New academy!!!!!!!

[Blair]

Mariners  The Central Coast Mariners one of a kind youth development pathways and talent identification structures have today been formalised with the launch of the Mariners Academy a Hyundai A-League first for elite young players.
The Mariners Academy will provide a straight-line pathway for aspirant footballers from as young as 8-years-old through to the recently introduced National Youth League and ultimately to the premier level of domestic football in Australia the Hyundai A-League.
The Mariners Academy will operate out of five centres set amongst the Central Coast and its surrounding regions Jubilee Park at Long Jetty, Holland Park at Glenhaven, Epping Boys High, Mills Park at Asquith and Hornsbys Barker College.
At each of these centres, players will receive expert instruction from Mariners Academy coaches with an emphasis on providing an unparalleled professional environment for youngsters to develop their game and grow as players and people.
Each centre will accommodate groups of 16 players at Under 9s, Under 10s, Under 11s, Under 12s, Under 13s and Under 14s age levels, with each group training twice weekly over 12 weeks pre and post Christmas, totaling 32 hours of elite coaching.
In addition to the aforementioned, each player will receive a Mariners branded training kit for the duration of their stay at the Mariners Academy, a Mariners cap, boot bag, drink bottle and detailed feedback report from Mariners Academy coaches at the conclusion of the course.
The Mariners Academy is designed for players to progress through each restricted age level year after year in order to have completed an intense and unique football experience and philosophy with the Mariners, so to be best equipped to progress to the National Youth League and Hyundai A-League in future years.
"The Mariners Academy is a cornerstone element of our ambition to become the centre of excellence for football in Australia," said Mariners Executive Chairman Lyall Gorman.
"Through the Hyundai A-League, we firstly uncovered local talents in Damien Brown, Andrew Clark, Bradley Porter, Andrew Redmayne and Matt Simon amongst others many of which have since gone on to represent their country at youth and senior levels.
"The Mariners Academy is an extension of these already existing pathways and links aspirant footballers on the Central Coast and its surrounding regions to the very top level of Australian football."
The Mariners Academy will promote an emphasis on discipline, punctuality and preparedness, the cornerstones of a professional football career.
Academy coaches will aim to improve players technical ability, understanding of the game and provide the correct activities, practices and feedback to promote learning.
The inaugural Mariners Academy will kick off on Sunday, 19 October to coincide with the Mariners Hyundai A-League 2008/09, Round 8 match at Bluetongue Stadium against the Wellington Phoenix, which all Mariners Academy participants will attend free of charge.
After a short hiatus over Christmas, the Mariners Academy will continue until Sunday, 25 January, when Mariners Academy participants will again receive free admission to a Mariners Hyundai A-League 2008/09 fixture at Bluetongue Stadium against Adelaide United, after taking part in a Mariners Academy Gala Day at Pluim Park.
Selected Mariners Academy graduates will soon compete in domestic and international competitions and an equivalent program for women is currently being developed following the introduction of the Westfield W-League.
"The guarantee of the Mariners Academy is that we will always be working to ensure that the environment we create is the right one for players to develop their game and to grow as positive young people," said Mariners Academy Coaching & Development Manager Tony Walmsley.
"Players can express themselves without fear of mistakes, but we need them to compete, show desire and take pride in their performance.
"The Mariners Academy will set the benchmark in terms of professional organisation with staff committed to developing players and passionate about working for the Mariners."
To apply for a place at the Mariners Academy, players need to have played at A-Grade local level or higher.

How good is this.

 

[Kareem]

is it A grade this year- or A grade in the past?
Also where do they apply?
Note: this if for couple of kids I coach

 

[clarence]

I think you'd have to ring up the Mariners office about the details Kareem. Maybe see if you can have a chat to Damien Brown or Alex Tobin if these kids you know have potential.

 

[Jaza_SFC]

LOL @ "uncovering" Clark and Brown

 

[dibo]

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[Blair]

On the web site (the mariners one ) theres aplication forms.

 

[midfielder]

Interesting to see the three northern sydney sites. Also Epping Boys thats were Wilko went to school good to see old boy retuens to school a professional footballer.

Only slight trouble I have with it is the $ 750.00, meaning kids without parents that can spare this money will misss out. But I also realise someone has to pay the coaches provide the equipment and so on so it not an easy thing to set up something of this size without costs.

