hutcho 6. Solid.
Monty 7. Superb goal. Led from the front.
Caceras 8. Mom. Worked hard. Good movement. Lovely feet and tried to drive us on. Should have had a dig when well positioned a couple of times.
Fab 7. Took a lot of wrong options but is an exciting player. Didn't receive much support.
Cernak 5.5. Did ok but flat footed when looking to receive the ball and didn't show himself enough. Also didn't support the attack at times and was bludging a bit. His worse game in a month for mine.
Fitzy 6. Some nice work but it's crazy playing him as a striker. He is a terrible finisher.
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
You gave Cernak 5.5?

See, this is why I don't read your posts. Back to the ignore button.
 

Forum Phoenix

Well-Known Member
I actually thought that was a very good game of football (Fitzy missed opportunities aside) Always surprises me how differently people can see things.

Monty has to get MOM. But I though Caceres was otherwise best on park today. (Which should make notjustafanofcac happy).

I thought Cernak caused them a lot of headaches and found some excellent space, so really don't see him as having had a poor game, but would be nice to see his final ball become a lot more telling, though neither he (nor Fab) are being helped by the lack of a number 9. Fab was drawing 3 players regularly.

Not really interested in criticising Fitzy. As an attacking mid you'd hope definitely he'd bury those shots, but he just isn't a striker, whereas a striker who continued to miss opportunities like that would indeed need to be moved on.

We're definitely playing better under Walmsley. But without high quality CB's and strikers, we're going to continue to regularly lose games at both ends.

Ando deserved the serve he got today. The needless corner one too many unforced errors.

We need to sign two high quality strikers. But how many times have we said that over the years... o_O
 
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nearlyyellow

Well-Known Member
Cernak caused them a lot of headaches and found some excellent space
I agree with this, particularly in the first half. And PG defence were concentrating on Cernak so much that Ferreira was given a little extra space. Lowe must have pointed that out to them because it didn't happen in the second. I thought Cernak played very creditably, and the PG boys got stuck into him a bit physically. I would have given him at least a 7, so there Wombat. :p Ando, on the other hand, was mostly woeful. What is that little dance on the spot about when he has the ball? All it does is allow the opposition to move their defence around into better positions before Ando releases the pill, 50% of the time passing the problems he has created by his slowness backwards to poor old Rocket Reddy. Who, yes, deserves to be MOM again imo.
 

localpom

Well-Known Member
Well deserved point, which i didn't see us getting once Posco went off and us having to reshuffle the defence. We really are finishing the season with a threadbare squad but i think it will be to our advantage going into next season. Was impressed with young Morton who came in with very little game time at this level. Didn't look out of place at all. MOM would be a toss up between Monty and Caceres for me. Since Walmsley returned we have been very competitive against 4 of the top 6 sides (Sydney, Adelaide,MC, Perth), which is very pleasing considering the situation we are in with limited squad, no coach etc....
Strengthen the squad in the areas required (we all know where!) and we will have a side capable of pushing the top sides next season.
 

BrisRecky

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
I thought Morton had a pretty good game
Perth were toothless, they had holes a truck could drive through and did nothing with them and then they yanked on the handbrake of the bus and Monty shattered eardrums with the sonic boom he created
Cernak wasn't covering as much real estate as he had in his previous sterling efforts.....for the Wanderers game, I'd put Bingham AND Major on....but that's just me
 

MagpieMariner

Well-Known Member
I couldn't work out why Kalik was put in striker when he came on (maybe he wasn't, but that's what it looked like to me, with Fitzy going to the wing.) With a specialist striker on the bench, why put in an AM? Looks like we won't be re-signing Major for next year.
 

soccer mad

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Final third is where it falls apart for us ,the way I see it ,where about three quality player's short of being a decent side again .We need a quality defender who cammands the back line who can communicate and can read the game well ,we'll need another solid defencive mid fielder to fill in for Hutch who will be missed.Caceras should be free to roam more in attack .And lastley we need some serious fire power up front .
 

Gratis

Well-Known Member
i said before we were a striker away from a win. and as FP said that's not Fitzy's fault - he's an attacking mid and that's where he does best.

we created chances but with no striker Perth's defence could concentrate on Ferreira and Cernak making them both less effective. if they had a predatory no. 9 to deal with as well Cernak and Ferreira would have had more space and time on the ball and created even more.

so it looks like the core for next season is shaping up well

Monty, Caceres, Kalik, Ferreira, Cernack must be retained, add to that J. Rose, Neill, Posco and Fitz - who is working hard playing out of position but is quality in position - and the core is good. recruit well around that and we'll be up there for sure
not to forget a new coach will have their own ideas
 

true believer

Well-Known Member
Wombat

Very boring game but the last five minutes were fun.

Reddy cemented his player of the season award today.

Reddy 7.5. Excellent as usual.
Morton 7. Pretty solid game. Not perfect but not bad.
Rose 5. Real mixed back but sketchy overall. Left his post and marked no one when they scored.
rose 7 . rose was out wide picking up Keogh . their No9 just quietly.
Posco 6. Got mugged off when they hit the crossbar but apart from that looked ok.
Ando 5. Not great. not bad and not a 5
Sim 5.5. Sloppy denfending but overlapped well at times.
Hutcho 6. Solid.
Monty 7. Superb goal. Led from the front. mom 8 david who ?
Caceras 8. Mom. Worked hard. Good movement. Lovely feet and tried to drive us on. Should have had a dig when well positioned a couple of times.
Fab 7. Took a lot of wrong options but is an exciting player. Didn't receive much support.
Cernak 5.5. Did ok but flat footed when looking to receive the ball and didn't show himself enough. Also didn't support the attack at times and was bludging a bit. His worse game in a month for mine.
7.5 outstanding .always a threat . some hard work in defence too .
play him at 9 next week.

Fitzy 6. Some nice work but it's crazy playing him as a striker. He is a terrible finisher.
 

Wombat

Well-Known Member
Rose did not pick up very well on the goal. Defensively we are not well drilled but we are tighter than we were earlier in the season.
 

true believer

Well-Known Member
our lads had two of our previous back 4 out and lost posco early .
rose should have left Keogh unmarked and picked up maclearn .who had Morton and kalic on him ?
 

BrisRecky

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
Who was supposed to be on the back post when glory scored from the set bit
 

Wombat

Well-Known Member
our lads had two of our previous back 4 out and lost posco early .
rose should have left Keogh unmarked and picked up maclearn .who had Morton and kalic on him ?

That make up if the back 4 has nothing to with it. rose was picking up no one and should have been on the back post....if he wasn't he should have ensured someone else was. Marking space in the 6yd box doesn't work.
 

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