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[Ancient Mariner]

I’m asking for rebuttals to this concern Ancient, not stating this as my position.

To an extent I don’t think anyone can argue we’re not a poisoned chalice for any coach and so there’s a real possibility that firing Mulvey will only depeens the hole we’re in, but we may have to cop that anyway because he’s failed so badly and as Turbo says when it comes to fans it’s just untenable.

Again, was trying to open discussion on this to hear opinions. I’m actually not pro Mulvey staying, but I do fear we’re in a lose lose.

Disagree was the closest thing I could find to a "no".

Ok for a rebuttal, He has had a good chance to pick a squad of his own choosing. Massive fail.

He has taken ages to work out somewhere close who were the worthwhile players to start, but still has not got that right.

His back 3 structure without wingbacks is just unworkable. It gives an extra player in attack but does not work in defence. Then his answer is to pack everyone in the box and pray.

He really has failed in every category and must go.

Compared to Okon's second year for what may be classed as similar circumstances. Crap previous season, massive turn around in players.

Okon's recruitment was good apart from the lack of a striker. if Asdrubal had been O'Donovan, Okon would still be here.

Mariners were a basket case then, but Okon was still able to recruit good players.

If we sign a competent manager, players will come.

If we keep Mulvey, I can see us losing Aspro, Tommy, O'Neill (supposedly already gone), and Pain. In fact I would not be surprised if these players are not already in negotiations elsewhere if not already signed.

Give Mulvey another year and I can see the next big announcement of signings for next year as being Hoole and Kennedy getting 2 or 3 year contracts.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

Or, in one sentence the disruption of another changeover, no matter how bad, cannot be worse than living with what we have now.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Tommy and O'Neill are gone

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Disagree was the closest thing I could find to a "no".

Ok for a rebuttal, He has had a good chance to pick a squad of his own choosing. Massive fail.

He has taken ages to work out somewhere close who were the worthwhile players to start, but still has not got that right.

His back 3 structure without wingbacks is just unworkable. It gives an extra player in attack but does not work in defence. Then his answer is to pack everyone in the box and pray.

He really has failed in every category and must go.

Compared to Okon's second year for what may be classed as similar circumstances. Crap previous season, massive turn around in players.

Okon's recruitment was good apart from the lack of a striker. if Asdrubal had been O'Donovan, Okon would still be here.

Mariners were a basket case then, but Okon was still able to recruit good players.

If we sign a competent manager, players will come.

If we keep Mulvey, I can see us losing Aspro, Tommy, O'Neill (supposedly already gone), and Pain. In fact I would not be surprised if these players are not already in negotiations elsewhere if not already signed.

Give Mulvey another year and I can see the next big announcement of signings for next year as being Hoole and Kennedy getting 2 or 3 year contracts.

Gotcha. Love it, great post. Agree on all counts.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Tommy and O'Neill are gone

This opinion or have you heard something specific?

 

[Ancient Mariner]

Tommy and O'Neill are gone

I would put good money on a bet that Aspro will be next. However I do not think I would be offered very good odds.

 

[turbo]

I would put good money on a bet that Aspro will be next. However I do not think I would be offered very good odds.

That’s starting to look like a signature move this season, sign emerging or recovering talent to a 1 year deal and have them poached when they impress.

 

[Michael]

Tommy and O'Neill are gone

We’ve all known Aiden will go back to Burnley.
But when it comes to our lord and saviours future. You must elaborate, not make a vague statement. If you have legit news on the situation f**king share it. We all love the bloke here.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

We’ve all known Aiden will go back to Burnley.
But when it comes to our lord and saviours future. You must elaborate, not make a vague statement. If you have legit news on the situation f**king share it. We all love the bloke here.