 

[Gav...]

great to see that they are setting this up in the norh west sydney areas (hornsby, epping, asquith) because that area has a number of mariners fans and this will be an opportunity for the mariners to be more promoted in those areas

 

[clarence]

LOL @ "uncovering" Clark and Brown

Ssshhhhh! Don't mention that Browny was an established player  ( for NEWCASTLE) before the start of the A-League!  :ashamed:

 

[Bear]

LOL @ "uncovering" Clark and Brown

Ssshhhhh! Don't mention that Browny was an established player  ( for NEWCASTLE) before the start of the A-League!  :ashamed:

"Through the Hyundai A-League, we firstly uncovered local talents in Damien Brown, Andrew Clark, Bradley Porter, Andrew Redmayne and Matt Simon amongst others many of which have since gone on to represent their country at youth and senior levels"

he is right, as those players were discovered, in the a-league, by the central coast

 

[clarence]

Browny was playing for the evil empire aka Con's mob before the NSL closed. Isn't that the senior level too (though not at national reps honours)? Was an established player like Mrdja, Gumprecht, Spencer etc. Only discovery - was that they found out that Browny was originally from the Central Coast. Used that connection to market the team to the community. Was their first signing .

 

[FFC Mariner]

Interesting to see the three northern sydney sites. Also Epping Boys thats were Wilko went to school good to see old boy retuens to school a professional footballer.

Only slight trouble I have with it is the $ 750.00, meaning kids without parents that can spare this money will misss out. But I also realise someone has to pay the coaches provide the equipment and so on so it not an easy thing to set up something of this size without costs.

Somewhat headline grabbing sponsorship opportunity for the Marinators club perhaps??? Some disadvantaged CC kid gets given a break.............

 

[Bladesman]

Interesting, so now we have the CCFA, NSW HPU, Four Four Two, Soccer Pro's Future Pro and now the Mariners Academy which are all looking to develop the "Elite" players.  Although we have lots of good juniors on the coast I am not sure how many players will be available for the inaugral academy as a number of the others have been up and running for a few years and are already up and running this year with their players.

 

[Rowdy]

Very, very valid point.

The Mariners should be charging a big fat $0.00 and use the big picture mentality. (they pay 4 there kit, take it with them when they go or grow out of it, thats it)

If they took this 'Fee-Free' approach they would achieve their goals in a far shorter period of time, in that they would be getting the 'best of the best' kids at their (the Mariners) choice & discretion.

These kids would ALL be working their respective arses off, otherwise they would be politely shown the door and the 'next best' takes the spot.

Totally avoids:

• the 'undisciplined kid'
• the kid with some abillity but 'hey i'm in the CCM Academy attitude' bcause mum/dad could afford it over some kid that was better than his kid but couldn't afford it
• discover great kids from lower socio-economic backgrounds  that might not of ever considered playing higher level football
• the 'obnoxious parent' with unrealistic expectations of the CCMFC because 'HEY I PAID!'
• the 'obnoxious parent' with unrealistic expectations of the KID because 'HEY I PAID!'

The kids would probably be to young to be held in 2-3 yr 'contracts' so to speak (I'm not a leagle-eagle but someone who is might be able 2 have an opinion on this aspect) BUT could be 'tied' into a Central Coast Minnows esq. club by 'registration', that could be playing in the NSW Premier Youth League. Signing 'playing agreements' for these 2-3 years leaving them unable to play for other clubs unless released from the development program/'club' by the Mariners.

I myself have just HAD 2 PAY a ridiculous $300  to Central Coast Football just to get a release for my daughter from the U16 Girls Thunder so if she decides to play for another Sydney club or go back to local league she can. After playing NSW Premier League since she was 10 , she broke her leg and had a year playing local last year but then wanted to play reps again and wound up in this shit program. The U16 Thunder Girls team was hastily formed a couple of months b4 the comp started, she played a couple of trials, they were flogged 12-0 in their first game in the NNSW Prem League, then 2 players dropped out, parent meetings discussing abandonment of the team as the total squad size was now down to just "11 players"(99% of the team had yet 2 pay their fees).

My daughter just wanted OUT bcause she thought it was unfair on her parents to have to pay $550 to learn how to 'trap and pass a ball' & not "keep kicking up field",which is where 90% of the teams skills resided at and she had already learned this basic stuff playing U7's at Wyoming from dear old Dad. She said 'dad dont pay the $300', I had to explain to her that no other club, even a syd club would be able to register you bcause your still tied to CCF until they give you a full unconditional release.(rant ova)

A 'Fee-Free' Academy would have the 'best o/t best' abandoning Lightning's $950 season, Gump's Future/Soccer Pro, Hutcho's Arsenal Soccer Academy, 442, CCF's Target 11 and Thunder programs etc, etc. They'd all still survive, because the Mariners would be limited to the 'best16', leaving those kids on the fringe to be bettering their chances for selection 'next year' by enrolling themselves in one of the previous mentioned type of programmes if they wish to develop & stay in the race

 

[pjennings]

While I agree with your sentiments the academies won't run themselves. There are 480 (30 squads of 16) players that will be under the auspices of the academies. Total cost to the parents is $360,000.

