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Photos from the CCM - MV game Sat night

dibo

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serious14 said:
P.S.   To counter the "why 5.6 over 2.8 at night" argument - I just set a longer exposure time and often shoot with a tripod.  I should clarify I only do this for landscape/architectural shots.

yup. gives a really clean shot of still things, gives some occasionally interesting blurs for sport.
 

serious14

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dibo said:
serious14 said:
P.S.   To counter the "why 5.6 over 2.8 at night" argument - I just set a longer exposure time and often shoot with a tripod.  I should clarify I only do this for landscape/architectural shots.

yup. gives a really clean shot of still things, gives some occasionally interesting blurs for sport.

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Took that of the Reichstag last weekend - I happen to find the blur of those flags interesting..... but I was also pleased at how well the architecture showed up.  If you're skilled enough however to translate said blur into a "winger bursting down the left" hyperspace style effect, then kudos to you.  Havn't successfully managed that yet though (primarily 'cause my seats at Old Trafford are so far away - I'm a cheapskate  :p ).
 

Capn Gus Bloodbeard

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serious14 said:
P.S.   To counter the "why 5.6 over 2.8 at night" argument - I just set a longer exposure time and often shoot with a tripod.  I should clarify I only do this for landscape/architectural shots.

Wide open generally isn't the best to shoot with in terms of sharpness, you typically want to stop down a couple of stops.  For a 5.6, around f/8-11 should give optimum sharpness

dibo said:
though what aperture do you get when you're taking the long lens shots?

This lens has a constant aperture of f/2.8, no matter which focal length I'm using.


dibo said:
Capn Gus Bloodbeard said:
Started off using about 1/1000, ISO 400.  Finished up on 1/500, ISO 1600 after the sun went down.

hasn't grained up so that's not bad.

They did a little (not too badly), but I used the noise reduction in Adobe Lightroom to compensate.  I haven't really figured out the best settings to use, so unfortunately it made the photos a little soft.  I compensated a little by boosting the sharpening, but I'm still not happy.  I'll need to play around a bit more with the optimum settings.

Still, I'm happy with them.  Haven't shot football for ages - I don't bother bringing my camera to Docklands, the seats are just too far away from the bloody field.  I'll bring my camera to Saturday night's game too, get some more shots.

I also haven't tried using slower shutter speeds for sports yet...but it can be used very effectively.
 
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jiggles

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Uhh...I like point and shoots...and uh...like...taking photos from facebook angles. Thats my inout to photography.
 

serious14

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Tbh, I'm surprised you havn't made an album entirely of your Facebook Angle photo's - you've got enough.  :p
 

serious14

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Pft, YOU added ME to Twitter - this meant you had to track me down etc.

Takes one to know one and all that.
 
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jiggles

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I actually have 4 digital cameras, and an SLR on layby (awaiting my summer gigs to pay up!) so not completley clueless.

And currently have over 100 albums on facebook. Doubt I need another one.
 

Arabmariner

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Photographic novice here with a question for you 'experts'  :p

The digital photo's posted here are very good.

My kids school photo's this year are crap.The individual one's are ok but in the class group photo the edges are so clear it looks like the kids are a cut out stuck onto a different background.........it's_too_ sharp and clear........real life vision isn't that clear if you know what I mean ?

What's the photographer doing wrong ?
 

Wombat

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Great pics Capt!!  Couldn't give a toss bout technical shite, suffice to say, whatever you are using...its working.
High quality professional standard pics.  Top Job.
 

Capn Gus Bloodbeard

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Arabmariner said:
Photographic novice here with a question for you 'experts'  :p

The digital photo's posted here are very good.

My kids school photo's this year are crap.The individual one's are ok but in the class group photo the edges are so clear it looks like the kids are a cut out stuck onto a different background.........it's_too_ sharp and clear........real life vision isn't that clear if you know what I mean ?

What's the photographer doing wrong ?
I think I know.

Normally when you take a photo from a DSLR you need to sharpen it on the computer, as the way a DSLR is technically designed means the pics will inevitably be a little soft.  You can generally enable sharpening in the camera, but most people prefer to retain full control and do the sharpening on the computer.

Nothing wrong with that - however, like all manipulations, sharpening is a skill, and you need to know what you're doing.  Otherwise, you can get unwanted artifacts such as halos around the edges, which basically make all the edges look over enhanced and unnatural.

I daresay that's what the problem is - that the photographer (or whoever does the post processing side of things) doesn't know how to sharpen properly - or he's simply used some ridiculous preset for heavy sharpening without having a clue what looks good/bad or what effect it's having.

Not overly surprising - school 'photographers' are often people who have been trained up by an agency for a day or two, enough to get by with the bare minimum of knowledge, much like baby/family photographers you see set up in shopping centres.

I've often seen the same problem in soccer photos too.

So in short, when they've touched it up on the computer they've done a crap job of it.

Wombat said:
Great pics Capt!!  Couldn't give a toss bout technical shite, suffice to say, whatever you are using...its working.
High quality professional standard pics.  Top Job.

Thanks for the kinds words Wombat, and everybody else! :D
 

Arabmariner

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Seems like a logical explanation to me Captain........thanks.

I'm sure if it's a load of old cobblers some smart arse will tell you  ;)
 

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