Mariners V Macarthur Cows ... Tawny Port RD

[marinermick]

Terrigal all age ? (that was a bit mean)

Terrigal already have an ex Mariner in the six role with Jacob Melling

 

[Insertnamehere]

Thing is Oli was the transition early in the season. Something has happened. Instead of hitting the diagonal ball hes taking it side to side.

 

[Wombat]

The Toukley flash

I always had him down as more of a Gosford Greased Lightning

The Kariong Express.

 

[shipwreck]

Yeh it's a bit of a double edged sword, Ollis movement is so good that he always drops back and presents himself. Problem is, the other dudes only see this and it's always the option they take, against the BULLs they were actively looking for other options in transition due to the absence of Ollie and we looked much faster

 

[style_cafe]

IIRC we had the same issue with Noel Spencer and Hutch. Monty tended to play box to box or drop into the backline and wasnt involved in transition.

Spencer had to go, he was an absolute handbrake on transition. Hutch got much better in the "Niz" role. Get the ball and recycle quickly, usually out wide we currently have real pace

Hutch then became the handbrake, continually recycling it back when forward options were open to him. When Hutch went Storm took over but he was more like an anchor than a handbrake...

 

[Ironbark]

The Cowpaddies didn't press us the way most teams have recently, and I doubt our midfield would have performed as it did against opposition that pressured with more intensity

 

[Ironbark]

Still, if Boz starts next game on the bench to ease him back in we'll get a better look at whether this tweak lays eggs.
If not I'm sure Ollie will come back in firing the way Urena did and will probably score

 

[Forum Phoenix]

The Cowpaddies didn't press us the way most teams have recently, and I doubt our midfield would have performed as it did against opposition that pressured with more intensity

Agreed. They did early but it fell away fast.

Imo Olly's transition speed has suffered in part from his taking responsibility, but mostly from him being our obvious key point of distribution. And when it's been Ballard or Steele in there they've been getting dispossessed - routinely caught out by the speed of other teams press. Only Niz has enough ability to hold possession as well in there most times.

But once we started moving the ball wide and fast, which again agreed was easier against the cows than others, it takes pressure of the central players also and creates space.

Movement is also always better when it's obvious where you should now run.

Was an impressive turn around by Monty and the boys. Gives me hope we can continue to go up gears and more than get our groove back. Was talking about how nice it would be to go on a run. But after Perth (despite the point) that just didn't look possible. But now... I think we're a decent chance.

 

[true believer]

Agreed. They did early but it fell away fast.

Imo Olly's transition speed has suffered in part from his taking responsibility, but mostly from him being our obvious key point of distribution. And when it's been Ballard or Steele in there they've been getting dispossessed - routinely caught out by the speed of other teams press. Only Niz has enough ability to hold possession as well in there most times.

But once we started moving the ball wide and fast, which again agreed was easier against the cows than others, it takes pressure of the central players also and creates space.

Movement is also always better when it's obvious were you should now run.

Was an impressive turn around by Monty and the boys. Gives me hope we can continue to go up gears and more than get our groove back. Was talking about how nice it would be to go on a run. But after Perth (despite the point) that just didn't look possible. But now... I think we're a decent chance.

it will be something. the divers will come with carl veart's dirty tricks book .
attempting to slow the game . big boys shin pads for this one.

 

[Melange]

Olli will be interesting. Was his lack of energy/stamina and hence slower distribution a result of him playing all the games in a tight schedule?

A lot of the passing back rather than early balls forward in the last few weeks was coming from our fullbacks rather than Olli.

I think the big difference is that Nis was the dominant mid coming out of defence. He is so good at receiving the ball at speed and turning forward, so even if being pressed he had more opportunity to pass forward to a player, who due to the quick ball movement would also have more space. Olli has regularly been pressed deep by the opposition in the last few games and only had the options of low risk passes sideways/backwards or high risk forward to players already under pressure.

 

[BrisRecky]

Terrigal all age ? (that was a bit mean)

I was pulling various legs BUT the kids did pick it up cause he wasnt on the park

 

[BrisRecky]

Just watched the replay and I’m now thoroughly convinced that Craig No-One is a atypical gutless arse who can give it out (multiple hits on Hatchy) but not take it (one mouthful of abuse off Mi Amigo Marco )

 

[Wombat]

Olli will be interesting. Was his lack of energy/stamina and hence slower distribution a result of him playing all the games in a tight schedule?

A lot of the passing back rather than early balls forward in the last few weeks was coming from our fullbacks rather than Olli.

I think the big difference is that Nis was the dominant mid coming out of defence. He is so good at receiving the ball at speed and turning forward, so even if being pressed he had more opportunity to pass forward to a player, who due to the quick ball movement would also have more space. Olli has regularly been pressed deep by the opposition in the last few games and only had the options of low risk passes sideways/backwards or high risk forward to players already under pressure.

100%. Faz and Dan and to a lesser extent Kye turn back under no pressure......you just have to cut off the passing lane like an under 7yo and they used to turn back to the keeper or play square. Soul destroying to watch tbh........Steele or Maxy used to just pass to the opposition until they put Niz in to solve the problem. Olli was not the problem and at time shone like a beacon because he was the ONLY player to take responsibility in the Mids. Hard to drop Maxi after a good game my head says Niz and Boz will both be better after the last game.

 

[Wombat]

Just watched the replay and I’m now thoroughly convinced that Craig No-One is a atypical gutless arse who can give it out (multiple hits on Hatchy) but not take it (one mouthful of abuse off Mi Amigo Marco )

Typical Bin Dipper.

 

[Ben10]

The Faz, Smith combination down the left has so much potential. They can interchange roles easily, they're both quick (smith is a bullet), can knock a pass and they only have a handful of games between them still. Exciting times

 

[Forum Phoenix]

The Faz, Smith combination down the left has so much potential. They can interchange roles easily, they're both quick (smith is a bullet), can knock a pass and they only have a handful of games between them still. Exciting times

Yeah that moronic commentator was talking about Smith not being the fastest - and I’m going are you crazy - guy is seriously quick. With him and Hatch on it was nice to have some real dangerous speed in the mids.

It makes all the difference in getting in behind and or giving our strikers a chance to make effective runs and receive the ball.

Hatch deserves credit from last game too. His touch is improving. Another year or two and will become a very good a league level footballer if he keeps going the way he’s going.

 

[turbo]

The Faz, Smith combination down the left has so much potential. They can interchange roles easily, they're both quick (smith is a bullet), can knock a pass and they only have a handful of games between them still. Exciting times

I was impressed at the maturity there from Smith. They started out competing for a spot that looked to be Smith's for the taking yet Smith looked to be in exile and on top of that they're room mates as he mentioned on one of the videos on socials. It would be easy to be bitter or frustrated with the situation but that doesnt seem to be the case at all, he's leaning into their combination and it's paying off.