I would love to see a 'fee free - best of the best' setup, but I think we would need to find another kind benefactor. The current shareholders have put their money up with the hope to eventually turn a profit (or at least not continue to lose money). This is something that thankfully has been achieved. I just can't see the current owners - who seem very savvy spending all of the last years profit in underwriting all the costs of the academies. 

   

 

[FFC Mariner]

I expect that if some kid comes along who is the next big thing, CCM would be smart enough to waive the costs in an attempt to keep the kid at our academy.

When/if Scum and Bling copy our model, there will be competition for the best kids.

Also, I seem to dimly recall that kids under 18 cant sign contracts (unless for necessities or apprenticeships etc) but that may not be the case now.

You can bet your left one that CCM are across all the rules/law that applies to young sports people and will work v hard to keep a kid involved if the think they are good enough.

I would also expect that any v talented kids will get fast tracked to the CCM junior development program which is presumably at no cost to the families???

 

[midfielder]

I gotta come down more on Rowdy side ............ its not that a fee in itself but that it is 725.00 for 12 two hour lessons .Hrrrrrrrrrrr seems a tad more than cost recovery ......... more a profit centre.

 

[marinersman]

Agree with bladesman, rowdy and midfielder.

There are a million very poorly run academies out there (not suggesting any of them are/are not on the coast, just generalising) that are just in it for a buck.

If CCMFC want to attract the best kids into their youth set ups, costs must be incurred by the Mariners. We're trying to build our future and therefore existence and the best way to do that is through juniors. If the club can't afford to sponsor it, many, many potential stars will be lost to other academies/money making schools/ state league clubs, choppers/scum etc

Doesn't matter how talented your kid is or how much you want him/her to make it, if parents can't afford it, they can't afford it. It's exactly the same principle as Universities.

 

[Blair]

Very, very valid point.

The Mariners should be charging a big fat $0.00 and use the big picture mentality. (they pay 4 there kit, take it with them when they go or grow out of it, thats it)

If they took this 'Fee-Free' approach they would achieve their goals in a far shorter period of time, in that they would be getting the 'best of the best' kids at their (the Mariners) choice & discretion.

These kids would ALL be working their respective arses off, otherwise they would be politely shown the door and the 'next best' takes the spot.

Totally avoids:

• the 'undisciplined kid'
• the kid with some abillity but 'hey i'm in the CCM Academy attitude' bcause mum/dad could afford it over some kid that was better than his kid but couldn't afford it
• discover great kids from lower socio-economic backgrounds  that might not of ever considered playing higher level football
• the 'obnoxious parent' with unrealistic expectations of the CCMFC because 'HEY I PAID!'
• the 'obnoxious parent' with unrealistic expectations of the KID because 'HEY I PAID!'

The kids would probably be to young to be held in 2-3 yr 'contracts' so to speak (I'm not a leagle-eagle but someone who is might be able 2 have an opinion on this aspect) BUT could be 'tied' into a Central Coast Minnows esq. club by 'registration', that could be playing in the NSW Premier Youth League. Signing 'playing agreements' for these 2-3 years leaving them unable to play for other clubs unless released from the development program/'club' by the Mariners.

I myself have just HAD 2 PAY a ridiculous $300  to Central Coast Football just to get a release for my daughter from the U16 Girls Thunder so if she decides to play for another Sydney club or go back to local league she can. After playing NSW Premier League since she was 10 , she broke her leg and had a year playing local last year but then wanted to play reps again and wound up in this shit program. The U16 Thunder Girls team was hastily formed a couple of months b4 the comp started, she played a couple of trials, they were flogged 12-0 in their first game in the NNSW Prem League, then 2 players dropped out, parent meetings discussing abandonment of the team as the total squad size was now down to just "11 players"(99% of the team had yet 2 pay their fees).

My daughter just wanted OUT bcause she thought it was unfair on her parents to have to pay $550 to learn how to 'trap and pass a ball' & not "keep kicking up field",which is where 90% of the teams skills resided at and she had already learned this basic stuff playing U7's at Wyoming from dear old Dad. She said 'dad dont pay the $300', I had to explain to her that no other club, even a syd club would be able to register you bcause your still tied to CCF until they give you a full unconditional release.(rant ova)

A 'Fee-Free' Academy would have the 'best o/t best' abandoning Lightning's $950 season, Gump's Future/Soccer Pro, Hutcho's Arsenal Soccer Academy, 442, CCF's Target 11 and Thunder programs etc, etc. They'd all still survive, because the Mariners would be limited to the 'best16', leaving those kids on the fringe to be bettering their chances for selection 'next year' by enrolling themselves in one of the previous mentioned type of programmes if they wish to develop & stay in the race

Hopfully there scolarships, like the bozzship. hahaha

 

[RADINHO]

A make money scheme it sounds like.