National Youth League Fixtures and Mariners youth team discussion

[FFC Mariner]

Someone remind me why we got rid of Matt Hatch.

Not good enough for the squad we had then.
Starts now though
Don't forget Perth didn't play him either

 

[sydmariner]

He wasn't a league level

Scored with his 1st ever touch didn’t he?.

 

[Stuartmcateer]

Scored with his 1st ever touch didn’t he?.

But struggled with everything after that 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[sydmariner]

 

[priorpeter]

Someone remind me why we got rid of Matt Hatch.

We offered him a 1 year deal but he was desperate for 2 years, as he’d been going from year to year since he was 15/16 and wanted a bit of security. Perth offered him 2 years and he took it, opportunity for a fresh start and to get out of his bubble. Sadly wasn’t training well over there and didn’t get any opportunities, cut loose after 1 season. At least they paid out the final year of his contract.

 

[priorpeter]

But struggled with everything after that 🤷🏻‍♂️

4 goals in 391 minutes in the league after that first one - a goal every 97.75 minutes. A decent return.

By no means anywhere near the most technically proficient player but was an absolute pace merchant, a pain in the arse against tiring defenders, with some sort of end product.

 

[FFC Mariner]

4 goals in 391 minutes in the league after that first one - a goal every 97.75 minutes. A decent return.

By no means anywhere near the most technically proficient player but was an absolute pace merchant, a pain in the arse against tiring defenders, with some sort of end product.

Would get a game for us now

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

4 goals in 391 minutes in the league after that first one - a goal every 97.75 minutes. A decent return.

By no means anywhere near the most technically proficient player but was an absolute pace merchant, a pain in the arse against tiring defenders, with some sort of end product.

With the amount of chances Nathan Paull, Noah Smith and even Storm Roux have had you would have thought he would get another but not to be I guess.

 

[Stuartmcateer]

4 goals in 391 minutes in the league after that first one - a goal every 97.75 minutes. A decent return.

By no means anywhere near the most technically proficient player but was an absolute pace merchant, a pain in the arse against tiring defenders, with some sort of end product.

I think the telling stat there is that he was only good enough for 391 minutes.

The problem with being a pace merchant without any technical proficiency is that once the pace goes then what is left?

 

[Stuartmcateer]

Would get a game for us now

That's a pretty low bar

 

[Big Al]

4 goals in 391 minutes in the league after that first one - a goal every 97.75 minutes. A decent return.

By no means anywhere near the most technically proficient player but was an absolute pace merchant, a pain in the arse against tiring defenders, with some sort of end product.

Was an exciting pain the arse who created havoc. Could use some of that this year

However he lacks step overs.

Was also pretty ineffective today against the young lads once he got near the box.

Shame to see locals not make it but just wasn’t good enough

 

[Meerkat]

That's a pretty low bar

Usain Bolt could get a run with us now.

 

[priorpeter]

I think the telling stat there is that he was only good enough for 391 minutes.

The problem with being a pace merchant without any technical proficiency is that once the pace goes then what is left?

The telling stat is that he was “only good enough” for 391 minutes but was averaging a goal every 90-odd during that time? Ok 🧐
Had he not gone to perth, I’d be willing to wager he’d still be in aliga somewhere. Moot point now though.

3-4 years down the track and he hasn’t slowed up so not sure the second point has any relevance right at this moment. Would have been a decent career a-league player; will do well in the national second tier when it finally gets off the ground (it’s coming, football Australia promised).

 

[Stuartmcateer]

The telling star is that he was “only good enough” for 391 minutes but was averaging a goal every 90-odd during that time? Ok 🧐

2 of those came in big wins against an average Wellington in 90+ minutes. It's not like he was changing games.

Had he not gone to perth, I’d be willing to wager he’d still be in aliga somewhere. Moot point now though.

Maybe. Maybe not. There aren't many players with just pace these days. Most rapid guys who stay around have better skills like a Jed drew type.

3-4 years down the track and he hasn’t slowed up so not sure the second point has any relevance right at this moment.

Maybe not impacting right now. He's still only 24. Give it another couple and he will lose that bit that makes him genuinely rapid compared to just a bit quick. Usually pace is the first thing to go and he will slow but isn't good enough to play A-league as an average paced player.

Would have been a decent career a-league player; will do well in the national second tier when it finally gets off the ground (it’s coming, football Australia promised).

I agree he will be ok in the second tier/NPL. He has found his level. I'm not holding my breath on anything more than the current end of season cup competition- too many years waiting. They have been floating the idea since the NasL days.

 

[priorpeter]

2 of those came in big wins against an average Wellington in 90+ minutes. It's not like he was changing games.

Only one of them was against Wellington. But, doesn’t matter where or when you score them. It’s not like he was stat-padding by scoring goals against aleague oppo. Wouldn’t mind a player now that could score against an average Wellington.

Maybe. Maybe not. There aren't many players with just pace these days. Most rapid guys who stay around have better skills like a Jed drew type.

I never rated Jed Drew that highly, technically. Marginally higher than Hatch, yes, but no higher than a McCarthy et al. James Bayliss was/is 20x the technician that Drew is, still couldn’t get an aleague gig (another story in there that we can leave for some other time).

Maybe not impacting right now. He's still only 24. Give it another couple and he will lose that bit that makes him genuinely rapid compared to just a bit quick. Usually pace is the first thing to go and he will slow but isn't good enough to play A-league as an average paced player.

Hence me saying “right at this moment”. I’m pretty well aware of how age catches up, but thanks. You’re right, he is still only 24, so has another 5+ years (maybe more, maybe less) before that starts to wane.

I'm not holding my breath on anything more than the current end of season cup competition- too many years waiting. They have been floating the idea since the NasL days.

But football Australia promised

 

[Stuartmcateer]

Wouldn’t mind a player now that could score against an average Wellington.

Wouldn't mind a player who could score against anyone.

But football Australia promised

I put as much stock in a football Australia promise as a politicians promise. When it happens then I will believe it.

 

[priorpeter]

Wouldn't mind a player who could score against anyone.

I put as much stock in a football Australia promise as a politicians promise. When it happens then I will believe it.

Yeah, that’s the joke

 

[Ironbark]

They were all great goals

De Lima is a quality player in the making