No, I think he enjoys others begging him for more info when he thinks he has news

 

[FFC Mariner]

It is generally understood that Tommy H wont be here next season
Do i hope thats untrue? Of course

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

It is generally understood that Tommy H wont be here next season
Do i hope thats untrue? Of course

Based on? All we have are fears and assumptions unless I've missed something

 

[MagpieMariner]

My thinking leans toward the fact that he hasn't been re-signed (note my spelling Bikini, lol). I feel that if the club wanted him, an offer would have been made already, and rumours would be around.
I can't imagine why we would not want our most skillful player, especially when he has let it be known that he wants to stay. Unless of course he's been telling porkies like that other one.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

My thinking leans toward the fact that he hasn't been re-signed (note my spelling Bikini, lol). I feel that if the club wanted him, an offer would have been made already,

Yes, but that assumes the football department is the slightest bit competent.. Bit of a mistake.. Forgotten Millar already? Lol
If Nisbet is true (and the other youngsters) then this club has a more serious rot than I realises. I've supported the club through a lot. Repeated unethical behaviour towards players will make me seriously consider whether the club deserves my support.
It's Lachie Wales all over again.[/QUOTE]

 

[Antlion]

On Friday night, Central Coast Mariners will meet Brisbane Roar in a six-pointer as the teams fight to avoid the inglorious history associated with title of the wooden spoon.

Both these teams have had abysmal seasons so far, sharing only three wins from their 38 combined fixtures. The Mariners have somehow managed to have a season worse than last year, when they ended bottom of the table with only 20 points and confirming their status as wooden spooners for the second time in three years.

Fox Sports pundit Robbie Slater said in commentary that although Central Coast are last, they are not close to being the worst team he has seen in the A-League, and he is right. This extends to the Roar and the Wanderers as well; on numerous occasions, each of these teams have performed well enough to take three points but surrendered leads.

The most extreme example of this is the Mariners, who have scored the first goal in 10 of their games and have been leading for roughly 399 minutes in their matches, yet they have only won once this season. It is hard to say this is a categorically bad team when they have led in more than half of their matches so far.

The common reason for both team’s poor displays is their porous defences, which struggle against any A-League attack. Both teams have conceded 43 goals so far this season, with the Mariners still searching for their first clean sheet 20 rounds in.

Brisbane’s disastrous 4-3 loss to Adelaide was a case in point. They had a lead, and a numerical advantage on the pitch, but unforgivably let both go as they threw the match away.

Even though these teams clearly have issues at the back, it is not like they are so irreparable that they are beyond fixing.

Yes, the Roar and Mariners have been on the end of thrashings, but they are not routinely getting swatted away by the rest of the league. They are competing at a similar level to the rest of the field, but just cannot maintain the composure and level-headedness required for the full 90 minutes.
https://dailyfootballshow.com/centr...-avoid-bizarre-australian-sporting-tradition/

 

[pjennings]

My thinking leans toward the fact that he hasn't been re-signed (note my spelling Bikini, lol). I feel that if the club wanted him, an offer would have been made already, and rumours would be around.
I can't imagine why we would not want our most skillful player, especially when he has let it be known that he wants to stay. Unless of course he's been telling porkies like that other one.

That is bordering on blasphemy,

I'm still hopeful that Tom will be here next season. While many clubs are now active we are notoriously slow. Tom wants to stay and you would think would not take the first offer from elsewhere a la Millar. I think he is professional enough (even if we aren't) to come to the club and say he has these offers for next season but would like to stay.

Whether Mulvey values him as much as we all do is the next hurdle. He would have to replace him with someone pretty special not to annoy the few remaining fans.

 

[turbo]

If Nisbet is true (and the other youngsters) then this club has a more serious rot than I realises.

If the Nisbet rumour is true Millar is starting to look like less of a snake and more switched on than anyone gave him credit for.

 

[marinermick]

Anyone at training today? Anyone care anymore? Team?

 

[Antlion]

I get that it would be very tempting to jump out of this sinking ship

 

[finally retired]

If the Nisbet rumour is true Millar is starting to look like less of a snake and more switched on than anyone gave him credit for.

I've obviously missed something here.....what Nisbet rumour?

 

[Antlion]

I've obviously missed something here.....what Nisbet rumour?

That the club may backflip on offering him a professional contract