Mariners Squad 2024/2025 ALM and ACL Elite

[priorpeter]

The other guy apparently based on unfound rumours, may be acquitted from his charges due to insufficient evidence.

We can’t exactly re-appoint him but is an interesting discussion about why do we need to ‘take a side’ when things like this happen in sport.

For some reason teams need to be seen to either back there player or cut them loose, however I don’t see why statements from clubs just stipulate we are aware of the situation and will let the investigation take its course.

I mean, that’s exactly what the club did.

Brief statement, player was issued a no-fault suspension by football Australia, no further comment.

 

[Big Al]

The other guy apparently based on unfound rumours, may be acquitted from his charges due to insufficient evidence.

We can’t exactly re-appoint him but is an interesting discussion about why do we need to ‘take a side’ when things like this happen in sport.

For some reason teams need to be seen to either back there player or cut them loose, however I don’t see why statements from clubs just stipulate we are aware of the situation and will let the investigation take its course.

Because sponsors don’t want to seen to associated with clubs who are associated with type of people.

In our case a small family club just can’t be associated with that for image purposes.

Might not be fair but that’s how it is.

 

[Big Dog]

I mean, that’s exactly what the club did.

Brief statement, player was issued a no-fault suspension by football Australia, no further comment.

This. And I spoke to people who said he was offered support behind the scenes despite what his agent was posting on his social media. It's run it's course though. We didn't take up the option to renew.

 

[marinermick]

Got any mail about how far away he is from making a decision?

Nope

 

[turbo]

In our case a small family club just can’t be associated with that for image purposes.

If there's enough for police to proceed with charges there's usually enough to say there's been some conduct we can't accept. By all means provide support to the player until found guilty but it would be a bad look to allow them to keep playing even if we were allowed to.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

"If there's enough for police to proceed with charges there's usually enough to say there's been some conduct we can't accept."

So if police charge you, that's enough.

So police become the arbiters of your future.

This does not sound like our Westminster system of justice to me.

 

[FFC Mariner]

I'd wait until the court date. If the charges are dismissed he is innocent. If he's found not guilty he's innocent.
That's how the law works.
Arguably the PR risk would be too much for the club either way and that's understandable.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

I'd wait until the court date. If the charges are dismissed he is innocent. If he's found not guilty he's innocent.
That's how the law works.
Arguably the PR risk would be too much for the club either way and that's understandable.

So another competing club supporter could take him to bed before the finals and scream rape and give their team an easier run.
Innocence is more important than PR.
Sick system if not.
If the charges are dismissed I want to see CCM offer him an competitive contract.

 

[FFC Mariner]

So another competing club supporter could take him to bed before the finals and scream rape and give their team an easier run.
Innocence is more important than PR.
Sick system if not.
If the charges are dismissed I want to see CCM offer him an competitive contract.

If his visa was for the length of his contract, its now expired. You would expect him to be chucked out regardless

 

[Meerkat]

So another competing club supporter could take him to bed before the finals and scream rape and give their team an easier run.
Innocence is more important than PR.
Sick system if not.
If the charges are dismissed I want to see CCM offer him a competitive contract.

I thought that well before he was charged, it was made known that he did not want to stay?
Why would we want to offer him anything, regardless of verdict?

 

[Ancient Mariner]

I thought that well before he was charged, it was made known that he did not want to stay?

I understood that to be trash talk by his agent taking a negotiating position.

If the charges are dropped, we may have a chance to get hold of a quality player looking to reset his career at a good price.

It will all come down to what he wants, his attitude, whether the Club wants to support one of their own, whether he is part of the group or whether he had become a dickhead.

I would not like to see him written off for something that may have had no basis in fact or been a vexatious attack.

 

[Meerkat]

I understood that to be trash talk by his agent taking a negotiating position.

If the charges are dropped, we may have a chance to get hold of a quality player looking to reset his career at a good price.

It will all come down to what he wants, his attitude, whether the Club wants to support one of their own, whether he is part of the group or whether he had become a dickhead.

I would not like to see him written off for something that may have had no basis in fact or been a vexatious attack.

I understand your view, but at the same time feel the trash talking agent may need to learn consequences, and on this occasion if it was trash talk, it’s bitten him in the arse.

Personally, I don’t see a way back. I will absolutely feel for him if he is genuinely innocent but truthfully we may never know that, regardless of verdict and I don’t believe his behaviour, or his agents, have helped him any.

Just my thoughts of course.

 

[Corsair]

I would not like to see him written off for something that may have had no basis in fact or been a vexatious attack.

These things are not usually so black and white, one way or another he's got himself into a situation where allegations have been made that were taken seriously by police. As a professional sportsman you should know better and if our players are not being coached in this regard they should be, either by the club or by the players agent.

This is not the first of our players to have these sort of allegations brought against them. Don't allow yourself to get into a situation in the first place where you're at risk.

The stalking charge is what really alarmed me, that needs to have been consistent over a period of time to be taken seriously.

 

[turbo]

So if police charge you, that's enough.

So police become the arbiters of your future.

They don’t tend to charge without some evidence. Enough to convict? Maybe not, but enough to be stood down (with pay) and stop representing the organisation in the interim? I think so.

 

[Wombat]

good signing, pretty pleased with it.
Expect good technical ability from Alfie, great age, adjustment should be smooth just as it was with big Eddy. Except their won’t be a fitness adjustment with Alfie.
Good signing.
I’d say he’s more Max’s replacement than he his Niz’s. But they do specifically say he can play higher up than DM… club also said “transfer agreed” maybe a small fee? Probably more a free transfer from Carlisle tbh, than him being released.

I see him as Max's replacement....and tbh he is an upgrade. But we are going to need some talent to replace Nizzy!

 

[Wombat]

So another competing club supporter could take him to bed before the finals and scream rape and give their team an easier run.
Innocence is more important than PR.
Sick system if not.
If the charges are dismissed I want to see CCM offer him an competitive contract.

Pretty sure he would not piss on us now.

 

[Spacks]

Stalking can involve threats or sexual innuendo and the stalker generally tries to intimidate or induce fear in the person they are stalking. The person being stalked may only realise they are being stalked once they identify a pattern of strange or suspicious incidents occurring, such as:

• phone calls
• text messages
• messages left on social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter etc.
• notes left on the their car
• strange or unwanted gifts left at their home
• an awareness that they are being followed
• being continually stared at or gestured to by another person.

I'm being criminally stalked by telemarketers.

 

[midfielder]

I think DP is Nizzy's replacement.... he needs to get stronger and fitter in the off season....

 

[pjennings]

I mean, that’s exactly what the club did.

Brief statement, player was issued a no-fault suspension by football Australia, no further comment.

I understood that to be trash talk by his agent taking a negotiating position.

If the charges are dropped, we may have a chance to get hold of a quality player looking to reset his career at a good price.

It will all come down to what he wants, his attitude, whether the Club wants to support one of their own, whether he is part of the group or whether he had become a dickhead.

I would not like to see him written off for something that may have had no basis in fact or been a vexatious attack.

I think the club and the FA acted as they should. I also don't think we wrote him off on the basis of the charge. He had made it abundantly clear he was moving on. If he is found to be innocent I wish him the best in his future football career. I just cannot see it being here.

 

[priorpeter]

He had made it abundantly clear he was moving on.

This.

No point wishing we made him an offer/exercised our option to renew. He was at a party a few months ago telling anyone who would listen that he couldn’t wait to leave the coast and return to Europe. Okie dokie.